THIS JUST IN - BYE, BYE, STEINER!!!

[Bad Company]

I've always likes Steiner
Good luck for him in the future.

[Marc the Smark]

Originally Posted by badassmofo I've always likes Steiner Good luck for him in the future.

Yes, I hope he does well when he's stocking shelves at Stop 'n' Shop.

[spd10000]

Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott Yes, I hope he does well when he's stocking shelves at Stop 'n' Shop.

Careful Red Hot Scott. These people won't like that.

[Boondock Saint]

Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott Yes, I hope he does well when he's stocking shelves at Stop 'n' Shop.

That is a pretty funny image

[Marc the Smark]

Customer: Pardon me sir, but...

Scott Steiner: What do you want lady?

Customer: Well, um, the date on the milk says sell by May 2nd. Today's the 5th.

Scott Steiner: Yeah, so?

Customer: So??? So it's expired?

Scott Steiner: Hey lady, I don't care about the milk. I only care about my freaks and my peaks.

Customer: Your what? Young man, I want to speak with your manager.

Scott Steiner: My manager? (Momentarily confused) I never had a manager.. Uh, I mean, look sweetie, he ain't here right now.

Customer: Well I'm very dissatisfied. The milk's expired, and you're being very rude. Now I want to talk to....

Steiner picks her up and gives her a belly-to-belly suplex.

Scott Steiner: Take that ya bitch. Yeah, clean up. Aisle 5!

[Batsu]

oh yeah, didn't they have some Eddie/Chavo feud back when Chavo was still a "WCW" brand wrestler? Or maybe I'm just letting my imagination get away with me. I know he went to Tough Enough afterward...

[spd10000]

Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott Customer: Pardon me sir, but... Scott Steiner: What do you want lady? Customer: Well, um, the date on the milk says sell by May 2nd. Today's the 5th. Scott Steiner: Yeah, so? Customer: So??? So it's expired? Scott Steiner: Hey lady, I don't care about the milk. I only care about my freaks and my peaks. Customer: Your what? Young man, I want to speak with your manager. Scott Steiner: My manager? (Momentarily confused) I never had a manager.. Uh, I mean, look sweetie, he ain't here right now. Customer: Well I'm very dissatisfied. The milk's expired, and you're being very rude. Now I want to talk to.... Steiner picks her up and gives her a belly-to-belly suplex. Scott Steiner: Take that ya bitch. Yeah, clean up. Aisle 5!

[Gone Mad]

Steiner is very fragile,he is done. Maybe a role manager-wise, just as long as he doesn't take too much time away from the younger talents, like a few ppl on Smackdown tend to do... *coughcough*takerhollybradshaw*coughcough*

[ItsTimeForAChange]

I never had anything against Steiner. He and Rick were the shit back in the day.

He should definetly have been utilitzed for SmackDown! as others have said, since its sinking fast, IMO. True, he wouldn't be able to have a long run, but he could have atleast been brought back to put a young wrestler over.

[6to1]

Originally Posted by Rob Off the top of my head, I think Scott Steiner has done 60 minute broadways. For the record, when was the last time Bret Hart and Ric Flair did that? Again, definately not saying Steiner is in their league but you can't compare 10 years ago to today. I'll tell you for an absolute fact right now that Scott Steiner has more ability than Bret Hart in the ring right now.

i think like so many other former wcw people steiner was missused in the wwe. his wrestling days were almost over what they should have done was make him super part time heel maby bodyguard to evalution, kind of like batasta is doing now, but no vince had to make him tests bitch

[Ferocious]

Steiner could be used brilliantly in the WWE selling hotdogs like Rhyno and Dreamer

[Wondermouse]

Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott Heh. Yeah, Flair and Bret are both legends. I wouldn't put Steiner in the same category.

You should. Not only was he the better half of one of a great tag team, at the end of WCW, he was a truly great, great heel. He had more talent in him than most of the people that will be considered legends in 10 years such as Austin (Stone Cold, Stunning Steve, it doesn't matter - Scott was better) and Rock (Sorry, RB). Promoters were trying for years to get him to cut Rick and become a single superstar. I'd say if he hadn't injured himself in '94, he'd be one of the guys people said revolutionized pro wrestling.

Steiner was one of the guys who really got gimped by WWE when they came in. Others were Raven, Booker, and DDP. Look at that: Raven, Booker, DDP, Scott Steiner. Throw in Jeff Jarrett and you've got pretty much the whole main event scene of WCW near the end. And where are they? Steiner's gone, Raven's in the world title scene in TNA, Booker's jobbing to Undertaker, and DDP jobbed to Undertaker's wife.

