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Old 03-11-2013, 12:32 AM   #81
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Devon just said in an interview TPWW posted on the main page that he doesn't see Team 3D reuniting, that he would see it as taking a step back.
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Old 03-11-2013, 01:24 AM   #82
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I think I am just about ready for Vinnie Mac to buy out TNA right about now.
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Old 03-11-2013, 02:47 AM   #83
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It does make sense. Bully Ray got fucked over by Hogan, so he gets in good with his daughter and works his way into some power in TNA. The big question is where does Brooke Hogan fall into all this. Are they going to do it ala Stephanie/Triple H and they "take over" TNA from her father or will it be a deal where Bully Ray keeps finding ways to delay the divorce/annulment and Bully uses that to get what he wants. Or maybe TNA does something different entirely. Either way, I want the Hogans off my TV. At least it wasn't Eric Bischoff.

If we get Bully Ray vs Hogan or some match with divorce on the line, TNA is going to totally rip off the finish to Armageddon 99.
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Old 03-11-2013, 02:56 AM   #84
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FYI: That entire angle doesn't get enough respect for its brilliance.

It tied all the loose ends to the year's angles and launched a new era in WWF. Vince being the Higher Power, being behind Stephanie being abducted and everything, then Vince & Shane being dicks to Steph's boyfriends...Steph falls in love with The Game (can't blame her) and they do the whole wedding ploy just to get back at Vince. Brilliant.
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Old 03-11-2013, 02:58 AM   #85
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Also, it is a good match in its own right. Classic Vince brawl.


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I want to see video of the finish. The report says they were throwing trash and shit. I still don't know why TNA booked a 60,000 seat stadium just to hold a PPV in a 1/8 of it.
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:18 AM   #87
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:28 AM   #88
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They really have officially become WCW lite
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:17 AM   #89
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Nah, that was a pretty good swerve.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:27 AM   #90
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:29 AM   #91
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Cool

Actually watching it now. Weirdly intrigued to see how Jeff Vs Bubba works as a single match as a main event PPV.

Fuck the haters, I love Jeffs theme for some reason.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:29 AM   #92
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I'm a fan of this turn of events.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:31 AM   #93
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Red face

God I hate this guy that isn't Taz or Tenay, whoever the fuck he is. I think Borash is better than any of WWE's ring announcers though.

Fuck me, I forget what great shape Bubba got himself in too. He's earned this push for sure.
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lol @ Hogans "No"'s. How did he have a career in Hollywood?
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:50 AM   #95
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Wink

TNA's core fans are fanatical, so good for them. Can't believe the trash being thrown in, it's mad.
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i am glad bully is a heel again he sucked ass as a face, i wish devon did not do that interview about teem 3d being dead the day before though.
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:08 AM   #97
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:11 AM   #98
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Red face

I enjoyed it. Kinda saw it coming ever since Devon was revealed though. That said, he's the right man for the job. No-one on that roster can cut a heel promo like Bully. Loved it when he was going "Let the bitch cry Devon".

Match was nothing to write home about. The sit-down powerbomb from the top rope was nice though.
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This Turn helps a bit, but TNA should have been at this stage MONTHS ago though.
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:19 AM   #100
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I want to see video of the finish. The report says they were throwing trash and shit. I still don't know why TNA booked a 60,000 seat stadium just to hold a PPV in a 1/8 of it.
Was about to purchase tickets with my brother to go watch, but the seating chart made him think otherwise.
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:41 AM   #101
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It does make sense.
Except for the fact that he has been trading blows with Aces & 8s for awhile.
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:01 AM   #102
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Except for the fact that he has been trading blows with Aces & 8s for awhile.

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well based on that video the best thing Aces and Eights has done is make Ken Anderson look threatening

and also Luke Gallows and Mike Knox are the best
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also I can't wait till next year when TNA starts a stable based on "The Americans"
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I'm hoping they implement Steele's idea for the Confederation of Control led by Ron Simmons. If you're going to have a racially diverse version of a SOA biker gang, may as well have a diverse array of Southern sympathizers complaining of rude New Yorkers and northern cold fronts ruining the weather down South.
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So, Bully is the Prez, huh? Kinda surprised that it wasn't Eric Bischoff. Although I guess he could still be revealed as the CEO...
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:08 AM   #107
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:27 AM   #109
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Plants started the trash throwing.
I was thinking that. It wasn't all that much trash and the crowd wasn't exactly booing the shit out of them. It was dead silent when Bubba won FFS.
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:29 AM   #110
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Except for the fact that he has been trading blows with Aces & 8s for awhile.
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Yeahhh why did he help Jeff beat up Garrat Bischoff and Wes Brisco liek minutes before joining them.
This was a giant inside job by Bully to get himself the World Heavyweight Championship. Garrett and Wes were in on it and what's an ass whopping if it means your boss becomes World Champion and even more powerful along with embarrassing everybody you've been feuding with for months on end. By that logic, every swerve ever is retarded because they were fighting with the dude leading up to the swerve.

