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Old 03-06-2015, 03:43 PM   #81
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Wouldn't be surprised if the strength coach gets fired as well now that more and more people have been speaking out about the bad stuff occurring in development.
I was under the impression DeMott is the strength coach they were referring to.
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Old 03-06-2015, 03:50 PM   #82
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According to Reddit its some dude called Matt Wichlinkski though.
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Old 03-06-2015, 04:10 PM   #83
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Pretty sure in one of the accounts made public recently, someone said Paige had a complaint against that guy too
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Old 03-06-2015, 05:25 PM   #84
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Old 03-06-2015, 05:30 PM   #85
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Old 03-06-2015, 06:53 PM   #87
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Old 03-06-2015, 07:30 PM   #88
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They are putting Matt Bloom as the interim trainer. Why the fuck can't they get a great worker for this job? They want their roster to look like John Cena and Roman Reigns and their inspirations are supposed to be fat mid carders who have never had a memorable performance in their career.
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Old 03-06-2015, 07:40 PM   #89
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What does his look have to do with training guys how to wrestle?

And Bloom is a great worker. It's not his fault creative botched his return.
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Old 03-06-2015, 07:45 PM   #90
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yeah, don't see anything wrong with that "appointment" at all
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Old 03-06-2015, 08:06 PM   #93
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What does his look have to do with training guys how to wrestle?

And Bloom is a great worker. It's not his fault creative botched his return.
No he's not a great worker, I understand why you might think that, he seems like a nice guy, but he's not a great worker. Even in Japan, I don't think he was a great worker.
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If you are busting peoples ass to get into WWE Shape, maybe you should practice what you preach and not be a fat ass yourself.
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Wow, didn't think anything would actually be done about this. I thought the company would defend DeMott to the death. I mean, why would they hire him in the first place? He always seemed like a surreal pick to me, to be honest -- given that his WWE run was quite minimal. If I were the sort of person he has been accused of, I'd suggest he must give a good blowjob.

Matt Bloom seems like a fine pick for head trainer right now. Being the head trainer doesn't mean you're the best worker ever. There's far more that goes into it.
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Have to agree with Fragile X. If I went to a gym and I was in better shape than the trainer I would look at the trainer and be like, "Seriously? This should be the other way around."
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No he's not a great worker, I understand why you might think that, he seems like a nice guy, but he's not a great worker. Even in Japan, I don't think he was a great worker.
I didn't care for him at all either for most of his first WWE run. But the whole year before he left, he was showing a lot of improvement, and was putting on some surprisingly good matches. He continued to improve in Japan, and had a lot of great tag matches in particular. When he came back he had a few really great matches with Sheamus and Kofi before his whole push was dropped.

This whole position isn't even about WORKRATE or putting on 5-star Meltzer rated classics. As Noid said, there's more to it than that. You're there to learn the fundamentals, and how matches in the WWE work. You're not there to become the next HBK within a matter of weeks.

Don't know what him being a nice guy has to do with anything. You keep bringing up all this stuff that's irrelevant.
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lol alright I guess guys like Samoa Joe and Bray Wyatt are terrible workers, because they aren't CUT.

DO THEY EVEN LIFT, BRO?
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Have to agree with Fragile X. If I went to a gym and I was in better shape than the trainer I would look at the trainer and be like, "Seriously? This should be the other way around."
Even if your trainer was once in great shape, understood the best way to train, had a long list of guys who got into fantastic shape underneath him, and was put into the position by a company that has a bunch of guys that are in great shape they could insert into it? Come on, now.
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There are other trainers at the Performance Centre. They still have their jobs and each bring something to the table. It's not like the head trainer is the only guy you work with. I imagine a large part of what the head trainer does is to co-ordinate training, as well. Maybe they is a strength Bloom has that a lot of the other coaches don't have, or don't want to focus on as opposed to what they already do?
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No he's not a great worker, I understand why you might think that, he seems like a nice guy, but he's not a great worker. Even in Japan, I don't think he was a great worker.
Such a ridiculous statement. Johnny Rodz who was a jobber is one of the greatest trainers of all time. A decent worker. As was Larry Sharpe who runs The Monster Factory.
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Old 03-06-2015, 10:18 PM   #102
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Bloom is a good fit as a head trainer or at least as a temporary one. All he would mainly doing is fundamentals and maybe motivational stuff since the other trainers handle the specialist stuff. Him being fat or not having a great WWE career wouldn't impact those two areas.

Demott's problem was he managed to be horrible at everything he was in charge of at NXT. Horrible as a conditioning coach which is why he got demoted before, horrible at motivational help which is where a lot of the abuse occurred, and really horrible at teaching fundamentals.
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Hell, you want to talk about trainers who weren't "ripped", look at how many wrestlers trained by Afa and Sika

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Old 03-06-2015, 10:27 PM   #104
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I don't think Mat Bloom will be a bad trainer, I'm sure he will be fine. I do think that someone like a Lance Storm or Booker T would be a much better fit for head trainer. Someone who is highly respected as a worker, and also knows what it takes to keep the desired look of a WWE performer on the road.

