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Old 09-05-2015, 12:05 AM   #1
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Unluckiest - Big Show - horribly booked when he could have been the next Andre. Guy should have been going undefeated and used as a special attraction, a genuine star, but unfortunately entered companies at the wrong time and in the wrong era. Now he has threads about how noone can make him interesting in any situation. Sad and frustrating.

Luckiest - Sandman - no idea how he was able to make a living wrestling for so long. He owes Paul Heyman every cent he ever made because he was horrendous as a performer. If you go back now, he was wasted and all over the place in so many matches, but his character earned him a living, with absolutely no obvious talent.
I friggen LOVED the Sandman
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Old 09-05-2015, 04:52 PM   #2
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Unluckiest - Big Show - horribly booked when he could have been the next Andre. Guy should have been going undefeated and used as a special attraction, a genuine star, but unfortunately entered companies at the wrong time and in the wrong era. Now he has threads about how noone can make him interesting in any situation. Sad and frustrating.

Luckiest - Sandman - no idea how he was able to make a living wrestling for so long. He owes Paul Heyman every cent he ever made because he was horrendous as a performer. If you go back now, he was wasted and all over the place in so many matches, but his character earned him a living, with absolutely no obvious talent.
The Sandman had the ultimate job showing up to work with a beer in your hand being part of that job (being already completely fucking wasted was optional) and you get to hit people over the head with a cane. Lucky as hell.
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Old 08-31-2015, 03:31 PM   #3
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Daniel Bryan being mentioned here, made me think of somebody else, given Bryan's success and still leaving that tremendous void of untapped potential.

hb2k, (not so) secretly hoping you catch this. but maybe not unluckiest but still quite unlucky, has to be Ricky Steamboat. He was one of the all time greats, but in the WWF he was on his way up with the epic match vs. Savage at Mania III and being mega popular, but his dipute with Vince assured he would never be able to reach great heights under Vince's employment.

He obviously did very well in NWA/WCW with Flair after, but a main event WWF run really would have been something special for the Dragon, one of the all time great babyfaces. He reminds me of Daniel Bryan, as whenever they seem on the verge of true greatness , something happens just to keep them underneath the glass ceiling. The fact that the two are the absolute ultimate babyface types sort of ties them together for me. Both are all time great workers, who accumulated great success with memorable matches and moments, with major title wins.... but something always seemed to get in the way, keeping them JUST below the ultimate upper echelon.
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I think Matt Cappotelli has to be very high on the unlucky list. He looked every bit as promising coming out of Tough Enough as John Hennigan/Nitro/Morrison/Mundo, and had some really entertaining stuff in OVW with his fellow TE winner and guys like Jeter and Skyfire. He had a ton of potential until injuries and then finally a tumor brought his career to a screeching halt. Would he have been a mega star? Probably not. But it's terribly unlucky that he never got his shot at the "big time."
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Old 08-31-2015, 05:08 PM   #6
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Old 08-31-2015, 05:36 PM   #7
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I actually went to Toronto this weekend for the sole purpose of fighting Dale Newstead but he didn't show up.
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Did you tell him you were gonna book the ring and then post a fight location of a woman's gym that doesnt have one? Always a classic move
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I actually went to Toronto this weekend for the sole purpose of fighting Dale Newstead but he didn't show up.
uh.... I had a barbershop appointment.
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Old 08-31-2015, 09:20 PM   #11
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Old 08-31-2015, 07:15 PM   #12
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I challenged him to a taped fist match at the Air Canada Centre.
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Old 08-31-2015, 07:19 PM   #13
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I hate how you spell center gertrude. Makes my stomach crawl
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Old 08-31-2015, 07:36 PM   #15
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I hate how you spell center gertrude. Makes my stomach crawl
I'm so sorry for that. Brb, gonna go grab some chocolate milk out of the fridge. Shouldn't be long, it's only a few metres away.
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Old 08-31-2015, 07:18 PM   #16
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I generally don't believe in wrestlers to be lucky. I do think most of the time people do get to the spot they deserve. I think everything evens out.

However the Brutus argument might contradict me on that.
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I challenged him to a taped fist match at the Air Canada Centre.
Did you record it? Could have been a good part of the undercard for the "Pussies no-showing fights" event DVD I'll be selling in a month.
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Old 08-31-2015, 07:37 PM   #18
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Lol Dale plays rugby and would probably kick my giant ass in a heartbeat.
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Lol Dale plays rugby and would probably kick my giant ass in a heartbeat.
Well get on that and we'll make it the main event, then. See if he'll pay for the flight to make it worth your while. I'll give you all proceeds for the sale of the DVD as well. Gonna need SOME actual fighting on this thing.
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Dale plays rugby. I run 5 km races. I see a mis-match.
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Old 09-01-2015, 12:31 AM   #31
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I agree with Jeff Jarrett being on the Lucky list, but I would also add Jerry Lawler to that argument:

Kid who just wanted to be an artist randomly gets to "give it one try" and goes on to have a career many would give their souls for. Never really gets a full shot in WWE but is so well-established from his territory days that any time he wanted to have a match, he gets instant credibility. Then suffers a heart attack on air while world-class medical personnel are in the same building and save his life.
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Old 09-05-2015, 07:46 PM   #32
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Bret taking it too seriously was his biggest flaw. Owen looked like he was having fun. That kind of energy Bret never had.
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Bret taking it too seriously was his biggest flaw. Owen looked like he was having fun. That kind of energy Bret never had.
Owen was nowhere near as authentic as Bret. Heaven forbid someone takes their profession seriously not worrying about it not being cool.
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Bret taking it too seriously was his biggest flaw. Owen looked like he was having fun. That kind of energy Bret never had.
This is silly. How does someone take what they do too seriously a flaw?
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Old 09-05-2015, 11:24 PM   #35
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This is silly. How does someone take what they do too seriously a flaw?
He was a mark for himself.
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He was a mark for himself.
I'm a mark for myself. What's your point?
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You can claim Bret put you to sleep as much as you want, but you can't argue with his body of work, and that many more of his matches are critically acclaimed.
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A few things:

A) Bret was not a terrible promo by any stretch. As a heel, I'd even go as far to say he was a pretty damn good promo.

B) Owen was a great promo too. He was also hilarious on commentary when they let him do that.

C) Fuck all this Hart hate. They were both amazing.
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Bret Hart is probably in something like 85% of my favorite matches of all time.
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