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Old 10-03-2019, 07:25 PM   #81
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I like when theyre just sitting on a bench chilling. Being cute.
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I'm half expecting it to turn out that it's just been the same one following me around everywhere and it's actually the dark spawn that will destroy everything. But then I wont even be mad at it because it's so adorable.
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Old 10-04-2019, 09:51 AM   #83
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Yggdrasil

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Damn, things went full World of Ruin. Kefkaesque. I died at the next boss because I got mob focused and was struggling to manage my MP. It's not a particularly hard boss... but I'd spent 20 minutes beating every mob on the battlefield beforehand. Decided to invest all my returned points into attack boosts and smashed him easily.

Still dont trust the King, that dudes eyes are legitimately untrustworthy.

I hope Jade comes back soon. And where did the owls go!?!?!?!
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Old 10-07-2019, 07:49 PM   #84
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I guess the owls were only missing for that one location because they are EVERYWHERE again. What are you??? How can I understand you???
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Old 10-07-2019, 08:46 PM   #85
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Do you mean the little blue guys or whatever? You'll see them walking sometimes and they disappear occasionally?
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Yeah, same things as the little guy who was the focus of the opening movie.
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Old 10-07-2019, 09:03 PM   #87
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ah, well, nothing spoiler related, but if you follow the ones that walk around and disappear a lot of times they are trying to lead you in the direction of a treasure or something. The ones that are just sitting in places are often times very near treasure as well.
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Oh cool, I thought they were just stalking the Luminary

Another thing I like is that some (maybe all? I'm not sure) monster's have overkill death animations and I love all the detail they've put into the game. The Cruelcumber type enemies fall back and accidently impale themselves with their own spears, it's so extra it brings a smile to my face every single time.
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The kill animations are so stinking cute. Game has so much charm
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Eric's act 2 boss squashed me in three turns so I decided to go exploring. Stumbled upon a very interesting scene in Gallopolis. I know I'm not supposed to be here yet but...

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Gublet saw a Solid Ghost Owl on Rab's head and its purple and has tentacles and you can see its heart and I am close to answers!


Guess I'll see if I can find some Liquid Metals and get back on the path as quick as I can.
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Spoiler tag because I'm not sure who all you have in your party r/n, can't remember if you have everyone at the point you are at. But it's in reference to a tactic for metal slime farming.

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Put Hero, Jade, Sylvando and Rab in your party. Have all at full pep. Start battle. Have Hero/Jade/Sylvando cast the triple pep power "electro light". Will replace all enemies on the field with various metal slimes. If you luck up and get a King variant, use Rab and use pep power Dirge of Dundrasil, which guarantees it goes to sleep. In lieu of Rab you can also use Erik and Critical Claim ability to insta-kill one of the slimes. You know what to do from there.
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I'm missing two but I have all those guys. Oh nice, I forgot all about that pep ability, used it once by chance in act 1 to see what it did and was like "oh that's really useful".
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If youre pep xp farming once someone becomes pepped that you need to cast a pep skill just tag them out until all characters needed are pepped and ready
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Oh yeah, I found that one out the hard way when Dora went 10-0 on me. Might still need a little bit of luck though since I dont have the full set of reserves. I know Hero has a pep on demand spell for himself so I guess I can always respec him if I have to.

Is Electro Light better to cast on large groups of enemies? Does the level of what you use it against factor in, or is it all just RNG?
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Your level determines the level of the slime...no clue about how many though...
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Yeah It seemed to give me one Vicious Liquid and 2 Vicious Metals no matter what I used it on, apart from when it failed and sent out shitty robots.

Arboria 2nd Visit:

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Damn, I mean I accidentally read the spoiler and I knew somebody was dying at some point but she doesn't even get to rejoin the party? Cold. At least Serena is sort of useful now I guess? And she's doing the old Princess Garnet dramatic knife haircut gimmick. It kind of clicked for me that it would be Veronica not only after the weird conversation about dying she had with Serena at the end of act 1, but when Memory Loss Eric is being all apologetic Sylv straight up says "If Veronica could see this she would DIE". Hilariously blunt.

I'm actually expecting Veronica to somehow come back, if only because she's in the opening video in her adult body. Maybe part of her soul is still trapped in a jar somewhere. Wouldn't surprise me if she made a Horcrux

So then we get a Giant whale airship and go meet a Tellytubby in a floating temple and this game is so weird it's great. I went exploring and found as island FULL of owl ghosts, kinda spooky but also kind of the best location in the game. Gonna hurry over to Gallopolis and see how that little thread pans out.

