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Old 06-28-2011, 02:52 PM   #1
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I dont like someone talking about something they know nothing about. Its a waste of time. This assclown admits he doesn't watch wrestling so why the fuck is he giving us his opinion? And even more so why is he starting threads about shit he doesn't care about?

The thread is titled 'What is this I hear about CM Punk?' but i dont understand how he heard it if he doesn't watch. Then he criticises the guy despite admitting lacking any knowledge of the situation. Am i mental that i find that retarded? Or are you guys all joined at the asshole?
The question is - why do you care so much? Let him be an "ass-clown", it won't make your day any worse or better.

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...the fact that they let him mention ROH and AJPW kinda surprised me
Was that the only time ROH has been mentioned clearly on WWE tv? I remember Matt Hardy yelling out something along the lines of "see you in ring of honor" before he was tackled by security.
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:44 PM   #2
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i thought hbpunk was permabanned
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:46 PM   #3
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:49 PM   #4
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I have honestly seen worse shit written here than iv ever written myself yet i get banned more times than triple h goes over, i dont really get it. (waiting for smart ass bs reply)
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:15 PM   #5
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ok, but that isn't what I said. I said I use to watch wrestling, I am familiar with what makes promos good. And I know what I like. I said I don't care for CM Punk, not that he isn't good, he obviously is. But I personally do not like his style.
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Yeah, that was a terrible analogy.
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Can't believe I'm about to say this but HBPunk does have a point.

He is a troll though and therefore his point won't be taken on board, especially against a guy that is "respected" on these forums.

Granted, he undermines his point with name-calling and over aggressiveness. But still, he does have a point.
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:24 PM   #8
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Can't believe I'm about to say this but HBPunk does have a point.

He is a troll though and therefore his point won't be taken on board, especially against a guy that is "respected" on these forums.

Granted, he undermines his point with name-calling and over aggressiveness. But still, he does have a point.
Exactly man. I do wish i was 'respected' by a bunch of people i dont know but i wont be losing sleep over it. I know im spot on but ill leave it. Iv been a victim of this kinda shit before but whatever. Im not a troll as they are fictional and if they were real i doubt they have internet access under a bridge. I shall move on
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:21 PM   #9
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Ok im done with this shite man, just to be an even bigger cunt you actually never said you used to watch wrestling, you said you were fucked if you know and you dont watch wrestling. Only reason i was at you is because Punk's promo was off the charts, regarded by every wrestler who tweeted as absolute gold and by everyone on this forum as gold too. Clearly you were trying to troll and i reacted to it. Whatever. Im sure you believe you were right so good job kiss and make up
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He doesn't really. His analogy assumes that BDC doesn't watch any wrestling, and thus doesn't know a good wrestler from a bad wrestler. The fact that he has over 62,000 posts on a wrestling forum would firmly suggest otherwise.

I wouldn't say BDC is respected any more than other mainstays like WWKD, Destor or Skippord. He's actually shown a lack of understanding of the forums by being dragged into it.
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:25 PM   #11
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He doesn't really. His analogy assumes that BDC doesn't watch any wrestling, and thus doesn't know a good wrestler from a bad wrestler. The fact that he has over 62,000 posts on a wrestling forum would firmly suggest otherwise.

I wouldn't say BDC is respected any more than other mainstays like WWKD, Destor or Skippord. He's actually shown a lack of understanding of the forums by being dragged into it.
Luckily you are bigger than all that and stayed away from it though
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Luckily you are bigger than all that and stayed away from it though
Oh absolutely. I was so enraged by your 'keyboard warrior' comment I couldn't walk away. It's ruined my whole night, or just kept me entertained for a little while. One of the two.

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Finally, they are presenting a feud I care about. The only other one I care about in WWE is The Rock vs. John Cena.
They've really thought outside the box with this one. I don't think I can remember a feud leading to a PPV that has been booked in this way.

