NHL deal done - Page 3

**asphyXy** · 07-22-2005, 01:08 AM

NYR

**Zen v.W.o.** · 07-22-2005, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zelda

The bad news is that we will probably get stuck with Theo.

Why is that bad?

**YOUR Hero** · 07-22-2005, 02:33 AM

top 5 goalie

**Lara Emily** · 07-22-2005, 05:23 AM

Crosby goes to the Devils where he is then forced to play the trap and which results in him eventually becomes a low scoring defensemen.

He'll probably end up on a top team like Colorado or Detroit which will do two things: 1) It'll expose this draft system as the total farce that it is and 2) piss off almost every hockey fan left. (Fan of the team that lends him excluded naturally)

**Adder** · 07-22-2005, 11:56 AM

Lara, why do you call this draft system a farce?

**Lara Emily** · 07-22-2005, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adder

Lara, why do you call this draft system a farce?

The fact that teams like COlorado, Detroit, Toronto, New Jersey all have a have a chance of drafting anywhere near the first overall is ridiculous.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 07-22-2005, 02:01 PM

Yea this system of getting the 1st pick is like a terrible verison of the NBA draft lottery. Bad teams only get 3 balls while every other team gets 1 haha. Like a cracked out version or some shit

**The Gooch** · 07-22-2005, 02:20 PM

Agreed, but disagree. I can see teams that have been historically good losing a lot of players under this new salary cap system. Teams like Toronto, Detroit and Colorado have huge payrolls which they'll need to trim, so they may not be as competitive this upcoming season.

**MoRcHeEbA** · 07-22-2005, 02:38 PM

it's pretty much that most teams are probably gonna keep THREE top tier players if their lucky (minus the leafs cause for some gay reason people wanna play there) so pretty much every team is starting over from scratch so I don't mind if a good team gets Crosby.

**MoRcHeEbA** · 07-22-2005, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOUR Hero

top 5 goalie

Top 10

**Kapoutman** · 07-22-2005, 03:22 PM

Getting stuck with Theo is a bad thing because he is an overrated, overpaid piece of crap. He always gets out of his goal to catch the puck, and half the time, he misses the pass or gives it to the opposing team. He is always on his knees before the shot even arrives. He chokes under pressure. He is kept on the team because he is married to the sister of one of the biggest star in Quebec, so people love him, and he makes talk-show and even tries to sing. Ugh.

Theodore has had one good performance in the playoffs a couple of years ago, and ever since, people say he could be the savior of the team which is bullshit. He choked ever since, and we had a far superior goalie in Matthieu Garon, who if he was given the time, could have been better and more appreciated than Jose Theodore.

**The Gooch** · 07-22-2005, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapoutman

.....and we had a far superior goalie in Matthieu Garon, who if he was given the time, could have been better and more appreciated than Jose Theodore.

I can't argue with that statement.

**Zen v.W.o.** · 07-22-2005, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapoutman

Getting stuck with Theo is a bad thing because he is an overrated, overpaid piece of crap. He always gets out of his goal to catch the puck, and half the time, he misses the pass or gives it to the opposing team. He is always on his knees before the shot even arrives. He chokes under pressure. He is kept on the team because he is married to the sister of one of the biggest star in Quebec, so people love him, and he makes talk-show and even tries to sing. Ugh.

Theodore has had one good performance in the playoffs a couple of years ago, and ever since, people say he could be the savior of the team which is bullshit. He choked ever since, and we had a far superior goalie in Matthieu Garon, who if he was given the time, could have been better and more appreciated than Jose Theodore.

Holy moly you are way off. The fact is, the past 2 playoffs he hasn't choked under pressure at all. Just look at the series with the B's. Without him, we'd be toast. We were down 3 games to one. He helped us get to game 7, then he didnt allow one single goal in a high pressure game 7. Theo is easily one of the best goalies in this league. The fact he managed to play well with all the family crap he had going on shows you he is a big game player, and one who does not crack under pressure. And until Garon ever comes close to winning a vezina and an mvp award, then maybe you can mention him as being in Theo's level.
If Theo could be the Habs goalie for the next decade I wouldnt be upset about that.
And I dont even know who Theo's sister is actually.

**Zen v.W.o.** · 07-22-2005, 05:13 PM

haha, I'm actually nervous right now. Found it funny how the bolts won the cup and picked last, then the other florida team got the next one, and the flames and oil are right next to each other. Thank god the devils wont get him.

