10-17-2018, 01:23 PM | #81 |
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10-17-2018, 01:50 PM | #82 |
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Such a loving look in Pacquiaos eyes, too. Definitely wants to go further but he knows society isn’t ready yet.
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10-17-2018, 03:55 PM | #83 |
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I love when PC conflicts with PC. If dude just called somebody gay there would be protests and boycotts calling for his job. But calling something gay as a way to push a PC agenda like "how could WWE still do business with Saudis after what they did, I mean we already know they are gay but come on!" and suddenly it's cool.
Saudis kill a journalist, and everybody should just exclude the whole country from everything, and you are a monster if you dont. But the President says he doesn't want refugees cause a few terrorist posed as refugees, and he is pure evil. It's all about spinning a story. It's like that lady who called the police on the kid for what she thought was him grabbing her ass. She would have been a #metoo #timesup hero if it wasn't for who she called the police on, but she failed to realize a white woman calling police on a black person is more offensive than a woman being sexually assualted. End result, she gets mocked with cute nicknames and has to apologize. |
10-17-2018, 04:12 PM | #84 | |
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10-17-2018, 04:48 PM | #85 |
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10-17-2018, 05:35 PM | #86 |
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Notice how Mayweather is pushing the referee away from the hug?
Only shirtless men can hug in boxing. |
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The US's problems are many, but what the fuck does that have to do with what we're talking about? It's a straw-man to marginalize the regimented evil in Saudi Arabia. It's irrelevant. Quote:
And on a further point about "everybody does it, so what's the big deal?", the thing about this is that almost every other entertainment property and many big businesses have actually pulled the fuck out, because they know how toxic this is. So no, not everybody is doing it. WWE is, which is the point -- not what happens in the US. Quote:
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I think what is telling about it is that even with his comedians and research teams, and all the press WWE is getting in regards to this deal, people still don't give a fuck about WWE enough to dig beneath the surface and actually probe them for the insightful stuff. There's an amazing take-down piece on WWE and how they run ship waiting to happen, but no one with brains is going to waste them on this company, which is why they've gotten away with shit for so long, haha. Quote:
If the audience saw it as an anti-gay slur, they wouldn't have laughed and Oliver would have gotten heat for it. It probably wouldn't have made the air. They think about these jokes. The joke was not at the expense of being gay, it was at the expense of wrestling. That being said, I do think jokes about latent homosexuality are passe, easy and off in their aim anyway. And it is far more applicable to wrestling two or three decades ago -- back when it was culturally relevant. The writers were probably thinking about Randy Savage, Hulk Hogan and Ultimate Warrior more than they were thinking about Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose. The rest of your post doesn't really make sense to me, haha. They're completely separate issues. Not doing business with an oppressive regime and not accepting refugees from those regimes are actually opposite issues. I don't see a contradiction there at all. And I'm not that familiar with the story about the kid and the woman beyond the headline, but from what I read her statement was based on fear and prejudice? I don't really want to get into that, but it sounds like you're making some massive sweeping generalizations there that don't accurately reflect the issues. |
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10-17-2018, 07:11 PM | #88 |
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I'll break this down to the simplest thing you need to know.
If Donald Trump wasn't best buddies with Vince the media wouldn't give a fuck about the WWE running a show in Saudi Arabia. |
10-17-2018, 08:32 PM | #89 |
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Noid, your post is too long to quote, but droford got my point. Everything gets spun to fit a narrative that is desired.
I just find humor in the hypocrisy of the guy trying to get on his high horse while at the same time taking a cheap shot. |
10-17-2018, 09:06 PM | #90 | |
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They'd be getting the same negative reception even if Vince didn't have any personal connections to Trump. |
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10-17-2018, 09:19 PM | #91 | |
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10-17-2018, 10:25 PM | #92 | |
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Amazon not only sells to Saudi Arabia, they have their version of Amazon.com, called souq. Nobody is calling out Amazon. Do I think WWE should promote how great Saudi Arabia is, hell no, even before all this. But because of Trump, Linda McMahon, the WWE HOF, all that intermixing, WWE is getting the heat. A big part of it is because Trump likes their money and selling them weapons, so this is a way to protest that after what happened. If Trump was dead set against America working with Saudi Arabia, WWE would get praise for standing up to Trump by the same people who are mad at them now. |
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10-17-2018, 10:48 PM | #93 | |
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If anything, it would lead to even more backlash and get rid of any pretext of them being with the Saudis for non-monetary reasons. They'd also be opening themselves to potentially serious legal repercussions if the US were to pass sanctions. |
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10-18-2018, 01:35 AM | #95 | |
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My point is regardless of the situation, the media will spin it and make it about hating Trump. If WWE could not be tied to Trump, it would not be such an issue. If they were against Trump, the same media would spin WWE in a positive light for going against Trump. That is all I am saying. Nothing political or a moral stand, just that WWEs portrayal in this story is skewed by the media's hatred for Trump. WWE going would be a bad move in my opinion either way, but the level of anger and disgust toward them by the high horse media would be far less if WWE was not seen as "Trump Friendly". |
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10-18-2018, 01:40 AM | #96 | |
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10-18-2018, 01:58 AM | #97 |
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No, the media would not be praising WWE for going if Trump were against it, lol.
