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Old 09-11-2016, 02:27 PM   #1
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Oh, I didn't know that. Well, I doubt Punk wants to fight second-rate. I could see Punk just moving on to other things now. Good for him.
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Would fucking love to see a Kurt Angle vs. CM Punk feud. Just throwing that out there.
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Old 09-11-2016, 03:07 PM   #3
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Would fucking love to see a Kurt Angle vs. CM Punk feud. Just throwing that out there.
Kurt outweighs him by a good bit. I see Angle wrestlefuckung Punk worse than Gall.
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Old 09-11-2016, 03:20 PM   #4
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Kurt outweighs him by a good bit. I see Angle wrestlefuckung Punk worse than Gall.
He was meaning wrestling not MMA
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Old 09-11-2016, 03:23 PM   #5
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Maybe he means Angle would shoot to make it look nasty?
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Not the outcome I wanted, but was the outcome I expected. Mad props to Punk for getting in there when he didn't have to, and his post-fight promo pretty much gives the whole thing meaning to anyone who watched it.

And holy fuck at those early shots from Gall. Fucking hell that kid has some serious power. Props to Punk for surviving those but damn, knew he was in way over his head immediately after that.

It has certainly inspired me. I've been wrestling since 2003 (actually wrestled on a show involving Punk back in 2004), and I've been doing MMA on-and-off over the years, but never to the level that I'd ever have a legit fight. But it's inspired me to go for it. There's an MMA gym five-minutes walk from my house that I've been going to once a week for fun. It's time for me to get in there and go to as many classes as possible. I wanna get to the level where I can have one fight, if nothing else, so that I don't grow old regretting never trying it. I'm 29, certainly not under any illusions of being in the UFC, but would love to just make it to the level of having one fight. Wish me luck!
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Old 09-11-2016, 06:22 PM   #7
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Not the outcome I wanted, but was the outcome I expected. Mad props to Punk for getting in there when he didn't have to, and his post-fight promo pretty much gives the whole thing meaning to anyone who watched it.

And holy fuck at those early shots from Gall. Fucking hell that kid has some serious power. Props to Punk for surviving those but damn, knew he was in way over his head immediately after that.

It has certainly inspired me. I've been wrestling since 2003 (actually wrestled on a show involving Punk back in 2004), and I've been doing MMA on-and-off over the years, but never to the level that I'd ever have a legit fight. But it's inspired me to go for it. There's an MMA gym five-minutes walk from my house that I've been going to once a week for fun. It's time for me to get in there and go to as many classes as possible. I wanna get to the level where I can have one fight, if nothing else, so that I don't grow old regretting never trying it. I'm 29, certainly not under any illusions of being in the UFC, but would love to just make it to the level of having one fight. Wish me luck!
If you become dedicated. Im sure your gym could book you on a local card.
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Also, crazy that people still find shit to argue about here. Who gives a fuck if anyone respects or belittles CM Punk for this entire thing. Everyone has an opinion, worry about your own.
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Old 09-11-2016, 06:48 PM   #9
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Yeah totally. As it is now, I do two hours a session, once a week.

It's good for your typical social "oh Tuesday night is MMA night" but nah, I wanna try and get in there every night. Win, lose or draw, I just wanna be able to look back on it one day happy that I tried it. Gonna be 30 in about four months, don't wanna be 40 looking back regretting not trying it.
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Old 09-11-2016, 07:25 PM   #11
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Wow all of those memes are incredibly not funny.

In fact, memes haven't been funny in ages.
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Wow all of those memes are incredibly not funny.

In fact, memes haven't been funny in ages.
Christian hasn't been funny in ages either meaning when he was with Edge.
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Well, you generally hate everything.
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I'm totally not sorry if that bothers you.
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For whatever reason, I found it to be one of the least enjoyable fights I've ever watched. I like Punk, and by no means expected him to fare well, but something about the reality of it playing out stuck an odd chord with me.

Seeing him walk out to Cult of Personality and carry himself SO well until the fight started made me realise - this guy was made for pro wrestling, he really should be there, but the industry is so fucked up it'll drive a man insane. So here he is - completely out of his element, galloping out of his corner like fucking Secretariat right into a takedown. A friend asked me what I thought would happen on Friday, and my answer was takedown-punches-choke in the first round. And I'm not saying I'm clever because I said that in advance, because I'm not - it was obvious.

Like a lamb to the slaughter, not a soul on the Earth believed he had a chance, they knew he wasn't qualified, the athletic commissions waived their own fucking rules to let him fight for the cash grab. And I'm not crying for Punk - I'm sure he made his money too. But nothing about that was fun. Punk looked like shit, wrestling looked like shit, UFC looked like shit.