I like Matt Bloom on commentary, and I know nothing of his coaching skills. I don't think he was a standout worker, which is why I question the choice, given that WWE has so many talents under their wing who still have the whole package.

If Matt Bloom is the best guy they have for the job then I'm glad they chose him.

I know that guys like Lance Storm and Booker T have their own businesses and aren't really available for the job. But I would have been more impressed to get a top notch worker in the job.

I think it would be a valid argument that if any training facility should ever have a trainer who has drawn money to train the guys (something the majority of schools don't have), WWE would be the place.
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Also if I had my way Taz would quit TNA and be the head trainer at NXT and do commentary.
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Just making it to the WWE is huge. Bloom has been exposed to a ton of different styles. Lots of coaches in sports didn't even play in the bigs, but still managed to be great. Scotty Bowman is the greatest coach in NHL history and he can barely skate
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Old 03-06-2015, 10:31 PM   #107
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I actually don't know if anyone has given Booker T high remarks as a trainer and I don't know if any of his guys have gone on to any big companies, anyone know?
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Old 03-06-2015, 10:32 PM   #108
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Just making it to the WWE is huge. Bloom has been exposed to a ton of different styles.
That is a good point. He has worked basic WWE matches for years, including a lot of comedy stuff, and has his experience with big slams in Japan. Not a bad point.

Again I don't think he will be bad. I am just surprised WWE doesn't hire someone who is more in shape to inspire the workers to work hard on their bodies. As well as, using someone who has drawn money and had remarkable matches.
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Old 03-06-2015, 10:35 PM   #109
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Overall I am glad that Demott was gone. I knew he was an asshole from his Tough Enough appearances and what happened at Deep South. I can totally imagine the environment he would create, probably thinking that was the type of hell Vince McMahon wanted the workers to endure, and it probably is.
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Old 03-06-2015, 10:41 PM   #110
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They have separate coaches for that. Bloom's job has nothing to do with that part of it.

Even if it did, as countless veterans have said, there is a huge difference between being in shape, and being in ring shape. Bloom may look fat, but I guarantee you that there are hundreds of guys out there that look like they're in way better shape, but would blow up in the ring way sooner than Bloom would.
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Old 03-06-2015, 10:49 PM   #111
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And I disagree with Albert not being a good worker. I've always been a fan and thoughtbhe was a great big man worker, just lacked personality. He had an awesome big man moveset. Just never connected with the fans. I'd take Albert on my roster any day.
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Old 03-06-2015, 10:50 PM   #112
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They have separate coaches for that. Bloom's job has nothing to do with that part of it.

Even if it did, as countless veterans have said, there is a huge difference between being in shape, and being in ring shape. Bloom may look fat, but I guarantee you that there are hundreds of guys out there that look like they're in way better shape, but would blow up in the ring way sooner than Bloom would.
Dusty Rhodes was a fat piece of shit who was who of the greatest ever. Countless one hour draws with Race and Flair.
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Old 03-06-2015, 10:58 PM   #113
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Overall I am glad that Demott was gone. I knew he was an asshole from his Tough Enough appearances and what happened at Deep South. I can totally imagine the environment he would create, probably thinking that was the type of hell Vince McMahon wanted the workers to endure, and it probably is.
I also think Bloom being head trainer is a good Public Relations move. I've never heard any bad stories about him, he never been in trouble with the law, wasn't involved with steroids or drugs. He's a safe pick.
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Old 03-07-2015, 01:00 AM   #114
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Old 03-07-2015, 01:58 AM   #115
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Is it safe to assume that Regal turned down the role of Head Coach?

Can't see why you'd appoint DeMott or anybody else if you had William Regal down there already. Universally respected, wrestled all over the world, knows the fundamentals, is already down there.
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Old 03-07-2015, 02:13 AM   #116
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Like Gertner said Bloom is a safe pick. He's seems like he is a nice guy who will be firm but fair.

Regal might just be too old to commit to something as physical as that.

They would probably have kept DeMott if not for the sexual harassment issues. They seem to want a drill instructor-like atmosphere.
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Old 03-07-2015, 03:02 AM   #117
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I am glad that Bill DeMott is gone. Disappointed in how WWE's investigations found the allegations to be false.
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Is it safe to assume that Regal turned down the role of Head Coach?

Can't see why you'd appoint DeMott or anybody else if you had William Regal down there already. Universally respected, wrestled all over the world, knows the fundamentals, is already down there.
Maybe Regal already does a lot down there and isn't suited to being removed from his current duties?
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Old 03-07-2015, 03:15 AM   #119
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They should pay Lance Storm a lot of money to leave his school and become the head trainer.
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Old 03-07-2015, 07:40 AM   #120
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Lance Storm is great, but he was never in X-Factor
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