**Zelda** · 07-22-2005, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapoutman

Getting stuck with Theo is a bad thing because he is an overrated, overpaid piece of crap. He always gets out of his goal to catch the puck, and half the time, he misses the pass or gives it to the opposing team. He is always on his knees before the shot even arrives. He chokes under pressure. He is kept on the team because he is married to the sister of one of the biggest star in Quebec, so people love him, and he makes talk-show and even tries to sing. Ugh.

Theodore has had one good performance in the playoffs a couple of years ago, and ever since, people say he could be the savior of the team which is bullshit. He choked ever since, and we had a far superior goalie in Matthieu Garon, who if he was given the time, could have been better and more appreciated than Jose Theodore.

We are made to each other.

Garon > Theo

**Kapoutman** · 07-22-2005, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o.

Holy moly you are way off. The fact is, the past 2 playoffs he hasn't choked under pressure at all. Just look at the series with the B's. Without him, we'd be toast. We were down 3 games to one. He helped us get to game 7, then he didnt allow one single goal in a high pressure game 7. Theo is easily one of the best goalies in this league. The fact he managed to play well with all the family crap he had going on shows you he is a big game player, and one who does not crack under pressure. And until Garon ever comes close to winning a vezina and an mvp award, then maybe you can mention him as being in Theo's level.
If Theo could be the Habs goalie for the next decade I wouldnt be upset about that.
And I dont even know who Theo's sister is actually.

Theodore was choking against Boston, and he did choke against Tampa. He choked for the last two playoffs. It was Koivu, Kovalev, Ryder and Ribeiro that saved us. Theodore hasn't done a good thing since winning his Vezina.

**Zen v.W.o.** · 07-22-2005, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapoutman

Theodore was choking against Boston, and he did choke against Tampa. He choked for the last two playoffs. It was Koivu, Kovalev, Ryder and Ribeiro that saved us. Theodore hasn't done a good thing since winning his Vezina.

Ribeiro sucked in the playoffs, and his actions, with the fake diving and shit almost cost us. I'd get rid of that little pansy.
Theodore did not choke against the B's, cuz if he did, we would have not made the second round, plain as. As for choking against TB, they were better than us, that's just a fact. You dont choke against the top ranked team in the conference. Come on man, you cant show how biased you are being this badly.

**Adder** · 07-22-2005, 07:39 PM

Lots of team choked against Tampa then I guess. CALGARY CHOKED!!

Litle bit out of like Kapoutman

**Kapoutman** · 07-23-2005, 12:03 AM

All right. I'll admit I exxagerated on the "choking against Tampa" stuff, but he did choke against Boston. Have you watched TV or read the papers during the playoffs? Everybody was trying to find reasons why he sucked. "Maybe it's his family life", "Maybe it's the trade rumours" and so on. The bottom line is he did suck. I don't like his style, and we could find about 15 better goalies in the NHL at this moment.

**Zen v.W.o.** · 07-23-2005, 12:08 AM

He didn't suck. In the first couple of games people were making mention that he wasn't as sharp as he was 2 years before against the B's, and that is true. But then he started picking it up, and they ripped through the B's. The B's still took lots of shots on goal, yet they couldnt put the puck in the net.
I dare you to name 15 better goalies. If he sucked, we wouldnt have made it to game 7.
Watch, he'll be great again this season, and then he'll still be over-rated?

**MoRcHeEbA** · 07-23-2005, 12:46 AM

I can name 9

**Zen v.W.o.** · 07-23-2005, 02:30 AM

I can name 2 immediately better than him, and about 5 on his level.

**KleptoKlown** · 07-23-2005, 01:39 PM

The new deal is already starting to take effect...

Flyers bought out John Leclair and Tony Amonte today, making them both free agents.

I BET THE LEAFS WILL SIGN BOTH!!!!111

**YOUR Hero** · 07-23-2005, 03:08 PM

Yeah, I was gonna mention the LeClair/Amonte thing. This is going to be a busy time.

**YOUR Hero** · 07-23-2005, 03:11 PM

Crosby, Malkin, Andre-Fleury

Pretty solid youngsters for Pittsburg to groom.

**YOUR Hero** · 07-28-2005, 11:22 PM

et tu brute?

Goodenow wanted to stay on but players' committee opted to go with Saskin

TORONTO (CP) - Bob Goodenow resigned as executive director of the NHL Players' Association nearly three years before he'd planned.

It wasn't his idea. He stepped aside Thursday, diplomatically and with a lot of class, at the suggestion of the executive committee headed by president Trevor Linden. Ted Saskin, the licensing whiz who was Goodenow's right-hand man, takes over. The committee felt that, with the new six-year collective bargaining agreement coming into play after the season-long lockout, it would be better to make the change now.

"I agreed with that," Goodenow explained. "I said, 'That's fine with me."'