Oh, and Filthy Tom Lawlor can fuck off crying on Observer Radio about how Punk being in UFC has damaged the cache and respectability of being a "UFC Fighter". Like Sean Gannon fresh off the Kimbo Slice video looking like he's spent his six week camp eating lard pies wasn't a bigger black eye. Or James Toney, how was also out of shape and out of his element. At least Punk worked hard and was ripped, and at least Mickey Gall was inches away from Punk when he took him down, Randy Couture was still on the fucking airplane when he started shooting in on Toney and got him to the ground anyway. Freak show matches have happened before, and if these morons are deluded enough to think this will be a lesson, just wait until the next celebrity wannabe tries it and watch UFC and the commissions bark like sea lions all over again. And of all people not to get that, it's Tom Lawlor, the biggest wrestling fan in the UFC. Defies belief.




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Oh, and Filthy Tom Lawlor can fuck off crying on Observer Radio about how Punk being in UFC has damaged the cache and respectability of being a "UFC Fighter". Like Sean Gannon fresh off the Kimbo Slice video looking like he's spent his six week camp eating lard pies wasn't a bigger black eye. Or James Toney, how was also out of shape and out of his element. At least Punk worked hard and was ripped, and at least Mickey Gall was inches away from Punk when he took him down, Randy Couture was still on the fucking airplane when he started shooting in on Toney and got him to the ground anyway. Freak show matches have happened before, and if these morons are deluded enough to think this will be a lesson, just wait until the next celebrity wannabe tries it and watch UFC and the commissions bark like sea lions all over again. And of all people not to get that, it's Tom Lawlor, the biggest wrestling fan in the UFC. Defies belief.

I like Tom Lawlor but MMA fighters are full of shit on many things. Firstly, they need to remember the roots MMA has in pro wrestling. 2ndly, what you said. Fucking whiny losers.
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Well said. It really is a shame there's not a legitimate #2 promotion that could give talent leverage when it came to their creative direction and such. I really doubt Vince would have fucked around with CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Cesaro, Wade Barrett, Dolph Ziggler, Ryback and basically anyone else with star potential if there was someone drawing 3.0 ratings.
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We both know that was just a phony montage shot solely for the doc. Punk worked out as often as his basement dwelling fans
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We both know that was just a phony montage shot solely for the doc. Punk worked out as often as his basement dwelling fans
Its weird cause Punk works out in his basement
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I think Punk worked out. I just dont' think he's much of an athlete and I don't necessarily think he trained at a super high level.

I do think he ran. He always talks about doing marathons and shit. I don't think he was a great runner due to his lack of athleticism but I think he kept relatively fit. It's not like the guy was gassing out in his matches and he worked a quick pace. He also had a decent look.... it's not like he had the body of Kassius Ohno.
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Interesting that Tom Lawlor mocked Punk. Work?
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Old 09-13-2016, 01:07 AM   #26
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more talking about Destor who actually neg repped me in an odd sequence of events,
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Wake up, 'smart' fans; the man does not like you and doesn't care about you . He doesn't want your pity or your remorse. Stop defending your abusive boyfriend, IWC. He doesn't respect you. Raise your self esteem and leave him. Stop letting your indy darling give you virtual black eye's just because you like his in-ring work. Have some dignity. Jesus...

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You know, that's a great point.

He walked out on WWE and his fans, acted like he was Billy Bad Ass for it, then spends the next 2 years training for this debacle. He didn't fight any small time fighters like Brock or Batista did, he was handed a spot on PPV he didn't do a thing to earn aside from being a famous pro rassler, and he got destroyed by a kid much younger and much more experienced. 2 years of training for a humiliating 2 minute fight where his "tough guy" image was completely shattered. I think a lot of people are mistaking respect for pity.

I'm not even sure WWE would want him back now. Not after that.
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You know, that's a great point.

He walked out on WWE and his fans, acted like he was Billy Bad Ass for it, then spends the next 2 years training for this debacle. He didn't fight any small time fighters like Brock or Batista did, he was handed a spot on PPV he didn't do a thing to earn aside from being a famous pro rassler, and he got destroyed by a kid much younger and much more experienced. 2 years of training for a humiliating 2 minute fight where his "tough guy" image was completely shattered. I think a lot of people are mistaking respect for pity.