Also met a bard called Luter Van Boss
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They hit all the beats just right on that death though, completely unexpected and not just done for shock value, at a point where you're so happy to finally have everyone back. If Serena had died I don't think it would have had as much impact either, Veronica left a big impression.

Gallopolis / Hotto was super short (and gave me even more questions about my ghostly owl boys) so I've been fighting my way up to Mordegon. One Winged Jaspar is a real motherfucker, going to have to grind out a few more levels I think and maybe get some better gear. Currently have Gublet (Hero) 55, Everyone else 54-53, Serena 51. Sylv's usefulness has really dropped off for me, which is a shame. He's a status & buffs master but he's not really got anything in his kit useful enough to keep his spot over Serena. Erik's really strong for like one hit every fight and Henrik's dps is tragic. Need to get the Omni Heal (I think?) skill for Luminary and figure out some dark mitigation at the very least.

I'm been using Greatswords instead of swords though since the very first Heliodor sequence. Is Sword of Light worth a respec for these last battles, or is it better to use it as an item?
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I used great swords from start to finish. Cant really say. Serena is def MVP for the most part. Veronica was my AoE dps though. What a nuker that one was. Rapp is a poor substitute but i will say tagging your party in and on mid battle does make sylvando much more useful.
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115 hrs, Lv66, Harder monsters mode CLEARED. But it's not over yet... so many unanswered questions and the thing I love about this being an old school RPG is that I know they're not DLC or sequel bait.

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The locked doors everywhere, that weird evil medallion in the ruins if Zwaarthurst (sp?), what was Erdicks Lantern?, the sapling ygdrasil roots, the books Gublet was not "ready" to read. Most important of all, what are those goddamn adorable owl ghost creatures up to!?!?!
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I had such a rough time with Mordegon, I really did. He's not as bad as Dora-In-Grey for cheapness, but the fight is SO long that when you lose it really hurts.

First attempt I was LV58 and lasted a long time, mostly just tying to heal and buff / debuff. I was getting no DPS in and eventually ran out of MP. Figured I needed to keep him dazzled because his multi-hit physical attack can wipe out the entire party just like that, especially with his clone up. I tried again immediately and had the same problem, dazzle never seemed to land, the buffs his clone was casting on him meant Jade was doing barely any DPS, I'm constantly using two characters to heal. Another dragged out defeat due to running out of MP.

At this point I realised I needed to level, specifically I needed to unlock a move to get rid of his buffs (Rab and Sylv both had one that I knew about) and I needed some Sage's Elixers to solve my MP problems. I went straight to the casino in Octagonia, because there was a Roulette jackpot quest there I wanted to work on anyway. I head straight to the high rollers, ask the bunny girl about the jackpot and she says somebody is going to win it soon. Cool. Went on the 200s table, bet 200 tokens on 17 and... won the fucking Jackpot on my first spin

Did the Hallelujah + Electro Light trick twice and that took me up to LV66-62 with a good stock of Elixers and buff erasers unlocked. I switch Jade for Erik to exploit his DPS. Should be easy now right?

Same fucking slog. Every time I set up Erik and get ready to strike he either dies or gets his buff erased by the white orb move. This time I manage to beat the first form and get introduced to another, oh yeah that long ass battle was just the first half! Shit. I struggle through it, burning through Elixers and get both heads of this snake dragon skeleton fucker down to yellow when he hits me with "Bolt from the Blue" and wipes Gublet, Rab and Serena all in one. This is when I realise I don't actually have any Yggdrasil Leaves and can't resurrect anyone now. Boss is on yellow, maybe I can tough it out... Erik and Jade die on the next turn, then Sylv and I'm left with dumb old Henrik doing 36 damage a turn until he joins them. FUCK.

Try again. This time I barely make it four rounds when he does his multi-hit physical and KOs the wonderful combination of Hero, Rab and Serena. I hard quit out of the game at this point.

Two more attempts with Erik failed at the first stage, one where Erik never even got off an attack because he was either KOd, a gold statue or debuffed for the entire fight. At this point I'm like fuck Erik, at least Jade is going to be attacking every turn because she cant do anything else.

A lengthy fight followed, and rather than going back to the casino to buy some Yggdrasil Leaves like a rational person, I risked it. Jade turned out to be a much better DPS than Erik, I used hero to Quadra Slash constantly and if I got a free turn on Rab or Serena I used it to get rid of the clones. There was a rough moment near the end of phase two where Rab and Serena were both out of action (knocked down & paralysed) but I managed to drop the Dragon head during that turn, once that fell it was a gentle stroll to the finish line.

