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Old 08-09-2011, 12:02 PM   #81
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Old 08-09-2011, 01:36 PM   #83
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Christian should defeat every WWE superstar in one night via Killswitch

only then can I take him seriously as World Champion
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Old 08-10-2011, 05:39 AM   #86
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"Beatability" is also great from a marketing point of view. If people don't think your heel champion can be defeated by the babyface you are building up, then they will won't invest interest in the product. That's why The Miz made such a great heel champion earlier this year. Also, I would argue that this why Triple H made such a shitty heel champion in 2003 (note: I'm not saying shitty performer). He just beat everybody. Invest your time in Booker T? Rob Van Dam? Kane? Don't waste your time -- Triple H is the best; but you're meant to boo him. Although, I will say that it made it awesome when Chris Benoit finally did make Triple H tap-out in the main event of WrestleMania XX.

But if Christian defeated Randy Orton cleanly, he just wouldn't be a heel. He'd be the babyface in this feud. He'd have valid points, and he'd be the better wrestler. The intrigue and Christian's heel character itself comes from his doubt in himself -- despite him constantly claiming that he can beat Orton. I also guarantee that when Christian turns babyface again, he'll simply realise that he doesn't need to cheat to be one of the best, and he'll start dominating people with his abilities again, not only mid-match, but as a closer, as well.

Christian's not a monster heel, and it's fair enough you want to see him as a monster heel that uses his abilities to destroy people. Something like that might work for Daniel Bryan when he turns. But Captain Charisma's character evolution has made perfect sense. The fans did vote Orton to be his opponent five days after a hellacious Ladder Match (giving him a reason to hate the people), and he has had legitimate grips with Orton's victories over him (and he's been a manipulative little cunt about them).

Sorry to break it to you, though: Orton is winning this feud. Don't bitch when the title change happens, because it's good business. Orton got "cheated" out of his World Title, and he has to jump through Christian's hoops to get it back. That's the storyline this feud will take, and the storyline it should take. Otherwise you're just turning Christian into Triple H 2.0. Eventually people need to be rewarded by investing in Christian's beatability. I don't think SummerSlam is the right time for that, for the record -- but it wouldn't surprise me. The WWE may want an early pay-off. I do think that Christian escaping with the title in a weasel-like method after Mark Henry and Sheamus get involved (as someone suggested) would make perfect sense, though, and not scare people away from SmackDown!. In fact, I think it would generate an interesting four-way feud.
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I'd kinda like the fued to be puton the back-burner post-SummerSlam, Have Christian retain through some shenanigans and move on to a short programme with another guy whilst Orton has to "earn another shot". Then come back to it at Hell In A Cell.

They need to do something to elongate the fued if they wish to keep it going.
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I agree with Noid on the 'beatability' factor. It's like the opposite of "Cena Wins".
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I'd kinda like the fued to be puton the back-burner post-SummerSlam, Have Christian retain through some shenanigans and move on to a short programme with another guy whilst Orton has to "earn another shot". Then come back to it at Hell In A Cell.

They need to do something to elongate the fued if they wish to keep it going.
Originally I was thinking Sheamus vs. Christian, but since Night of Champions features all the championships -- they really like to squeeze big names all over the place. The Fatal 4-Way concept of Christian defending against Sheamus, Henry & Orton makes perfect sense. Christian can continue to claim that Teddy Long is against him; Sheamus can get his crack as a main event face; Henry can get his World Title shot; and Orton stays on PPV without being relegated to an IC Title match against Cody Rhodes, or something.

Christian can retain there, and that would be quite the solid title reign by the time that Hell in a Cell rocks around. Orton wins there with a punt, and Christian loses the World Heavyweight Title and is stretchered off. Orton gets your standard fare title reign while Christian sells the punt.
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I'd be happy with that...as long as Christian destroys all 3 of his opponents and pins them simultaneously.
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In my perfect world, it would be Christian helping Chris Jericho win the World Heavyweight Title. Vitamin C not re-united, but as separate entities that just happen to both hate Randy Orton (and each other).

Tell me that Chris Jericho defending the World Heavyweight Title against Randy Orton and Christian at Survivor Series would not be an interesting match.
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