I agree that this probably should have been done sooner, but I see why they waited for Lock Down to do it. Lock Down is one of their 3 main PPVs. Hopefully things pick up now in the feud. I am still worried TNA will do what they have done with every other mega stable they have had (they have a evil stable take over every year) and it turn into a clusterfuck where they keep doing swerves and things well after they need to. Aces & Eights is fine now and they can focus on building up the characters and lead into ending the feud at Slammiversary or BFG.
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:33 AM   #111
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Garrett Bischoff can fuck off though. Hate him.
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By that logic, every swerve ever is retarded because they were fighting with the dude leading up to the swerve.
I've seen enough swerves done where they might have spoke against their rival but never attacked them. (Vince vs Kurt, Vince/Kurt ends up destroying Mick Foley. Rey/Spike vs Dudleys, Spike fakes injury beats up Rey)

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Didn't TNA do the same thing with that whole "THEY ARE COMING" angle where Abyss was murdering guys (Jeff Hardy?) with his barbed wire death stick then it turned out they were in cahoots.
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Didn't TNA do the same thing with that whole "THEY ARE COMING" angle where Abyss was murdering guys (Jeff Hardy?) with his barbed wire death stick then it turned out they were in cahoots.
Yes. TNA does the "stable takeover" angle every year.

02-03: SEX (Sports Entertainment Extreme)
04-06: Jarrett's different alliances
06-08: Angle Alliance vs Christian Coalition (Angle at one point in 07 held every title in TNA simultaneously)
08-10: Main Event Mafia vs The Front Line
10-12: Immortal (which absorbed Fourtune)
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I've seen enough swerve done where they might have spoke against their rival but never attacked them. (Vince vs Kurt, Vince/Kurt ends up destroying Mick Foley. Rey/Spike vs Dudleys, Spike fakes injury beats up Rey)
Vince/Austin swerve, Triple H & Chyna join the Corporation, Vince being the Higher Power (remember Undertaker breaking his legs), Vince screwing The Rock at WM2000, etc. All those make less sense than this swerve based on the past fights between the characters, but they worked great.
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Vince/Austin swerve, Triple H & Chyna join the Corporation, Vince being the Higher Power (remember Undertaker breaking his legs), Vince screwing The Rock at WM2000, etc. All those make less sense than this swerve based on the past fights between the characters, but they worked great.
  1. Agreed
  2. I think they joined for the "money" if I remember correctly, money heals all wounds
  3. Taker broke his legs like a year before that though, it wasn't that recent enough. I think the biggest flaw in that swerve is that Taker was basically just a pawn of Vince and Vince was messing with his family for pretty much no reason.
  4. I remember this happened I forget why though.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:18 PM   #117
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I don't watch TNA at all and when I found out that Bully Ray was revealed as the President of Aces & Eights, I initially thought "lol TNA".

But then I thought more about it and I thought that it was actually a good swerve, though with a name like Bully Ray, he couldn't have stayed face for long, so I guess there was some sort of chance that he would be turning heel soon.

I will admit that I do like Aces & Eights to some degree, even though I don't watch TNA. I don't know why I like them, but I do. I must like something about them as ever since the reveal of Devon, I've been checking up on the stable to see who the newest reveal was and then searching for videos of the latest reveals.

I just can't help but look at the stable and see two things. A TNA attempt at the nWo, and a stable made up from mostly WWE Alumni. I don't want to see those but like I said, I can't help it. I hope TNA don't do the whole nWo thing and constantly add guys to the stable as it's good the way it is.

One thing I don't get is D'Lo Brown being the Vice President. Why would he be Vice President when Bully Ray is President? Wouldn't it make more sense if Devon was Vice President after all Ray and Devon have been through together?

But anyway, I digress a bit. I think it's crazy that Bully Ray/Bubba Ray Dudley is now a World Champion. But I mean crazy in a good way. I am happy for the man and he looks so good since his last WWE appearance and TNA debut. He's certainly worked hard to get where he is now. Not forgetting Devon, he too looks good since his last WWE appearance and TNA debut. Both men have obviously worked hard to get to this point and clearly deserve it.
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As a longtime supporter of the Dudleys, I'm happy Bubba/Bully gets the chance to wear the strap.

I was hoping the Aces and 8s stable would be all former WWE members, but they shit the piss with adding Brisco and Bischoff.
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Bully Ray wouldn't have been ready for this push if he hadn't have had that World Title feud with Triple H in 2003.
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