Goodenow had previously told the committee he wouldn't be continuing past the expiration of his current contract, which had nearly three years to go at a reported $2.5 million US a year. Just a week ago, after the membership ratified the new collective bargaining agreement, he said he loved the work and wanted to stay in the job he started in 1990.

"After talking to the players, I said, 'You know, it makes a lot of sense to make the change now rather than wait eight months or something like that,"' he said. "We were uniquely positioned to have someone like Ted to step in.

"He's been working at the players' association for 15 years or so, he knows the operation, he knows the collective bargaining agreement well, so it's a perfect match and perfect timing rather than trying to do something in midstream.

"It makes perfectly good sense. I don't have any problem with the way things have gone at all."

There was always going to be a transition, he said. The process was merely accelerated.

"There's the old saying, that when it feels good and it looks good, go ahead and do it, and that's what we've done," he said.

The hard-nosed Michigan lawyer lined the players' pockets. They earned an average of $270,000 when he took the reins of a feeble organization that had only two full-time employees during the messy departure of Alan Eagleson. Players were averaging nearly $1.8 million before the lockout, when the gravy train crashed. Through it all, the PA became a well-oiled corporation - thanks in large part to the genius of Saskin.

Salary disclosure was as a tenet of his administration but nobody would disclose a dollar figure on the Goodenow settlement. Numbers are still being juggled, the Montreal-born Saskin said.

"What we've worked out is an accommodation that's satisfactory to everyone," said Goodenow.

The new labour deal isn't what Goodenow envisioned. He'd sworn to oppose a salary cap for as long as it took. He perhaps misjudged the owners' resolve. But the players wanted to get back onto the ice and since the agreement was reached - even though his body language last week seemed to indicate the new deal was personally distasteful to him - Goodenow has toed the party line.

"The agreement can work and it will work with everybody co-operating," he said Thursday.

It was Saskin who was at the PA forefront in finalizing the new agreement. Goodenow appeared close to tears when he explained how a personal matter had taken him away from the process at one point.

"My mother passed away last week and I had some days where I was preoccupied," he said.

Goodenow said he has no immediate plans.

"I'm going to take a few months off and think about what I might want to do in the future," he said. "I really haven't given it any thought."

Linden spoke warmly of Goodenow in an NHLPA statement.

"Every NHL player has benefited enormously from Bob's leadership and dedication," said Linden. "He has been a tireless advocate for the players and he dramatically improved the players' situation in every respect.

"Bob built the NHLPA into a first-class organization and we are all very grateful to him."

He also praised Saskin.

"Ted has worked closely with Bob every step of the way and has done an excellent job for the players in our recently concluded CBA negotiations. We have every confidence that he will be able to lead our association well in the years to come."

Committee member Vincent Damphousse called Saskin "a superstar, something that I really discovered this year during the negotiations."

"He's perfect for the job," said Damphousse.

The decision for Goodenow to go was mutual, he added.

"I don't want to take anything from Bob," he said. "He's helped me earn a lot more than I ever expected, but we had to take a decision going forward and Bob had to make a decision and I think it was mutual that it was time to go our separate ways and bring a guy in that was really involved in this deal."

Both of the lead negotiators in the labour deal have now been promoted: Saskin, and Bill Daly, who has been named deputy NHL commissioner.

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman issued a statement following Goodenow's surprise departure: "I have always respected Bob's tenacity, passion and professionalism, and I wish him well in his future endeavours. We congratulate Ted and look forward to working with him."

Goodenow thanked the players and others employed in the sport as he made his exit. He said the staff at NHLPA headquarters is so capable that it would win the Stanley Cup if it were awarded to office personnel.

A new day dawns.

"We've already mended the fences," New York Rangers GM Glen Sather said of the future NHL-NHLPA relationship. "The players and the NHL have made a deal that we're all happy with and we're all going to live with.

"It's a partnership and we're going to work together to make the game grow and make it more appealing to the fans and to the players and the owners. It is a genuine partnership."

**KleptoKlown** · 07-29-2005, 05:07 AM

He's the main reason we lost the whole year. Saskin is a lot more in tune with the finacial problems the nhl has I think.

**YOUR Hero** · 07-29-2005, 11:06 AM

He represented the player's desires. He did what they asked him to do. The problem of course is that he is/was a player agent and I believe there's an underlying conflict there that possibly clouded his judgement. IN the end however, while Saskin will be the better man (presumably) for this job, the players hung Goodenow out to dry. LOL BTW

**KleptoKlown** · 07-29-2005, 04:08 PM

Goodenow represented the Jagrs and Sakics of the NHL. He wasnt about the lesser players, who or course far outnumber the guys making 8+ million a year. No one knows the exact offer that was made by the owner to try and save the season at the beggining of the year, but im pretty sure it was a lot better than what the players got. If Goodenow would have put it to a player vote, im sure it would have been accepted. He held out for something that was unrealistic, and it cost him his job.

