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Old 07-06-2011, 04:13 PM   #81
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Still holding out hope that WWE is working GLAAD about Punk leaving.
Now that's an interesting concept. I wonder what, if anything, they'd do about it. The only way to make that better would be if Punk cut a "unscripted" promo on GLAAD. Too bad WWE is PG
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Old 07-06-2011, 06:56 PM   #82
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Still holding out hope that WWE is working GLAAD about Punk leaving.
Yeah, 'cause that worked well last time.
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Old 07-06-2011, 07:22 PM   #83
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Alright, all of this Anti-Gay patrolling doesn't seem to be solving the problems that GLAAD would like to be solved and ultimately it's just creating new problems of censorship (Not to mention it's making people fucking hate them). The event wasn't even televised. It's starting to look more and more like a witch hunt everyday.
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Old 07-06-2011, 08:49 PM   #84
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Alright, all of this Anti-Gay patrolling doesn't seem to be solving the problems that GLAAD would like to be solved and ultimately it's just creating new problems of censorship (Not to mention it's making people fucking hate them). The event wasn't even televised. It's starting to look more and more like a witch hunt everyday.

That's b/c if GLAAD thinks this one incident will stop gay remarks, they are smoking some powerful shit. For every pro, there's a con. I understand the need to show tolerance for ppl who are different, but WWE has stepped over the ass kissing line. Every little incident is reported to GLAAD, even if they don't see it as an issue. So why do damage control in a situation that cannot be fixed? To me, it winds up looking more like censorship and over sensitivity than a constructive way to solve a problem. I highly doubt CM Punk calling some dude a homo is the most gay bashing remark ever uttered. If that's the case, GLAAD should never go near a locker room, or they could target dozens of ppl for no reason. Apparently joking or saying something sarcastically isn't acceptable anymore. I bet if he called the dude an asshole, no one would even think twice about it. Funny how supposed groups have a double standard when it comes to something as simple as having a sense of humor. I personally can't comprehend why it's even a big deal to begin with. GLAAD obviously didn't know the incident occured until WWE made them aware...
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Old 07-07-2011, 01:00 PM   #85
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Old 07-07-2011, 06:34 PM   #86
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I think the bigger picture is the number of people who spazz out over GLAAAAAAAAAD "getting their panties in a bunch."

People seem pretty offended by offense, and then tell them not to be offended.

It's awesome to watch, though.
i agree with everything here, except i don't find it nearly as entertaining to watch. action -> reaction -> re-reaction... gets old quick. especially when it all starts with such a cheap line.
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Old 07-07-2011, 06:51 PM   #87
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This was 3rd degree gay bashing. No big deal.
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This was 3rd degree gay bashing. No big deal.
Don't you mean "passive-aggressive gay bashing"?
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Old 07-09-2011, 12:03 PM   #90
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I find it hilarious that WWE, not GLAAD, seems to be the ones with their panties in a bunch. In almost every instance WWE actually alerted GLAAD of the supposed "slurs". Kind of like they want some sort of controversy to spin into an angle. Quite pathetic.
But that would require pointing the finger at wrestling, and wrestling fans refuse to do that.

Kinda like when Vince was potentially defrauding shareholders and the smarks all spazzed out because "Congress is interfering with pro wrestling!"

Or when Vince attacked the company that ahd LET him use their trademark for over a decade and the smarks all spazzed out because "Pandas are ruing wrestling!"

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Yeah, 'cause that worked well last time.
Oh, I don't know. It gave Vince his jollies. I'd say that's the whole purpose of half the shit he does.
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Old 07-09-2011, 12:27 PM   #91
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True. Sad. But true.
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Old 07-09-2011, 03:42 PM   #92
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But that would require pointing the finger at wrestling, and wrestling fans refuse to do that.
Yeah, but it seems to me that GLAAD would find someone to point a finger at for being insensitive to their cause. Every joke or sarcastic jab is put under the microscope and scrutinized. It's one thing to be tolerant to the GLAAD organization, it's another thing to essentially be controlled by them. Do you think WWE in the Attitude era would've been GLAAD's little bitch? Hell no.

WWE is to blame partially here for even making something out of nothing, but IMO what CM Punk said isn't a big deal.