I'm not even sure WWE would want him back now. Not after that.
personally i would prefer if no one ever used him again. Unless he's booked as pure chicken shit.
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He didn't fight any small time fighters like Brock or Batista did, he was handed a spot on PPV he didn't do a thing to earn aside from being a famous pro rassler
To be fair, Brock only had one MMA fight, before joining the UFC, against a 2-5 can, whose only notable win was against another former prowrestler, Sean O Haire. Brocks second every MMA fight was a UFC ppv comain event against a former multiple time UFC heavyweight champion, in Frank Mir. He lost that fight after Mazzagotti stopped it for illegal blows to the back of the head. When he reatarted the match, Mir grabbed a leg and secured a knee bar. Lesnar then faced JMMA vet Heath Herring, looked good. His forth fight was a rematch main event at UFC 100, which at the time, was the biggest event UFC had ever put on. The comain of the PPV was GSP (the biggest draw at the time) defending his welterweight title against Alves. The main difference between Lesnar and Punk is the amature wrestling background.

If punk fights again, it will be against Mike Jackson on a Fight Pass card.
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Old 09-15-2016, 09:54 PM   #33
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Chicken shit? He is nothing of the sort. He went after his dream and got his ass handed to him. That's not chicken shit.

Also shame on you responding to an obvious sock's response to another sock's response.

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Chicken shit? He is nothing of the sort. He went after his dream and got his ass handed to him. That's not chicken shit.

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The fact that you know what sock means is suspect.
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According to the Observer, UFC 203 with Punk looking to be a big success in terms of buys.

Punk might have helped bring in around an extra $5 million more than usual for the ppv.

Earlier reports about the prelims stated it was low but the Observer and others believed it was due to the majority of people only caring about the Punk fight and/or the main card.

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The flip side of this is Punk’s debut from a business standpoint based on early evidence looks to be a success. Early indications based off internet PPV numbers are that the show will do something in the range of 450,000 to 460,000 buys (and keep in mind any number based strictly on iPPV buys could be off significantly) for a show that would have probably done about 270,000 without him. Based on a few numbers, coming in at about 70 percent to double that of UFC 201, that would indicate a number in the 425,000 to 475,000 range, but those figures could easily be off this early. The number greatly exceeded company projections. So if we estimate it as 180,000 more buys due to him at nearly $30 per head to the promotion, that’s $5.4 million in added revenue, not to mention any other value as far as bar purchases, merchandise, whatever value he brings to other UFC products and the like. When the word came out that he was paid $500,000, a lot of people were shocked and upset. The reality is he would have almost certainly had a cut of the PPV since he was the top draw on the show. While it doesn’t appear the PPV did a monster number, with a PPV cut, you’re probably talking about a few hundred thousand more dollars added on to that purse. And given the revenue he brought to the table and the interest level, right now it looks to have been a bargain for UFC. I was shocked that in 2016 people would complain about what he earned when it was clear he was going to drive some revenue, and $500,000 is only 17,000 extra buys, a number even the most conservative of estimates should have figured he’d blow past.
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UFC is money-driven like anything else. If this boosted the buy-rate then they'll want him back for another fight to see if it can draw too. How will Punk do round two? When he loses that it and the returns are diminished, I think he'll settle comfortably into whatever life he wants to have.
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Yeah, if that's true, then in reality, everyone wins all round, and regardless of how it may seem "disrespectful" to other MMA fighters, it was a great business move by UFC.
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Chicken shit? He is nothing of the sort. He went after his dream and got his ass handed to him. That's not chicken shit.

Also shame on you responding to an obvious sock's response to another sock's response.

Shame!
Doesnt matter what he really is, it matters what he's percieved as being. Which is a person who can not fight. He would need to be booked as such.
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Yeah, if that's true, then in reality, everyone wins all round, and regardless of how it may seem "disrespectful" to other MMA fighters, it was a great business move by UFC.
The laugh i get is that punk went in and did exactly what he left the WWE for. Names bumping guys who deserve the spot and collecting big pay days. Guy is a scum bag. Didnt think that before he went to UFC. Though I admit I love his in ring work. Course now he's gone off and killed all his credibility in the ring so that's gone too I guess.
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Completely agree with Destor here. Any self-respecting promoter would be shit-scared about bringing CM Punk in any sort of "bad-ass" role after he got his ass handed to him in the UFC. It reinforces the real/fake divide, and the more you do that, the more people are driven away. I used to think there could be some sort of "ironic attraction" to those sorts of things, but the only people it really appeals to are wrestling fans.

If Punk wanted to get back into wrestling, you'd be a fool not to take him, but you've got to smart about how you book him. I'd suggest that he be brought in as a manager or commentator that is eventually cornered in the ring. Punk's ego, and perhaps rightfully so, is probably too big to put himself in the Bobby Heenan role in 2016/2017 though.
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