**Zen v.W.o.** · 07-29-2005, 04:12 PM

I would love to see Bryan McCabe deliver on his promise, that if the NHL works under a cap, he'd never agree to it and quit. "I will not play under a cap system." Well idiot, retire now.

**MoRcHeEbA** · 07-29-2005, 07:43 PM

lol, Thornton pretty much has told Boston to go fuck themselves... turned down a huge 5 year deal and says this will forsure be his last year there since they can go to arbitration with him.

**KleptoKlown** · 07-29-2005, 08:57 PM

Yash:

"fuck thorton"

**Y2Ant** · 07-29-2005, 09:18 PM

Ducks re-sign Ozolinsh

lol though, we traded the pick Tampa gave us for Prospal to Philly for Todd Fedoruk, woooo awesome trade, enforcers will win us the stanley cup

**Zen v.W.o.** · 07-29-2005, 09:40 PM

Well you had a pussy team. You need some muscle on that roster. Fuck Garrett Burnett.

07-30-2005, 04:00 PM

Leafs get Jeff O'neill!!!

**MoRcHeEbA** · 07-30-2005, 04:03 PM

SHINE UP THE CUP FOR THE LEAFS... trading away a first rounder next year for O'Neil

**MoRcHeEbA** · 07-30-2005, 04:04 PM

also wtf is up with teams drafting goalies anymore... there is basically NO point... goalies don't usually hit their prime till they like 26-30 and they are allowed to leave at 25.. lots of teams gonna get jewed out.

**KleptoKlown** · 07-30-2005, 05:09 PM

if you happen to get someone like luongo, then you're laughing.

but yeah, not often do you find a goalie that tears things up when he still has "teen" in his age.

**KleptoKlown** · 07-30-2005, 05:10 PM

O'Niel for the Maple Laughs is actually going to work pretty good. He'll have a better supporting cast than he did in Carolina. ALways thought he was underrated. But the leafs still have enough shit to hold them back from doing anything significant

**KleptoKlown** · 07-30-2005, 05:30 PM

also, where did you get a 1st rounder from cheeba? Im reading it as a 4th rounder.

07-22-2005, 01:08 AM	#81
asphyXy Chill out, dickwad. Posts: 17,219	NYR

07-22-2005, 02:33 AM	#83
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	top 5 goalie

07-22-2005, 05:23 AM	#84
Lara Emily Hey Posts: 15,664	Crosby goes to the Devils where he is then forced to play the trap and which results in him eventually becomes a low scoring defensemen. He'll probably end up on a top team like Colorado or Detroit which will do two things: 1) It'll expose this draft system as the total farce that it is and 2) piss off almost every hockey fan left. (Fan of the team that lends him excluded naturally)

07-22-2005, 11:56 AM	#85
Adder A.W.O.L. Posts: 5,862	Lara, why do you call this draft system a farce?

07-22-2005, 02:01 PM	#87
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Yea this system of getting the 1st pick is like a terrible verison of the NBA draft lottery. Bad teams only get 3 balls while every other team gets 1 haha. Like a cracked out version or some shit

07-22-2005, 02:20 PM	#88
The Gooch Enlarged Member Posts: 2,070	Agreed, but disagree. I can see teams that have been historically good losing a lot of players under this new salary cap system. Teams like Toronto, Detroit and Colorado have huge payrolls which they'll need to trim, so they may not be as competitive this upcoming season.

07-22-2005, 02:38 PM	#89
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	it's pretty much that most teams are probably gonna keep THREE top tier players if their lucky (minus the leafs cause for some gay reason people wanna play there) so pretty much every team is starting over from scratch so I don't mind if a good team gets Crosby.

07-22-2005, 03:22 PM	#91
Kapoutman Hockey Superstar Posts: 11,381	Getting stuck with Theo is a bad thing because he is an overrated, overpaid piece of crap. He always gets out of his goal to catch the puck, and half the time, he misses the pass or gives it to the opposing team. He is always on his knees before the shot even arrives. He chokes under pressure. He is kept on the team because he is married to the sister of one of the biggest star in Quebec, so people love him, and he makes talk-show and even tries to sing. Ugh. Theodore has had one good performance in the playoffs a couple of years ago, and ever since, people say he could be the savior of the team which is bullshit. He choked ever since, and we had a far superior goalie in Matthieu Garon, who if he was given the time, could have been better and more appreciated than Jose Theodore.