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Kinda like when Vince was potentially defrauding shareholders and the smarks all spazzed out because "Congress is interfering with pro wrestling!"
If you're referring to the steroid issue, then Congress should single out more than just wrestling. All forms of sports or performance have that issue. That would be like getting upset at Congress for "interfering" with baseball or football. I do agree though that defrauding shareholders is wrong, but I'm sure with it being wrestling they were investing in, they knew the risks.

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Or when Vince attacked the company that ahd LET him use their trademark for over a decade and the smarks all spazzed out because "Pandas are ruing wrestling!"
Ppl always complain about this, that or the other. Sounds to me like you are "spazzing out" b/c you don't agree with so called "smarks". What's the big deal about fans here voicing an opinion? Maybe some ppl preferred the WWF name over the WWE name. I guess by that logic, when the other WWF said WWF(E) could no longer use their trademark, they were "spazzing out". You like that phrase alot, but you sure have your share of dislikes and complaints. Double standards by so called "intelligent ppl" is always a ironic thing to watch.
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Old 07-09-2011, 03:49 PM   #93
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Old 07-09-2011, 04:30 PM   #94
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I think Kane Knight just got owned
And there is my proof. Ya know, that thing where you pop up randomly in a convo in some thread just to diss someone. You said you have never ever done it. I thought you would then hold off for a week but i guess not. Cheers
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Old 07-09-2011, 04:32 PM   #95
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That's a friendly jab, you daft twit. I'm not dissing Kane Knight because I don't actually think he got owned.

It's called a joke
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Old 07-09-2011, 04:33 PM   #96
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Old 07-09-2011, 04:35 PM   #97
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Old 07-09-2011, 04:37 PM   #98
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So, lemme get this straight (heh):

Punk said something inappropriate, then he realized it was wrong and apologized for it.

What's the big deal?
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:02 PM   #99
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Internet has to shit all over it now.
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jesus didn't realize so many people hated GLAAD
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:18 AM   #101
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If GLAAD were to be in on the angle, and actively try to cast doubt on Punks situation. If they were part of the whole package - do you think it would be a wise move for them, to sort of show that we aren't just whiny oversensitive people, but we're actually cool and "hip"

I think it would be cool - I also think it highly unlikely
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So, lemme get this straight (heh):

Punk said something inappropriate, then he realized it was wrong and apologized for it.

What's the big deal?
We have to hate on GLAAD's totally legitimate gripes (read: over-sensitive reaction if you're on that side of the argument) regarding the use of homophobic slurs. Or, you can hate on WWE for being over sensitive and "shopping" themselves to GLAAD.

It's your choice.

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Old 07-12-2011, 11:26 AM   #104
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If you're referring to the steroid issue, then Congress should single out more than just wrestling. All forms of sports or performance have that issue. That would be like getting upset at Congress for "interfering" with baseball or football. I do agree though that defrauding shareholders is wrong, but I'm sure with it being wrestling they were investing in, they knew the risks.
Steroids were only part of the issue, and while it's nice to say "WWE shouldn't be singled out" they were singled out not for steroids, but for potential fraud where one of the elements was steroids.

If you phrase it dishonestly, you've got a point.

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What's the big deal about fans here voicing an opinion?
Good job knocking down that thurr strawman, son. Nobody's saying voicing an opinion is wrong. Blaming World Wilfdlife Federation ( ) for not wanting to be associated with someone who was actively pissing on them, however, is just plain retarded. Especially when that someone is receiving the rights to use said mark predominantly through good will.

The "big deal" has nothing to do with people "voicing an opinion," but more power to you if you were just out to lie.
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Old 07-12-2011, 11:38 AM   #105
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Or, you can hate on WWE for being over sensitive and "shopping" themselves to GLAAD.
What really strikes me as interesting here is that a lot of the people bitching about this are the ones who frequently hoist the "WWE has the right to make money!" Canard. Which I'm not sure anyone really thinks is false, mind. Nobody really expects WWE to be an NPO.

Yet the main reason WWE does this is that they like money. Why, they even like the money of faggots, and take steps to keep it "coming."

The only thing that seems to be a problem here is that the appeasement is not going specifically to whiny little faggots who think WWE shouldn't be apologetic.

Queers are big money. Who else is going to buy "Suck it" shirts, except for five year olds and the mentally handicapped? And of them, only homos have their own disposable income.

That's why Vince never apolgised for saying "nigga." Niggers....Sorry, NiggAs, don't have any money.
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Steroids were only part of the issue, and while it's nice to say "WWE shouldn't be singled out" they were singled out not for steroids, but for potential fraud where one of the elements was steroids.