It would be interesting to know Punk's actual contract situation and if this program is a last-ditch attempt to get him to agree to an extension, or if they're resigned to losing him and giving him a good send off. It's unusual they'd give someone leaving this much attention, so I'm hoping it's the former.
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:27 PM   #13
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He doesn't really. His analogy assumes that BDC doesn't watch any wrestling, and thus doesn't know a good wrestler from a bad wrestler. The fact that he has over 62,000 posts on a wrestling forum would firmly suggest otherwise.

I wouldn't say BDC is respected any more than other mainstays like WWKD, Destor or Skippord. He's actually shown a lack of understanding of the forums by being dragged into it.
What have I been dragged into? I know HBPunk's reputation around here and I'm bored as hell at work.
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What have I been dragged into? I know HBPunk's reputation around here and I'm bored as hell at work.
Maybe you should do some work then?
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:39 PM   #15
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Maybe you should do some work then?
My last day is Thursday, and there is very little work to be done around here. So I'm not very motivated.
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My last day is Thursday, and there is very little work to be done around here. So I'm not very motivated.
You should cut a CM Punk style shoot promo on your last day, sitting Indian style on top of your desk.
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BDC is stating an opinion based on limited knowledge. If HBPunk were to do that, what would the reaction be?

Waaaaaaaaaaait a minute.

Why am I dragging myself into this?

Forget I said anything.
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BDC is stating an opinion based on limited knowledge. If HBPunk were to do that, what would the reaction be?

Waaaaaaaaaaait a minute.

Why am I dragging myself into this?

Forget I said anything.
XL, limited knowledge of what? I have seen a good deal of CM Punk's career in WWE, and I don't like him. And I asked to be brought up to speed on the current story line or if it is a complete shoot. And by pulling teeth with HBPunk, I finally got a little bit of how CM Punk has been treated poorly for the past few months.
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XL, limited knowledge of what? I have seen a good deal of CM Punk's career in WWE, and I don't like him. And I asked to be brought up to speed on the current story line or if it is a complete shoot. And by pulling teeth with HBPunk, I finally got a little bit of how CM Punk has been treated poorly for the past few months.
Yeah i mentioned that halfway through this bitching session, nobody else was trying to help you out so ehh thanks?

PS - Football manager is acting so slow right now so thats why im here getting my dentist work done
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Yeah i mentioned that halfway through this bitching session, nobody else was trying to help you out so ehh thanks?

PS - Football manager is acting so slow right now so thats why im here getting my dentist work done
yeah...and I do recall a thread not to long ago about how he is a jobber to the stars.
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yeah...and I do recall a thread not to long ago about how he is a jobber to the stars.
Of course wins and losses dont matter in wrestling to a certain degree and he was jobbing at every PPV in sight but im guessing it just got to him big time when he saw utter tripe getting pushed ahead of him. Its the same complaint Chavo Guerrero had recently that led to his release. However Chavo cant touch Punk for charisma no matter how superb he is in the ring
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I found it interesting how the mic cuts off right when he's about to tell a story about Vince as if its something Vince doesn't want Punk to reveal and then completely cuts off all audio feed so Punk has no chance to say it.

He was able to trash everything up until that point of the promo.
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Leave HBPunk alone, guys.

Also, BDC has shit taste in wrestlers. He doesn't even care for Swagger. What a nincompoop that guy is.
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Leave HBPunk alone, guys.

Also, BDC has shit taste in wrestlers. He doesn't even care for Swagger. What a nincompoop that guy is.
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I do sort of agree with BDC about the shoot style promos, though. It's easy to just speak your mind outside of the confines of the "rules", but WWE (and professional wrestling in general) has created it own (cough) universe where things are just a certain way and we're happy to accept things as such. A REALLY good promo is one that is both pertinent to the story, but also works within the confines of the 'universe'.

