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View Poll Results: If you had to make the call, who is the Hall of Famer that closes the induction ceremony? | |||
Bruno Sammartino |
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40 | 64.52% |
Mick Foley |
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22 | 35.48% |
Voters: 62. You must log in or register to vote on this poll. |
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#81 | |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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#82 |
OLD SCHOOL FAN
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#83 | |
Hey Mister!
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The man wasn't willing to sell out. It's not sad, it's admirable. |
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#84 |
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Principles? He was just pissed that his son sucked balls and Vince shitcanned him. He only could claim the moral righteousness once WWE went into the Attitude Era. Was WWE all that offensive when Doink the Clown was running around?
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#85 |
His name is Jeff Harvey
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Can't wait for Vince to screw Bruno at the HOF which will ultimately lead to Bruno vs. Vince at WrestleMania XXX
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#86 |
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Really hope WrestleMania XXX revolved around the return of another Attitude era superstar -- Val Venis.
The reaction by Noid would be priceless. |
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#87 |
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Dunno, find it hard to believe that 70s regional wwwf with Bruno on top made more money than worldwide wrestling promotional behemoth with Foley in the main event.
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#88 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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Still that wasn't just Foley as Bruno was the only main star of the era. You'd have to split that inflation starved money around to all the other main eventers of the era too.
Money was worth way more in the 70s too. |
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#89 |
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Foley probably made more money for Vince, even if adjusted for inflation, if you think about all the things Bruno didn't have: book deals, insane amount of merchandise, DVDs, VHSs, etc.
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#90 |
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Bruno wasn't wrestling himself either and I'm pretty sure he wasn't even the biggest draw of that era. And like James Steele pointed out, Foley shifted a hell of a lot more merchandise, globally, not in one territory.
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#91 |
RIP SABU
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Bruno needs to be the headline guy this year. Did everyone not see in the induction vid about him that he sold out 182 appearances over 8 fucking years @ MSG? No offense to Long Island’s favorite son, Mrs. Foley’s Baby Boy, but Sammartino should headline this year, no question about it.
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#92 |
RIP SABU
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Also, he won the title in barely more time than it took Daniel Bryan to beat Show for the title in 2011 (Bryan won it in 45 seconds; Sammartino won the WWWF title in 48 in his first title match with the original “Nature Boy” Buddy Rogers).
AND...when he debuted in Pittsburgh, PA in late 1959 his first match took only a second longer than Daniel Bryan’s title defense vs. Sheamus @ WM XXVIII, winning in 19 seconds. ![]() |
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#93 |
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People, Bruno is not going to accept being inducted unless they guarantee he'll headline.
You think he's gonna see that Austin, Hogan, HBK and Bret all headlined, and he's gonna be like "I'm just going to be happy to be there, I don't care where I'm placed"? Enough with this. |
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#94 |
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Bruno could never get a sock over
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RIP SABU
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#97 |
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It's also correct, Bruno was a huge name way back when but also in a much smaller enviroment, he sold out MSG a bunch of times but then the Von Erichs sold out their local arena a bunch of times as well, pretty sure Ric Flair has a decent sell out record in the Carolinas while we're at it.
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#99 |
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And nobodies really disputing the fact that Bruno is going to be the headliner here, people are just pointing out that Foley would have been a legitimate candidate if it was up for debate.
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#100 |
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If you go that route (the Eric Bischoff "Mick Foley is a glorified stuntman" route), you can also say Bruno never had to wrestle in barbwire matches, never had to go through tables, never had to use thumbtacks, all in order to get over.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I've seen some of Bruno's work, and to me it's boring as fuck, but he still did a lot and deserves to headline the HOF. |
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#101 | |
RIP SABU
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#102 |
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You're spouting them like they add legitimacy to your 'argument', I guess it's better than another fucking meme though.
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#103 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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There is no WWF without Bruno. It's not open to debate and shouldn't be open to debate. Anybody thinking Foley deserves it is simply in the mindset that "anything that happened before I was alive/started watching doesn't count." That mindset is totally warped.
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#104 |
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I think you're giving way to much credit to one guy there.
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#105 |
They're eating the dogs..
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Foley is the correct answer. Other than beth82 and possibly DLVH who is now working at a Kabuki bar in Tokyo, would you rather watch a Foley match or Sammartino roll around the mat for 30 mins? Again, we know what Beth's answer will be!
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#106 |
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Who are the crowd at the Hall of Fame ceremony going to cheer for more? Some old fruit or the guy that says "It's so good to be back... right here, at MADISON SQUARE GARDEN!"
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#107 |
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They're gonna cheer more for the guy who says "Oatmeal and Hard Work!"
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#108 |
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It depends on what Trish is wearing.
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#109 |
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The WWWF was a regional territory when Bruno was champ and primarily operated out of the New York area, and due to the huge Italian population Bruno was made champ. You don't let a guy hold the belt for that long if he isn't constantly bringing in fans.
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Mr. Nice Guy
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#111 |
MVP Mark
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Thats not really selling out. It's, if we don't work it out this year never comeback. He negotiated his price and got what he deserved.
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#112 | |
OLD SCHOOL FAN
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too many here have that particular mindset. |
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#113 |
Hey Mister!
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#114 |
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Just because you want to fuck James Dean's corpse doesn't mean we think anything that happened before we were born doesn't matter. The fact of the matter is Mick Foley is a much much bigger star across the world than Bruno Sammartino. Foley basically created the whole wrestling book market that has exploded over the past decade. He didn't need 8 years with the belt and a monster push either. Mick Foley is arguably the greatest success story in the history of pro wrestling. NOTHING about Mick Foley says he should have obtained everything he did except his ability to connect with audiences around the world through his sacrifices in the ring, the emotion of his promos, or his ability to tell a story with all of it. He is one of the most legitimately beloved superstars of all time.
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#116 |
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If it wasn't in New York and if it wasn't for the fact Triple H bent over backwards to coddle this stubborn son of a bitch, there wouldn't be any question that Mick Foley would headline the class.
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#117 |
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Look at the fame, fortune, and legacy Foley made in his 5 years being full-time active in the WWF compared to Bruno in 20 years. He sold out MSG when they used to run it every month. I'd hope so considering he was the top draw for the NEW YORK TERRITORY. Let Foley/Rock,Foley/Austin, Foley/HHH, Foley/Taker, Foley/Michaels, etc. from 1996-2000 run MSG every month and see how many straight sellouts Mick could claim.
Mick Foley has books, matches, iconic moments in wrestling history. Bruno has the longest reign and a bunch of MSG sellouts. There are no defining moments for Bruno other than he was pushed to the fucking moon for a decade. During Bruno's two reigns, you had the Funks, Jack Brisco, and Harley Race all making the NWA World Title the far more prestigious championship. Bruno did bearhugs in mostly squash matches as fellow Italians went bonkers. Last edited by James Steele; 02-13-2013 at 06:08 AM. |
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#118 |
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HHH isnta top 1000 wrestler and not a Hall Of Famer
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#119 |
#YesMovement
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#120 |
OLD SCHOOL FAN
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