And really, Steiner's too fragile? What about Triple H?

[Dave Youell]

He made his money, i'm dam sure he made his money and to be fair his WWE stink was a joke anyways. Just by looking at both his 'main event' matches with HHH would tell you that he's not the guy he used to be.

Hope everything turn out ok for him, but I in no way feel sorry for him. He waited until his time warner contract expired before he went to the WWE, the guy knew what he was doing and if he was happy to sit back get paid and let the time warner contract expire, i'm sure he's quite happy to do the same with his current contract

[Goldbird]

Well. all i got to say is that...

Steiner WAS a steroids-****ed idiot who couldnt balance himself on the turnbuckle without falling flat on his face.

However, i had been impressed by steiner's performance in year 2003 in his feud with HHH. SO now, since wwe does not want to make use of such a talent, i just hope that he goes to TWA or somewhere in Japan, instead of rotting in WWE and selling hotdogs.

[Wondermouse]

Rick's a booker in Japan, I believe, and could go over there.

I don't think he'd fit in TNA, as they're trying to go to more of a family friendly atmosphere.

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by Goldbird Well. all i got to say is that... Steiner WAS a steroids-****ed idiot who couldnt balance himself on the turnbuckle without falling flat on his face. However, i had been impressed by steiner's performance in year 2003 in his feud with HHH. .

How bad was he in WCW that he impressed by those matches?
Granted I never saw him in WCW, but he looked like a lumbering old man v HHH, and that in itself is a mean trick!

[HankScorpio]

See ya 'Roido

[SuperSlim]

it kinda sucks.

I think that excuse that they couldn't use him for a long run is nothin more than complete B.S.

Look at the rosters on both shows. How many folks do they really use for long push runs? Triple H... ummmm man I'm sure there are a couple more but that's it.

Fact is the guy was established. A former world champion (in WCW) and part of what has to be one of the greatest tag teams ever created in wrestling history The Steiner Brothers. I mean the guy has been in there for more years than a lot of the guys they have now.

OK I have somehtin now. The Rock. Sure the guy is entertaining but when does he compete? WM and that's about it. Long term push? None at all. Just one month and poof he's gone. Yet they stil keep him signed. Why? Cause he is established and can put people over. Steiner can do that also except on a more regular basis than The Rock. I do think it's messed up that they take him out just cause of that.

In one way it's good to see him leave but on many other levels he could have been used in a mighty way but they have also dropped the ball with him.

[Pepsi Man]

Originally Posted by Batsu oh yeah, didn't they have some Eddie/Chavo feud back when Chavo was still a "WCW" brand wrestler? Or maybe I'm just letting my imagination get away with me. I know he went to Tough Enough afterward...

While the WCW vs. WWF war was going on, Eddie was away following his alcohol/drug abuse earlier in the year and the previous year. Eddie did not return until April of 2002, long after the Invasion angle had ended.

However, back in WCW, Eddie and Chavo did feud after Eddie turned heel, with Chavo wanting Eddie to "be fair and play by the rules" and Eddie trying to teach Chavo how to "Cheat 2 Win".

[Marc the Smark]

Bye, Bye Steiner!

He's "established," huh? How many people who watch wrestling have actually noticed he's gone? I'm sure a lot of the fans have already forgotten about him, and who can really blame them? It's not like there's much that's worth remembering.

[Wondermouse]

Right, because Scott Steiner was only one of the most recognizable names in wrestling for about 10 years.

Besides, even if they didn't remember him, WWE could make them remember, detailing his accomplishments, and showing old clips of him competing to build up his return, and making swank video packages.

And then you job him to John Cena, Rey Mysterio, RVD, or any face you want to get over. It doesn't have to be a 60 minute broadway or anything, just make it like 6-10 minutes, and the guy'll be over.

[Marc the Smark]

Originally Posted by Wondermouse Right, because Scott Steiner was only one of the most recognizable names in wrestling for about 10 years.

Where? In the Wicked Crappy Wrestling company?!? Wow! And what did he accomplish in the WWE? Ummmm.... oh, that's right, NOTHING! I can see what people are saying about jobbing him to the Superstars, but why let him torture us? I'd rather he just go away.

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott Where? In the Wicked Crappy Wrestling company?!? Wow! And what did he accomplish in the WWE? Ummmm.... oh, that's right, NOTHING! I can see what people are saying about jobbing him to the Superstars, but why let him torture us? I'd rather he just go away.

He should fu*k off with velocity
(not the show)

[Pepsi Man]

Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott Where? In the Wicked Crappy Wrestling company?!? Wow! And what did he accomplish in the WWE? Ummmm.... oh, that's right, NOTHING! I can see what people are saying about jobbing him to the Superstars, but why let him torture us? I'd rather he just go away.