As a nerdy internet fan, I did enjoy Punk's promo. It was poignant and it was delivered with a beautiful conviction, but let's not pretend that it took a tremendous amount of talent (which he definitely does have) to do it.
That is exactly my point. It is kind of whorish. Same as the way the Dudley's were what God would be if he was a heel back in ECW. It doesn't take a whole hell of a lot of talent to cuss out the audience and ask if a mother taught her daughter how to give head. But the point is made, and me liking or not liking punk as a performer is a different argument to this promo.
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I do sort of agree with BDC about the shoot style promos, though. It's easy to just speak your mind outside of the confines of the "rules", but WWE (and professional wrestling in general) has created it own (cough) universe where things are just a certain way and we're happy to accept things as such. A REALLY good promo is one that is both pertinent to the story, but also works within the confines of the 'universe'.

As a nerdy internet fan, I did enjoy Punk's promo. It was poignant and it was delivered with a beautiful conviction, but let's not pretend that it took a tremendous amount of talent (which he definitely does have) to do it.
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I do sort of agree with BDC about the shoot style promos, though. It's easy to just speak your mind outside of the confines of the "rules", but WWE (and professional wrestling in general) has created it own (cough) universe where things are just a certain way and we're happy to accept things as such. A REALLY good promo is one that is both pertinent to the story, but also works within the confines of the 'universe'.

As a nerdy internet fan, I did enjoy Punk's promo. It was poignant and it was delivered with a beautiful conviction, but let's not pretend that it took a tremendous amount of talent (which he definitely does have) to do it.
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I do sort of agree with BDC about the shoot style promos, though. It's easy to just speak your mind outside of the confines of the "rules", but WWE (and professional wrestling in general) has created it own (cough) universe where things are just a certain way and we're happy to accept things as such. A REALLY good promo is one that is both pertinent to the story, but also works within the confines of the 'universe'.

As a nerdy internet fan, I did enjoy Punk's promo. It was poignant and it was delivered with a beautiful conviction, but let's not pretend that it took a tremendous amount of talent (which he definitely does have) to do it.
A good amount of talent is needed or else you'd end up with a mess or ramble of a shoot similar to Vince Russo's shoots in late WCW or when TNA references WWE in random promos.

Punk's promo does manage to stay within the idea of the universe because the main focus of his complaints were that everyone just accepts whatever the universe dictates which explains why he never gets to be on weekly programs or appreciated a lot more. R-Truth actually has been attacking this idea a lot with his "little Jimmys" promos but never at the level of what Punk did last night.

The reaction of the crowd was also a bit special since they didn't start booing him as if they sort of agreed to what he was saying but didn't want to break the idea of the "universe" by cheering him.
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A good amount of talent is needed or else you'd end up with a mess or ramble of a shoot similar to Vince Russo's shoots in late WCW or when TNA references WWE in random promos.

Punk's promo does manage to stay within the idea of the universe because the main focus of his complaints were that everyone just accepts whatever the universe dictates which explains why he never gets to be on weekly programs or appreciated a lot more. R-Truth actually has been attacking this idea a lot with his "little Jimmys" promos but never at the level of what Punk did last night.

The reaction of the crowd was also a bit special since they didn't start booing him as if they sort of agreed to what he was saying but didn't want to break the idea of the "universe" by cheering him.
When you call all of the titles "imaginary", I don't think that's working within the confines of the universe. Again, I'm not trying to take anything away from Punk, as he is obviously a performer of many talents, but I think it's much easier to cut a promo like he did last night than it is to make something like a Kane/Edge program feel believable, for example.
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A good amount of talent is needed or else you'd end up with a mess or ramble of a shoot similar to Vince Russo's shoots in late WCW or when TNA references WWE in random promos.

Punk's promo does manage to stay within the idea of the universe because the main focus of his complaints were that everyone just accepts whatever the universe dictates which explains why he never gets to be on weekly programs or appreciated a lot more. R-Truth actually has been attacking this idea a lot with his "little Jimmys" promos but never at the level of what Punk did last night.

