"I want them to love me like they love Pac" It seems they do 50

Originally Posted by Kane Knight Well, I can sure name a ton of people who do. Hence the reason I called it a bs example.

lol I'm telling you, you are wrong on this Kane. Alot of people know Sandstrom by Darude.

Dance Music is a bit more mainstream than people think.

[The Mackem]

I like the various forms of dance music.

thank you Wadding

[DaveWadding]

Originally Posted by Gertner thank you Wadding

I wasn't defending you in any way. So you're not welcome.

oh i know your not "wink wink"

i would never use that arguement, that is ridiculous, but much as to a non fan of dance music, as a non fan of Rock,alt etc.... it all sounds the same, which btw you started with that arguement.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Gertner i would never use that arguement, that is ridiculous, but much as to a non fan of dance music, as a non fan of Rock,alt etc.... it all sounds the same, which btw you started with that arguement.

Except the difference is I actually have an ear for repetition vs nonrepetition. You're talking from the perspective of fan/non fan. I'm talking from the perspective of a critical ear. Sorry if that ruins your day.

Seriously though, I have an ear for progressions, structure, and tonality. You're trying to act like I'm just a hter, instead of someone with a critical ear. And you lose. Sorry.

Originally Posted by Kane Knight Except the difference is I actually have an ear for repetition vs nonrepetition. You're talking from the perspective of fan/non fan. I'm talking from the perspective of a critical ear. Sorry if that ruins your day. Seriously though, I have an ear for progressions, structure, and tonality. You're trying to act like I'm just a hter, instead of someone with a critical ear. And you lose. Sorry.

Kane I do some dj'in on the side(nothing major, just a hobby) and I'm Telling you there's a big difference. The reason I'm dimissing you in because you don't even know what trance is.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Gertner Kane I do some dj'in on the side(nothing major, just a hobby) and I'm Telling you there's a big difference. The reason I'm dimissing you in because you don't even know what trance is.

I did DJ work for over 5 years. Ontop of that, it wasn't on the side, it was a primary source of income.

And don't try and pussy out with "you don't know what trance is" like you're some sort of underground elite movement.

Next thing you're going to tell me is that I don't know what rap is.

Originally Posted by Kane Knight I did DJ work for over 5 years. Ontop of that, it wasn't on the side, it was a primary source of income. And don't try and pussy out with "you don't know what trance is" like you're some sort of underground elite movement. Next thing you're going to tell me is that I don't know what rap is.

so the only difference is that you got paid for it and i didn't.

and btw, trance isn't some underground elite movement. IMO it's become really cheesy as of late.

plus, I think this can help explain my position. Us fans of dance music ( not the posers who just go to shows for the drugs argh) are REALLY into this style of music and are very knowledgable about it. We attend shows regularly and know what we are talking about. To a person on the outside, of course it sounds the same. And i'm not saying you are a hater, I'm just upset that you assume I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to dance music, cause I live and breathe this genre. I'm not saying I'm a music excpert in teh least sense, but making dance music is not just as easy as twisting a few knobs and shit. And I'm not dismissing your musical background as it is pretty extensive. Check out armin van buuren's website and see his set-up. Many of the dj's have extensive musical backgrounds (the one's that actually make the music, not some shlub like myself)

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Gertner Check out armin van buuren's website and see his set-up. Many of the dj's have extensive musical backgrounds (the one's that actually make the music, not some shlub like myself)

Having an extensive music background doesn't validate your work. I've composed techno tracks for clubs in the area (because it was a paycheck, albeit a small one), but that doesn't mean I applied a huge amount of expertise. I simply popped some stuff into fruityloops, didn't take me much effort to compose, program or mix. And the beatiful thing is it took no performing talent (which is good, because my piano/keyboard skills are kind of SHIT)

Originally Posted by Kane Knight Having an extensive music background doesn't validate your work. I've composed techno tracks for clubs in the area (because it was a paycheck, albeit a small one), but that doesn't mean I applied a huge amount of expertise. I simply popped some stuff into fruityloops, didn't take me much effort to compose, program or mix. And the beatiful thing is it took no performing talent (which is good, because my piano/keyboard skills are kind of SHIT)

composing random techno tracks is nothing Kane. I can do that stuff on my computer in about 5-10 minutes. Creating beatuiful Progressive House songs that tell a story is another thing.

[DaveWadding]

U dnt kno wat rap iz, cain night

[DaveWadding]

u kant c my cain night

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by DaveWadding u kant c my cain night

How could I not see you? Short of the Great Wall of China, you're the most visible man made object from space.

creating the music does take alot of talent though, which is what the real ones do.

btw Kane, I think you are REALLY under-estimating how many people listen to dance music

[Ogen]

Well I likes my dance when I'm out I'm nowhere near as much knowledge as Gertner on the subject since I only started getting into since I was 18 and out clubbing. Its shite to say that it all sounds the same, it sounds the same as any other music sounds the same just the genre songs themselves aren't the same at all.

And yes I'd imagine most people I know would know Sandstorm it was a huge hit

yes, but when the artists put alot of effort into it, it becomes amazing stuff. As dance music fans we are alaways looking for something a little different, so the dj's continously have to create new sounds. Artists like Ferry Corsten have maintained their opularity because they are creative. A few years ago a Trance dj wouldn't have cracked the top 20 in the rankings, now at the top that's all there is. Like with all music, it's only as simple or as complex as you make it.