When did you start watching pro wrestling?

[Wondermouse]

Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott Where? In the Wicked Crappy Wrestling company?!? Wow! And what did he accomplish in the WWE? Ummmm.... oh, that's right, NOTHING! I can see what people are saying about jobbing him to the Superstars, but why let him torture us? I'd rather he just go away.

Well, let's see...

1) He's held the tag titles around Edge and Benoit 6 times
2) He's held the tag titles around Rico and Charlie twice
3) He's held the world title around Chris Benoit once.

[Marc the Smark]

Originally Posted by Pepsi Man When did you start watching pro wrestling?

1984.

[Pepsi Man]

Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott 1984.

Did you have like a memory lapse or something then?

[Marc the Smark]

Originally Posted by Pepsi Man Did you have like a memory lapse or something then?

What did he ever accomplish in the WWE?

[PureHatred]

Are you seriously saying that he's not established because most of his succes came in the WCW? Seriously?

[Wondermouse]

Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott What did he ever accomplish in the WWE?

He won the tag belts twice in WWE.

[Pepsi Man]

He was part of THE tag team of the ****ing early 90s.

[Wondermouse]

Yeah. I'd say the Steiners were the tag team of the 90s... though I'd say Harlem Heat are up there.

[Marc the Smark]

Originally Posted by PureHatred Are you seriously saying that he's not established because most of his succes came in the WCW? Seriously?

Stop being belligerent. I'm saying he was established in the WCW, and that I think his most recent run in the WWE was just awful.

[Marc the Smark]

Originally Posted by Pepsi Man He was part of THE tag team of the ****ing early 90s.

That's your opinion, and you're certainly entitled to it. He may have been good at one time, but his most recent run in the WWE was, in my opinion, awful.

[Wondermouse]

Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott Stop being belligerent. I'm saying he was established in the WCW, and that I think his most recent run in the WWE was just awful.

You're the one that's being cryptic.

[Marc the Smark]

Originally Posted by Wondermouse You're the one that's being cryptic.

How so? I think I'm stating my opinion quite clearly. He may have been good in the WCW, or even when he was with his brother in the old WWF, but that was then. His most recent run in the WWE, in my opinion, was awful.

[PureHatred]

When Wondermouse said that Steiner was a recognized, established name, this was your respnse:

Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott Where? In the Wicked Crappy Wrestling company?!? Wow! And what did he accomplish in the WWE? Ummmm.... oh, that's right, NOTHING! I can see what people are saying about jobbing him to the Superstars, but why let him torture us? I'd rather he just go away.

Basically you dismissed out of hand Steiner's name value because his last run in the WWE was lousy. Then, Pepsi Man called you on that and this was your response:

Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott What did he ever accomplish in the WWE?

Again, dismissing entirely anything Steiner accomplished anywhere else. And thus, any name value he has.

You clearly have no legit argument for the idea that Steiner is a name in the business. So, whatever explanation you give for not liking Scott Steiner basically boils down to you not liking his ringwork the last time he was in WWE. Fine. But this is sports entertainment. Scott Steiner was and still is a well known name in wrestling and that is a valuable commodity. (if he does get released just watch how quickly TNA or a Japanese fed snathes him up)Even a 2 month long feud where he puts someone like Mark Jindrak or Orlando Jordan over would give guys like them a nice boost in their careers. As I've said, releasing him without even making an attempt to put Steiner to use, especially when you have a show in dire need of heels, is a misuse of the WWE's assets.

But god forbid, Scott Steiner is on your TV.

[Wondermouse]

What he said.

[Sephiroth]

Bye, bye

[Rob]

Originally Posted by shock&awe oh, now i understand. you are on crack.

Okay Bret Hart and Ric Flair didn't use the same limited movesets for 15 years then?

Either they did or they didn't dude. No point in calling me a dick over it now is there?

Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott Heh. Yeah, Flair and Bret are both legends. I wouldn't put Steiner in the same category.

Neither would I and if you read what I wrote, I never did say he was. What I said was you can't use the arguement of limited movesets to say people suck when Flair and Hart did it for 15 years and they are bonafide greats.

I believe Scott Steiner as a heel on Smackdown is marketable. Especially when they lack star power on that brand. Now if you disagree then that's fine. It's only an opinion.

Yeah he can't work well anymore. He can't work long matches. Then how about this for an idea... DON'T MAKE HIM WORK LONG MATCHES!!! Why people make pro wrestling out to be more complicated than brain surgery is mind blowing. Play to peoples strong points. It is a work after all.