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Old 06-29-2005, 04:43 PM   #81
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Not sure if you are right about Torres. And I know Milan are a bigger club, but he isn't currently there so he won't know what he is missing out on really. The players you mentioned are already at big clubs, he isn't.

Saying that your boyfriend Carvalho didn't want to come to us, he wanted to go to Madrid and I honestly don't think he'd have come if we didn't have Jose but still tried to sign him.
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Old 06-29-2005, 04:47 PM   #82
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Apparently Parma are getting new owners so he won't be going anywhere for the time being.
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I bet he is, new owners or not, it will be a few years before they are potential Champions of Europe. He will wanna win the big stuff and not want to wait round.
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I dunno, these Italian lads are notoriously loyal to their teams. Guy's like Nesta, Cannavaro, Totti, Del Piero have hung around at their first clubs for season after season no matter what. Del Piero and Totti have been at their clubs their whole career, for instance, and Nesta only moved because Lazio had horrible financial problems. It still happens there that talented homegrown players stay at their clubs for as long as possible.
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Lots of Italians move between Italian clubs too though, you just picked out a few. And anyone at Milan or Juventus would be loyal to their team, they are the to biggest teams in Italy. Maldini and Baresi would have never played their whole career at one team if it wasn't one of the biggest in the world. I'd like to see those players stay at their clubs if they never won anything, even Roma were good for a couple of seasons, Le Tissier has proven his loyalty much better then any of the players you mentions
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I'm just saying I don't think it's automatic that Gilardino will want to leave Parma immediately. That's my point: Italian players don't seem in a hurry to leave their clubs, and they don't go abroad too often either, compared to other nationalities. Especially the top Italians.

I'd be surprised to see Gilardino at Chelsea next season.
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Fair enough, I am sure he will come though, we'll see.

But even if we didn't get him we will obviously get someone shit hot like Tevez or something, so in answer to what MMM said, we will obviously have enough strikers next season. Not to mention Robben can play there, if we got Wright-Phillips or Joaquin then we could mix it up a little
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If Lampard's deflected shots start going wide instead of in, you're fucked.
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As long as Duff, Cole, Robben and Drogba keep diving then he will notch up penalties, Huth can handle the free kicks (he scored for Germany yesterday but it weren't a free kick ) and Terry has corners covered.

Thing is people will now watch Lampard closer after the amount he notched up this season, I hope he starts shooting less and playing it out wide more. I swear he fucks up about 5 long shots for everyone he scores, not that I am complaining.
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also, glazer's sons were at old trafford tonight, and ended up barricaded in. Ended up having to get escorted out in a police van for their own safety.
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Wow, you little pussies, I bet none of them actually get harmed.
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Reports today seem to indicate that Parma have priced Milan out of a bid for Gilardino. That plus Parma's crippling debts seem to indicate Chelsea might be more likely than seemed previously.
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I'm just saying I don't think it's automatic that Gilardino will want to leave Parma immediately. That's my point: Italian players don't seem in a hurry to leave their clubs, and they don't go abroad too often either, compared to other nationalities. Especially the top Italians.

I'd be surprised to see Gilardino at Chelsea next season.
I wouldn't. He has been linked with moves from Parma for years now. It has to happen sometime.
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also, glazer's sons were at old trafford tonight, and ended up barricaded in. Ended up having to get escorted out in a police van for their own safety.
Seriously, Man United supporters club "fans" are a bunch of wankers. The Glazers haven't even been in the door 5 minutes and these tosspots are doing eveything they can to ruin our legacy. Why the fuck would you want us kicked out of Europe. I'm not happy the Glazers bought us but the fact is that they did. Might as well see what their plans are before we all start moaning and bitching.

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-Middlesbrough's new signing Emanuel Pogatetz could be ruled out of the club's UEFA Cup challenge after he was sent off playing for former club Spartak Moscow.

Pogatetz, on loan at Spartak from Bayer Leverkusen, was dismissed in his final game in Russia for a tackle on a Shikkin Yaroslavl player which resulted in his opponent suffering a double fracture of his leg.

