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View Poll Results: Job Ryback?
Yes, he is no longer a monster 10 35.71%
No he is THE RYBACK 18 64.29%
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Old 03-20-2013, 06:28 PM   #81
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Except for CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Edge, RVD, jury still out on Ziggler, didn't do anything either way for Cena.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:26 PM   #82
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CM Punks 2nd win was good but his first was lost in the shuffle. But by then he was a main-eventer.

I'd argue that RVD was a maineventer before. They've been fucking ziggle over since Summerslam until recently.

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Old 03-20-2013, 07:41 PM   #83
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Granted. You don't just use anyone in that spot though. The Miz is good. Any momentum they could have carried from that event was squashed soon after and they had to start all over. It takes a long time to really build a star and implant them in the people's minds as a true main event star. You can't keep starting and stopping. There are very few guys that can make themselves. You need to put work in booking-wise over the long haul.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:44 PM   #84
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I don't think MitB really helps with bumping someone to the Main Event. It's kind of a short-cut for the most part with the surprise/cheap cash-ins doing little to establish the guy as someone that can hang with the top guys in the process.
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:06 PM   #85
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Yeah. The gimmick can be used for good. Too often though they use it to try to turn a guy who never even sniffed the main event before into a star. And it only serves to bring the title down and thus make it meaningless for the next guys who hold it.
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:51 PM   #86
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Ryback can bounce back, he is still pretty over. He may not be the next face of the company but I think he can still be a big star. Besides I think Henry might be on his way out and he might want to get a young upper comer over before he leaves. getting Ryback a big Win over a former world champion/World's strongest Man will do great for him.
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I remember way back a few Manias ago when I was "excited" at the thought of a possible future Miz/Rock match/feud.
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I remember way back a few Manias ago when I was "excited" at the thought of a possible future Miz/Rock match/feud.
Ditto it would have been an easy setup too when Miz was still heel there could have been an in ring promo that he mentions winning the main event at WM and walking out WWE Champion then cue The Rock's music.
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Old 03-21-2013, 01:23 PM   #89
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Yeah. The gimmick can be used for good. Too often though they use it to try to turn a guy who never even sniffed the main event before into a star. And it only serves to bring the title down and thus make it meaningless for the next guys who hold it.
Again it comes down to booking like you said previously, if they booked the guy strong after his win it would be so much easier to accept them as main event calibre, most of the guys who win mitb aren't afforded that and are simply given the surprise cash-in moment and that's it. Really hope they give Ziggler a solid push again before he cashes in and let him a decent crack at it.
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Old 03-23-2013, 10:54 AM   #90
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I was mainly a Slater hater because someone (I think it was Noid) tried to make him out to have legit star quality as opposed to being so awful that he can be entertaining.

I don't actually hate him any more than I hate any random low level, plain, personality-lacking jobber.
Hey, all I said was that Heath Slater could be a heat machine and is far better than anyone on here (besides Gertner) gives him credit for. The guy can do flips, moonsaults, corkscrew planchas, etc. But why doesn't he? He understands that it's not appropriate for his character to do that all the time. He also sells like a champion. You want a guy like Slater making your guys like Ryback looking good.

I have used Ryback there to redirect back to the topic at hand, which is that Ryback should pretty much squash Mark Henry at WrestleMania. Not because Mark Henry sucks, because he really doesn't (these days) -- but because Henry is ending his career and Ryback has got a good number of years left, barring some sort of unfortunate injury. The two won't have a pretty match if it goes longer than it needs to, and a pissed off Ryback should brutalize Henry to the point where you almost feel sorry for the man.

Henry can get his heat back by squashing Epico & Primo, or whatever it is they like to do to make their monsters look like monsters these days, and then they can do a Tables Match at Extreme Rules, where Ryback again beats Henry with ease. People now get the idea that Ryback is a beast. Go from there.
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