The reaction of the crowd was also a bit special since they didn't start booing him as if they sort of agreed to what he was saying but didn't want to break the idea of the "universe" by cheering him.
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When you call all of the titles "imaginary", I don't think that's working within the confines of the universe. Again, I'm not trying to take anything away from Punk, as he is obviously a performer of many talents, but I think it's much easier to cut a promo like he did last night than it is to make something like a Kane/Edge program feel believable, for example.
Thrilla gets it. It takes a certain amount of talent, pose, and public speaking ability to pull off that kind of promo. I'm not saying every wrestler could do it. But I am saying that it is cheap heat not unlike coming into the arena, and insulting the local sport teams, saying the local food specialty sucks, and that they are a bunch of what ever the common slur for the area is. But weaving all of that into a narrative of sorts for the promo. That is cheap.

Coming out and making the points in a narrative promo with the bullet points of Cena kisses ass, the Rock (also known as Dwayne Johnson) kisses ass, Hogan kisses ass, the future owner will suck and are stupid, and the belts being imaginary is cheap. He expertly wove those into his promo, but the bullet point are whorish.
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A good amount of talent is needed or else you'd end up with a mess or ramble of a shoot similar to Vince Russo's shoots in late WCW or when TNA references WWE in random promos.

Punk's promo does manage to stay within the idea of the universe because the main focus of his complaints were that everyone just accepts whatever the universe dictates which explains why he never gets to be on weekly programs or appreciated a lot more. R-Truth actually has been attacking this idea a lot with his "little Jimmys" promos but never at the level of what Punk did last night.

The reaction of the crowd was also a bit special since they didn't start booing him as if they sort of agreed to what he was saying but didn't want to break the idea of the "universe" by cheering him.
So with Punk, Truth and to a lesser degree Mark Henry are we seeing a change in WWE's strict PG rated, ignore all sense and logic philosophy?
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And DAMNiNATOR WTF?? Teddy Long must have some huge secret on Vince because that guy having a job is beyond a joke. He lost his appeal when he was just a manager of Jazz and that other bloke. Didnt the Undertaker kill him a while ago??
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And DAMNiNATOR WTF?? Teddy Long must have some huge secret on Vince because that guy having a job is beyond a joke. He lost his appeal when he was just a manager of Jazz and that other bloke. Didnt the Undertaker kill him a while ago??
Shhhhhh. Don't bring that guy back in here. He's clearly out of his fucking skull.
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And DAMNiNATOR WTF?? Teddy Long must have some huge secret on Vince because that guy having a job is beyond a joke. He lost his appeal when he was just a manager of Jazz and that other bloke. Didnt the Undertaker kill him a while ago??
Rodney Mack.
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100 points to you sir, he wasn't worth a google but my goodness he blew
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100 points to you sir, he wasn't worth a google but my goodness he blew
Don't forget, he also managed D'Lo Brown, Mark Henry, Rosey, Chris Nowinski and the "Reflection of Perfection" Mark Jindrak. And that's all from the cranium too, didn't need Google or Wiki.
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Don't forget, he also managed D'Lo Brown, Mark Henry, Rosey, Chris Nowinski and the "Reflection of Perfection" Mark Jindrak. And that's all from the cranium too, didn't need Google or Wiki.
I remember the black lads getting a helping hand but cant remember the last two though i admit i haven't really watched smackdown much since the brand split (watched every raw bar 4 though). Your knowledge of Teddy Long and his merry men is pretty fucking good. How many did anything of note in WWE tho? Mark Henry is the longest serving and he's been around so long, doing so little, that his credibility is almost non existent.
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Would definitely be down for some CM Punk in NJ.

This whole deal is pretty much awesome in every way. Heated angle. Punk gets time away from WWE / can go do what he wants / door is open for a return. Punk vs. Cena is always good. I'm all for anyone trashing Johnny Ace. Good stuff.
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