The Russian Football Association on Thursday handed out a 24-week ban for Pogatetz as punishment.

The Premier League is not obliged to enforce the ban in England but UEFA may do so, ruling him out of Boro's European games.

-Dwight Yorke revealed he is ready to end his career in Australia on the day he officially signed for new club Sydney FC.

The former Manchester United, Aston Villa, Blackburn and Birmingham striker is Sydney's marquee player, with rules for the inaugural A-League allowing the eight clubs to sign one star name above the salary cap of £600,000.

-The rule where referees can move a freekick forward an extra 10 yards for dissent etc has been scrapped
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http://skysports.planetfootball.com/...&channel=italy



Gilardino deal not dead



Alberto Gilardino could yet complete his move to Milan, with the Rossoneri vice-president Adriano Galliani now playing down comments made by Silvio Berlusconi that appeared to signal the end of their pursuit of the Parma man.

Gilardino's exit from Gialloblu was anticipated after they avoided relegation to Serie B on the last day of the Italian season, with the club mired in financial troubles.

The 22-year-old is one of Italy's most feared strikers despite his tender age and, despite strong interest from Premiership champions Chelsea, had been widely expected to move to San Siro.

However the Italian prime minister, and Milan supremo, had insisted that the prospective new owners of Parma would not be inclined to let the sensational striker depart, and in any case were demanding too high a transfer fee for their attacking talisman.

To muddy the waters further Rossoneri vice-president Galliani has now insisted that Berlusconi's comments were merely his interpretation of the situation, and that Parma's new owners may well be open to selling their star hit-man.

"I've spoken with Berlusconi, who cleared up the sense of Friday's declaration," Galliani told Gazzetta dello Sport.

"Effectively Gilardino costs too much, but what the president said with reference to the next possible Parma owners keeping the striker, it's only his intuition and not an official position of which he knows.

"So Berlusconi doesn't know that Parma's next officials are against Gilardino's sale."

Galliani's comments appear to indicate that Milan are not content to drop their interest in the Italian international, particularly given Chelsea's ability to match any asking price. The Rossoneri remain in pole position for his signature given that Gilardino has previously indicated that his preference is to remain in Italy with Carlo Ancelotti's side.
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Seriously, Man United supporters club "fans" are a bunch of wankers. The Glazers haven't even been in the door 5 minutes and these tosspots are doing eveything they can to ruin our legacy. Why the fuck would you want us kicked out of Europe. I'm not happy the Glazers bought us but the fact is that they did. Might as well see what their plans are before we all start moaning and bitching.

And I have already invested money into FC United so it's easy to back both.
I couldn't agree more

And LOL at their plans to buy the club off Glazer in the future. Yeah I'm sure thats going to happen.
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it's not that hard to guess at their plans, cause it's not easy to see how you can repay £500m of debt with profits of 19m a year.
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Other clubs are in constant debt and still work well. Maybe they will boost profits through ways people haven't even though of. Maybe they don't care about making back the £500 million as quick as people seem to think. It's all ifs and buts right now.
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In other news, Inter gave Christian Vieri a free transfer.
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Apparently Spurs and Newcastle have both made enquiries for him

We're supposed to be signing Zenden and Mark Gonzalez, I have no problems with either, but it does make me fear for Luis Garcia's future
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Zenden is overrated, IMO. Problem is Liverpool can't really afford someone like SWP either, and for a freebie he is pretty good value. If Benitez had Chelsea or Man U's money, Liverpool would be unstoppable.
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I havent seen Vieri play in a few years, but fuck me we need a big name striker like that
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Well, looks like Gerrard is off

Its his fucking agents (SFX....who else?) they've clearly got into his head.

On Wednesday Gerrard's agents held talks with Rick Parry, and told him that Gerrard wanted some ridiculous amount of money to stay, Parry, foolishly, didn't say no, he just listened and said they'd continue talks in a few days

The Next Day, SFX turned up and told Parry that Liverpool basically had to accept the terms, because they knew they had offers from other clubs, and that Gerrard himself wanted away from the club, unless they gave him exactly what he wanted, Gerrard then started to claim that Liverpool wanted him out of the club, when in actual fact, they had prepared a contract which would've given him a 2-3 year extension for an extra 20 grand a week, basically giving him 100,000 a week.

