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Old 03-24-2013, 04:30 PM   #1
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Dunno. That sounds like what you would want out of a match. Back and forth action, and then someone wins with their finishing maneuver.

What do you want instead?
LOL, TBH I hadn’t really thought about it that much. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t hate the match or anything, just pretty indifferent about it. Kinda feels like if ADR wins and retains, we get more sort of bland vanilla "man of the people" ADR as champ, and if Swagger gets the title, how can we be sure his 2nd reign as World champion will be any better than the first time, except possibly with Zeb sticking around and having him be the mouthpiece of Swagger maybe and having them antagonize everyone with their videos and speeches.
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Old 03-24-2013, 09:49 PM   #2
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LOL, TBH I hadn’t really thought about it that much. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t hate the match or anything, just pretty indifferent about it. Kinda feels like if ADR wins and retains, we get more sort of bland vanilla "man of the people" ADR as champ, and if Swagger gets the title, how can we be sure his 2nd reign as World champion will be any better than the first time, except possibly with Zeb sticking around and having him be the mouthpiece of Swagger maybe and having them antagonize everyone with their videos and speeches.
ADR winning, absent some dramatic last minute changes to his character, will do nothing more for his career. Swagger and Zeb, however, are drawing alot of controversial attention, and the title win will help get him over as a bigger Neocon heel. With Zeb's agenda, I don't really see the Swagger of now as I had seen the Swagger of before; he's improved character byfar and I think it will go somewhere good.
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Old 03-25-2013, 12:32 PM   #3
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ADR winning, absent some dramatic last minute changes to his character, will do nothing more for his career. Swagger and Zeb, however, are drawing alot of controversial attention, and the title win will help get him over as a bigger Neocon heel. With Zeb's agenda, I don't really see the Swagger of now as I had seen the Swagger of before; he's improved character byfar and I think it will go somewhere good.
That is true; however simply having a better gimmick than he had before and being a more charismatic heel than in 2010 doesn’t mean he’d necessarily have a better title run this time around. I hope he does, if he wins it, but I guess time will tell.
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Old 03-24-2013, 04:23 PM   #4
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So the match you are most excited for is the one with the least amount of build-up and hype.
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Old 03-24-2013, 05:09 PM   #5
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Well The Rock was on Jay Leno promoting..... oh wait. Nevermind.


That was a big time fuck up by the champ.
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Old 03-24-2013, 05:17 PM   #6
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The Rock was on Jay Leno promoting GI Joe and made no mention of Wrasslemania.
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Rock didnt have to promote it, WM sells itself.
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He probably should have promoted it though, ya know?

Did he have the belt with him?
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According to the story on the main page, speculation is that the G.I. Joe guys set up the appearance, not WWE, so he probably wasn't even allowed to promote it. Makes enough sense.
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Didn't have the belt.... yeah I read the part about what was being promoted... but you'd think they'd adjust... or Dwayne himself would have thought "I should probably mention wrestling" it just pushes the notion that wrestling is a negative for his career.
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Didn't have the belt.... yeah I read the part about what was being promoted... but you'd think they'd adjust... or Dwayne himself would have thought "I should probably mention wrestling" it just pushes the notion that wrestling is a negative for his career.
It seems you have no idea how those things work.
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:26 PM   #13
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Think that would be up to Jay Leno to bring it up if The Rock was only scheduled or paid to promote the movie. Probably could blame the WWE a bit for not getting involved or paying a bit to help co-promote stuff during his interview.
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:34 PM   #14
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Kinda strange that it didn't come up. Paid to promote it or not, it's a major part of his professional life right now. It seems like they would have at least talked about it momentarily.
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:43 PM   #15
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If the production company tells him not to, nothing he can do about it. Nor Leno, who would be told to avoid it. They could go "off-script" and talk about it anyways, but whatever.
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Lol. After all that talk about how Rock as champion would be great as he could take the belt across mainstream media and promote the company/Mania.
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:07 PM   #18
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Brock vs Triple H - Saw it at Summerslam already, was pretty average. Part Timer vs Old Part Timer
Rock vs Cena - Saw it last 'Mania, was ok, but the hype is much less this time round as it's not Rock's first match in 7 years, and we know Cena will win this one. Part Timer vs Superman.
Taker vs Punk - Its a fresh fued, which is good, but deep down we know 'Taker is going to win. Old Part Timer vs Best in the world.

The 3 Main events are either rematches and/or we already know the outcome, and the Rocky hype isn't there because he has wrestled recently. Add to that 4 of the 6 main eventers are part time (2 because of age, 2 because of other commitments).

Wreslemania looks lackluster this year to me. But wow does the summer look even worse.