If you phrase it dishonestly, you've got a point.
I don't think I phrased anything dishonestly. I simply don't agree with your POV on this issue. And I said "WWE shouldn't be singled out" b/c the major arguement Congress had with WWE was, you guessed it STEROIDS. Anytime Congress targets WWE, they make a public spectacle of saying steroid and drug abuse is rampant. That would be a valid stance to take if every other sport was held to the same standard. You very seldom see Congress target other sports where steroid issues are just as relevant. I highly doubt "potential fraud" was even a major issue here, considering the overall reason given for Congress inquest into WWE was STEROIDS. How is WWE "defrauding" anyone, when public knowledge of wrestling and steroids have been avalible since the early 90's??? But then again, no one ever said they were gonna stop investing in WWE or stop watching it b/c steroids were a factor. That would be like saying someone was gonna stop watching football b/c they were "defrauding" potential investors and fans when their athletes use steroids.

I find it interesting you accuse me of dishonestly making points, when all you do is twist facts to fit whatever opinion you have. You talk as though you have some insider knowledge on the subject, when you are really speculating just like anyone else here.



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Good job knocking down that thurr strawman, son. Nobody's saying voicing an opinion is wrong. Blaming World Wilfdlife Federation ( ) for not wanting to be associated with someone who was actively pissing on them, however, is just plain retarded. Especially when that someone is receiving the rights to use said mark predominantly through good will.

The "big deal" has nothing to do with people "voicing an opinion," but more power to you if you were just out to lie.
The last I checked, stating an opinion isn't knocking down anything. WWE pissing on WWF? Again, I have to disagree. At the time, WWF and WWF(E) were on good terms until the trademark issue came up. Telling WWE they must change a name they've used for years would tend to create animosity. I do agree WWE took shots at WWF, but it's not as though WWE had an agenda and purposely tried to put them out of business. I again question your so called "insider info" which you tend to imply with your responses. Nothing more than speculation, yet I'm out to lie? Seems to me that misinformation is another form of lying. Only I don't claim to know details about subjects I'm not directly involved with. You clearly don't work for World Wildlife Federation or WWE, so how would you know? Assuming you know something and stating it as fact is arrogant and ignorant at the same time. Always ironic to see some moron post misinformation and claim it as fact when there is no basis for it. As far as I can tell, you have shown no facts to support your claims and is speculative of situations you know nothing about...
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:26 PM   #107
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:27 PM   #108
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Not to imply you don't have good things to say (I honestly don't know you at all), it's just hard to "get" your content when it's 15 lines long without some kind of spacing.
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Old 07-13-2011, 01:51 PM   #109
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No trouble with reading the words. I just find it difficult to take anything he says seriously.
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Old 07-13-2011, 02:35 PM   #110
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No trouble with reading the words. I just find it difficult to take anything he says seriously.
As opposed to Kane Knight or any other so called "expert" here? Yet another person who can't deal with difference of opinion. There seem to be alot of ppl on the wrestling forums who are narrow minded like that. I post my opinion and back up my points with logic(or at least as logical as one can be on a "wrestling forum"). Then, some know it all jackass replies with nuggets of wisdom like this...
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Old 07-13-2011, 08:35 PM   #111
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No trouble with reading the words. I just find it difficult to take anything he says seriously.
My eyes are pretty awful. Just looks like a blob of yellow, like he peed on the page.

So I'm not missing much, then?
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Old 07-13-2011, 10:55 PM   #112
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My eyes are pretty awful. Just looks like a blob of yellow, like he peed on the page.

So I'm not missing much, then?
Seriously, you must never read a book, if you can't concentrate on two paragraphs
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:37 PM   #113
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Right, because reading normal spaced words on a page is the same as reading your mass of nonsense on a computer screen
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This from the guy who reads "Cody Rhodes is awesome" as "Cody Rhodes is the next Stone Cold Steve Austin." Get the fuck outta here.
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When did he get this new look?

Kinda looks like Jesse Ventura.
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This from the guy who reads "Cody Rhodes is awesome" as "Cody Rhodes is the next Stone Cold Steve Austin." Get the fuck outta here.
Funny I never called Cody the next Austin or Rock. I said that until he can deliver on the mic, like Austin and Rock did, he'll never be a top superstar. Big difference there pal
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