The bust-up with Benitez came because Benitez wasn't prepared to play ball with agents like Houllier used to. Gerrard and Houllier were pretty much best friends, while Rafa has gone for the "I'm the boss, your the players" approach. Which is exactly the reason that Owen left last year. SFX (Owen's representatives.....are you seeing a pattern) came to Parry and said "He's got a year left on his contract..... WE WANT THIS, WE WANT THAT" etc..... so Rafa told Rick Parry that he didn't want agents getting in the way of building a team, and that if Owen really wanted to leave, then that was his choice.

Rafa and Gerrard had a discussion on Saturday about the talks. Gerrard told Benitez that he felt the club was trying to force him out, while Benitez told Gerrard that the club had prepared a contract for him, and it was down to him to sign it.

The story gets leaked to the press...... I'll give you one guess who the most likely people to have leaked this information were.

SFX told Liverpool on Sunday that Gerrard wanted to leave..... despite Gerrard claiming he wanted to sign a new contract.

Now, this is pretty much where we are at.

It seems that SFX have a vendetta against Rick Parry because he talked Gerrard into staying last year. They realise that they could make far more money if Gerrard left, and are trying to stick it to Parry, like the money grabbing bastards they are.

The problem lies at the moment in the fact that while SFX are tipping off the British media, Rafa is doing the exact same thing in the Spanish media, to try and warn off Real Madrid, and he's hoping that Gerrard wont be a backstabbing twat and sign for Chelsea or Man Utd.....basically leading to Gerrard staying.

Its a complicated saga at the moment, because I'm sure that Gerrard wants to stay at Liverpool. A player who is supposed to love his club as much as Gerrard does, does not want to leave "because contract talks aren't progressing" that is an utter bullshit excuse for someone who is Liverpool through and through. The only answer is that SFX have got in his ear somehow and are trying to force him out....basically for their own benefit. I don't think Liverpool want to sell him, I know for a fact that Rafa has stated on numerous occasions he wants to build the team around him, but at the end of the day, Liverpool are bigger than one player, and they wont be held to ransom by agents who are trying to make Liverpool out to be the bad guys, when its they who are the money grabbing jewish rip off merchants.
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Gerrard told a reporter to his face apparently that he wasn't looking for anything close to £100,000.
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Liverpool are better off rid of Gerrard if he doesn't fit in with Benitez' ethos. Benitez is more important to Liverpool, and the ridiculous fee Gerrard could command would probably better serve the side than his inconsistent performances and the constant circus over where he will be playing.
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Old 07-04-2005, 08:02 PM   #114
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Just to point out, to prove 100% that its all the agents doing, every paper has the EXACT same story AGAIN. Gerrard, £32 million, Chelsea.

Its a fucking joke, and to think they represent Carragher as well.

We will be better off without Gerrard, I just think its an utter disgrace that a player who supposedly loves the club is leaving in such a way
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Yeah, he's kinda pissed me off with that. He's making it apparent that he wants to leave and then he says that the club is forcing him out. If he wants to leave then leave now because we need to build the team up soon because our season starts soon.
He's been offered £100,000. 2 year contract extension which will give him a four year contract.
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Pompey tried to sell us a disabled person. Shame on you Owen.
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Gerrard's told BBC Sport that he wants to leave Liverpool. Unless it is a bust-up with Benitez then i don't see the point, he's won everything that you can win in England apart from the premiership, and Benitez is building towards achieving that.

Also, Vieri has gone to Milan.
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Liverpool are going to be fighting for 4th again this season. Gerrard has done all he can at Liverpool.

Time to move to Manchester
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Gerrard issued a statement saying how at first he wanted to stay at the club but now wants to leave because he doesn't want to go through a slanging match with his 'beloved' club.
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