After 'Mania(ish) we are going to lose Jericho, Rock, Brock, Trips, 'Taker. Leaving us with Cena and Punk in the ME picture. Now Punk is good, Punk vs Cena was an ok fued, but 2nd time around wont make it better, and who else is left for them to fight that doesn't seem, like a step down to either of them. Ziggler is close but that's about it.

With all that said it is still possible we could get a stellar Wrestlemania this year. Just because it looks shite on paper doesn't mean it will be. But it will take something pretty special to make is stellar, more so than other years.
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Maybe John Cena will bring up The Rock not mentioning WWE in their next interaction and The Rock will be "Yeah, of course I didn't. You guys are all nerds," and everything will be fine.

Del Rio should go over Swagger at WrestleMania, by the way. But then Dolph Ziggler cashes in setting up a chase for Del Rio.
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I almost forgot WrestleMania was in a couple of weeks
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8 matches now officially set in stone:

WWE Title: John Cena vs. The Rock
CM Punk vs. The Undertaker
No Holds Barred: Brock Lesnar vs. Triple H
Sheamus, Randy Orton, and Big Show vs. The Shield
World Heavyweight Title: Jack Swagger vs. Alberto Del Rio
Ryback vs. Mark Henry
Chris Jericho vs. Fandando
WWE Tag Team Titles: Dolph Ziggler and Big E Langston vs. Team Hell No

8 matches is the same amount they had for the previous two WrestleManis - and that's with there being some retardedly short matches on the show (Sheamus/Bryan last year, The Corre match the year before, etc.) because they just killed SO much time with hype videos, entrances, musical performances, etc.

They did seem to suggest Kailtyn/AJ Lee will have another match. So that might bump it up to 9.
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I'm thinking they might be invovled in the Tag...Cesaro will probably open up the pre-show.
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I wouldn't mind seeing AJ vs. Kaitlyn for the title. Maybe have Trish be the special guest referee. Seems kind of lacking to induct her into the HOF and not even feature a women's match on the card.
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They really should just throw Kaitlyn and AJ into the tag title match. Leave room for a Miz/Barrett IC Title match or something.
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Hopefully where Miz wins the title. This face push needs a shot in the arm.
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Hopefully where Miz loses. This face push needs to be shot in the face.
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:06 PM   #28
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Rock/Cena hype definitely a lot better now. Guess that happens though when both are actually at the show.

Liked Taker getting physical with Punk last night, believe that added quite a bit to the feud.

Fandango/Jericho has been excellently built last few weeks. Now I'm glad they held off on Fandango actually wrestling till Mania.
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Fandango debut will save the card.
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We at least finally have a good, intriguing undercard match. That's a rarity.
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Miz/Barrett was added per WWE.com today as well.
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Don't really care about The Miz vs. Barrett yet. Hopefully they can get me into it. Love the idea of Trish being the Special Referee for Kaitlyn vs. AJ.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:27 AM   #33
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I couldn't give 2 shits about face Miz and his Figure-3 leg tangle. Wouldn't really matter who he was facing.
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:53 AM   #34
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The Miz is the best. Needs to be going for the WHC though, not IC.
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:11 AM   #35
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The Miz is an abhorrent pathetic excuse of a babyface.
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He got over as a heel because he is very hateable. He is average at best in the ring.
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:50 AM   #38
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I think part of the reason The Miz has crashed and burned as a babyface (not the entire reason -- I honestly think he is very awkward in the role) is because he hasn't achieved anything since he's been a face. He turned and then, if anything, he has lost more and hosted more ridiculous talk segments. When Alberto Del Rio turned, he won the World Heavyweight Title from the biggest guy in the company.

I actually think a Dolph Ziggler vs. Miz feud could be quite good. Dolph's not as good as The Miz on the mic, but he's a better personality these days. He's also great at making dudes look great in the ring. The Miz could rag on AJ Lee and get some cheap heat that way. Ric Flair being involved in the storyline could be a lot of fun, too. He could betray The Miz when he finally gets his shot against Ziggler. If The Miz shacks up with Kaitlyn on the air, then it gives Cody Rhodes a reason to go after The Miz as well. Damien Sandow could also get involved. Have Ziggler cash in the Money in the Bank title shot before this all goes down and you have a pretty interesting 4-Way. Well, it has all the potential to be interesting. You could even throw Alberto Del Rio in there and make it a 5-Way (I've never been interested in a 5-Way feud before, but I'd like there to be a first time).
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:57 AM   #39
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The Miz should've just gone with a Kyle Reese gimmick when he returned with the great hair.
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Well i'm glad thats out.
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