Eat shit Mordy.
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That fight seems like one helliva time. Im keeping my mouth shut but i cant wait to hear you go through the "post game"
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Those 36 damage desperation axe swings 40 mins into the fight were my favourite bit. I was just sat here like
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Found out what the owls are, kinda? They're observing lost timelines? They are the trapped souls of time travellers? They are something that's for sure. More owls please. Just not that purple one...

Err Time Travel and erasing the timeline though, why does nobody have a problem with that? I mean sure saving Veronica is awesome and all but I've been back 5 mins and now we've unleashed an eldritch horror, I've had to rescue my dads ghost from having his soul eaten by an even stronger motherfucker and who knows what else awful shit is happening. The MMA fighters have gone missing again. That spider is back isn't it. God damn it.

I got severe anxiety when my party dropped 30 levels haha, so relieved to get them back. Serena is useless again though. I immediately went looking for a grave in Zwaathrust because it was the only act 2 quest I didnt finish and that's when I discovered ghost dad was back. I think the cruelest twist is that Sylv's dad will probably never discover his burning passion for dance.
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so youve discovered the best part of this game. This isnt post game content. Youve traveled back in time to BEFORE THE CREDIT ROLL. Its brilliant.
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Yeah I was expecting a few side quests and superbosses and instead I get another lap of the world. This is genuinely brilliant.

Those few moments with Carnelian totally not being possesed by Mordegon were painful though. Like come on hero, I know you can actually speak, clue your friends in. Tell them about that tentacle owl ghost that was crawling on their faces. Why are you like this?
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I'm level 70 and post game Octogania boss curb stomped me. I was worried I'd be over levelled Going to try my luck elsewhere.

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Even the MMA guys were tough, boomerang on that Golden Boy are insane. Spider is ridiculous, shoots the spines once and I'm practically dead already.


Purple one has so much personality, almost felt sorry for it back there.

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Also adult Veronica coming back for like ten seconds before she turns into a tree and now shes a kid again. What a ride shes having this hour.
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All the post game bosses were kicking my butt so I did the metal slime level trick, gained 7 levels at once (I'm around 91) and now I'm overpowered as fuck. Hopefully the ultra bosses still put up a bit if a fight.

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Last two wheel of Harma fights, Battlegrounds boss, Drustans trials 2-5 and purple boy Calasmos.

Also, one of the secret wishes is to marry Gemma. Why on earth would I want to do that!? Also why am I wishing Serena gets a haircut. Why waste a wish on that when he could have wished for adult veronica? Or for Sylv to get a decent costume. Or a couple more Jades. Why cant I marry Jade she is totally down for the Luminary.
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Eventually got around to wrapping this one up.

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I read in numerous places that the trial isle 5th boss was the hardest in the game. I got him in 40 turns on my second attempt. First attempt I wasn't prepared for him and he wiped me pretty easily but with kabuff and Hendrik doing his cover move the only danger was the time limit. Magic Burst Veronica and a load of Elfin Elixer's from the Casino seemed like it would be a cheap strategy but it seems like a requirement on hard mode.

There is really no point in crafting the strongest weapons since by the time you get the recipes there's only one boss left.

Calasmos was also a little bitch. He wiped me the first time because I didn't put the Sword of Light in my bag to break his barrier like the Teletubby said, but I'm so glad I did because HE SUMMONS THE EVIL LITTLE PURPLE OWLS AND THEY FLOP THEIR TENTACLES AROUND BEFORE THEY HELP HIM ONE SHOT YOU AND IT'S THE BEST. Second fight he never really did much, I didn't even Magic Burst him or use Erik. He also looked way cooler with the mask on.

I did not understand the ending at all, was worried Serenica was going to go back and time and make it so none of the game even happened and everything I'd done for the last 150 hours was pointless. Instead she just wanted to hold hands with Erdwin? Huh. Assuming all those other scenes were from the first game and it was an Easter egg since the credits had all that footage from previous instalments.


Pretty damn good game overall. It isn't my favourite JRPG this gen, but I had a great time with it and would definitely play more of these. Not sure I'd want to go back and play any of the older ones though. Maybe the PS2 one.
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Ps2 3ds ones...if they come to the switch...im all in.
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Oh yeah for sure if they come to switch I'll pick up the DS games. I thought DQX looked cool too but then I found out was an MMO. Everything before, I wanna say 7, looked a little too old school for my ever increasing backlog.
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Im def all in on DQ going forward though. They've lifetime day 1 sales from me.
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