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10-18-2018, 01:59 AM | #98 | |
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Since Trump seems to be of the mindset that it is unfair people are blaming the Saudis, chances of WWE doing anything themselves are slim to none. WWE would still be catching a ton of heat even if they never had any involvement with or were hated by Trump. In a way, WWE brought this to themselves with their constant and unashamed PR blabber about being a driver of progress for women's wrestling. Pretty much night & day of how WWE was treated for an event in the UAE I believe when it came to women's wrestling. The government didn't ban it because of ultra conservative religious reasons and WWE's women wrestlers wore full body gear as an acceptable compromise. |
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10-18-2018, 01:59 AM | #99 |
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You're putting the cart before the horse there. People are upset becaus of Saudi Arabia's human rights abuses and the corruption of the regime. If the regime is corrupt because of Trump, sure, they might be mad at Trump too, but the terms aren't conditional based on that. It's because Saudi Arabia is a shitty, shitty place that does shitty, shitty things to its people.
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10-18-2018, 03:07 AM | #100 | |
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WWE should have bailed from the deal after the Saudis were upset about Carmella in a promotional video and Davari got death threats after the GRR. |
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10-18-2018, 10:44 AM | #101 |
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10-22-2018, 01:33 PM | #103 |
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the Rock is in trouble for having dinner with the Prince
To be fair a bunch of famous people had dinner with him too |
10-22-2018, 01:40 PM | #104 |
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Good... was an embarrassing post by The Rock
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10-22-2018, 01:46 PM | #105 |
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Dude is totally right
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10-22-2018, 01:47 PM | #106 |
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But yeah basically like 75% of the world's most famous / powerful people did the same thing
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10-22-2018, 01:49 PM | #107 |
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Rock might have just been misinformed. Dude is trying to blow up his spot for clicks.
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10-22-2018, 01:50 PM | #108 |
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I see nothing wrong with his post. If being a nice person and listening to other's views is embarrassing then that's pretty sad. That's what America is all about but people don't like to listen to views they don't share anymore.
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10-22-2018, 01:50 PM | #109 |
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All of the famous people who did PR for Saudi Arabia should be criticized for it
Why should he be exempt from criticism? A reporter is asking him to follow up to see if his thoughts have changed. |
10-22-2018, 01:52 PM | #110 |
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Doing propaganda for a mass murdering dictator to your millions of fans isn't just "being a nice person and listening to other people's views"
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10-22-2018, 01:53 PM | #111 |
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They can be criticized but there's likely a much better way to go about it than shaming him on social media.
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10-22-2018, 01:54 PM | #112 |
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The Rock will be the next President after Trump probably.
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10-22-2018, 01:54 PM | #113 |
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Keep in mind, they could have just drank the kool-aid and thought the dude was actually "progressive" only to later realize otherwise.
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10-22-2018, 02:12 PM | #114 |
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10-22-2018, 05:00 PM | #115 |
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…….You can't be serious.
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10-22-2018, 05:15 PM | #116 |
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10-22-2018, 05:16 PM | #117 | |
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Between what's been reported about the deal and their own actions, WWE comes off as only caring about the money and having no issue sprouting whatever message the Saudis want put out. |
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10-22-2018, 05:28 PM | #118 |
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More sites starting to report Cena/Dbry have told WWE they aren't working Crown Jewel and Roman being injured for a few weeks
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10-22-2018, 05:29 PM | #119 |
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They might also do something where Bryan gets an injury angle, and Joe takes his spot in the match. Cena is easy, they could just say he forfeit's his match in the American Cup. Roman being injured also doesn't really matter in a triple threat. They can hide/work around that. In the end good for Bryan and Cena for not compromising their morals if the story is true about them refusing to go. It is nothing but a cash grab. I think too as a fan, this doesn't feel like the last show thanks to the last show. GRR felt like it was gonna be a HUGE event, then it ended up being a worthless house show. No title changes, no storylines, bell even the actual GRR meant nothing, Braun didn't get anything from winning other than a green title that has never been used since. No title shots, they don't even mention it on tv. My point is I would not be upset one bit if they cancelled it, because it just isn't important, and with it not being important all that is left is being offended WWE is willing to overlook everything for maybe $45 Million. Which by the way, WWE as a company is worth roughly $6.5 Billion, so we are talking about them overlooking horrific things to make less than 1% of their total value. |
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