07-22-2005, 05:13 PM	#94
Zen v.W.o. GO HABS GO! Posts: 4,018	haha, I'm actually nervous right now. Found it funny how the bolts won the cup and picked last, then the other florida team got the next one, and the flames and oil are right next to each other. Thank god the devils wont get him.

07-22-2005, 07:39 PM	#98
Adder A.W.O.L. Posts: 5,862	Lots of team choked against Tampa then I guess. CALGARY CHOKED!! Litle bit out of like Kapoutman

07-23-2005, 12:03 AM	#99
Kapoutman Hockey Superstar Posts: 11,381	All right. I'll admit I exxagerated on the "choking against Tampa" stuff, but he did choke against Boston. Have you watched TV or read the papers during the playoffs? Everybody was trying to find reasons why he sucked. "Maybe it's his family life", "Maybe it's the trade rumours" and so on. The bottom line is he did suck. I don't like his style, and we could find about 15 better goalies in the NHL at this moment.

07-23-2005, 12:08 AM	#100
Zen v.W.o. GO HABS GO! Posts: 4,018	He didn't suck. In the first couple of games people were making mention that he wasn't as sharp as he was 2 years before against the B's, and that is true. But then he started picking it up, and they ripped through the B's. The B's still took lots of shots on goal, yet they couldnt put the puck in the net. I dare you to name 15 better goalies. If he sucked, we wouldnt have made it to game 7. Watch, he'll be great again this season, and then he'll still be over-rated?

07-23-2005, 12:46 AM	#101
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	I can name 9

07-23-2005, 02:30 AM	#102
Zen v.W.o. GO HABS GO! Posts: 4,018	I can name 2 immediately better than him, and about 5 on his level.

07-23-2005, 01:39 PM	#103
KleptoKlown You're a Fucken Samsquach Posts: 21,739	The new deal is already starting to take effect... Flyers bought out John Leclair and Tony Amonte today, making them both free agents. I BET THE LEAFS WILL SIGN BOTH!!!!111

07-23-2005, 03:08 PM	#104
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	Yeah, I was gonna mention the LeClair/Amonte thing. This is going to be a busy time.

07-23-2005, 03:11 PM	#105
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	Crosby, Malkin, Andre-Fleury Pretty solid youngsters for Pittsburg to groom.

07-28-2005, 11:22 PM	#106
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	et tu brute? Goodenow wanted to stay on but players' committee opted to go with Saskin TORONTO (CP) - Bob Goodenow resigned as executive director of the NHL Players' Association nearly three years before he'd planned. It wasn't his idea. He stepped aside Thursday, diplomatically and with a lot of class, at the suggestion of the executive committee headed by president Trevor Linden. Ted Saskin, the licensing whiz who was Goodenow's right-hand man, takes over. The committee felt that, with the new six-year collective bargaining agreement coming into play after the season-long lockout, it would be better to make the change now. "I agreed with that," Goodenow explained. "I said, 'That's fine with me."' Goodenow had previously told the committee he wouldn't be continuing past the expiration of his current contract, which had nearly three years to go at a reported $2.5 million US a year. Just a week ago, after the membership ratified the new collective bargaining agreement, he said he loved the work and wanted to stay in the job he started in 1990. "After talking to the players, I said, 'You know, it makes a lot of sense to make the change now rather than wait eight months or something like that,"' he said. "We were uniquely positioned to have someone like Ted to step in. "He's been working at the players' association for 15 years or so, he knows the operation, he knows the collective bargaining agreement well, so it's a perfect match and perfect timing rather than trying to do something in midstream. "It makes perfectly good sense. I don't have any problem with the way things have gone at all." There was always going to be a transition, he said. The process was merely accelerated. "There's the old saying, that when it feels good and it looks good, go ahead and do it, and that's what we've done," he said. The hard-nosed Michigan lawyer lined the players' pockets. They earned an average of $270,000 when he took the reins of a feeble organization that had only two full-time employees during the messy departure of Alan Eagleson. Players were averaging nearly $1.8 million before the lockout, when the gravy train crashed. Through it all, the PA became a well-oiled corporation - thanks in large part to the genius of Saskin. Salary disclosure was as a tenet of his administration but nobody would disclose a dollar figure on the Goodenow settlement. Numbers are still being juggled, the Montreal-born Saskin said. "What we've worked out is an accommodation that's satisfactory to everyone," said Goodenow. The new labour deal isn't what Goodenow envisioned. He'd sworn to oppose a salary cap for as long as it took. He perhaps misjudged the owners' resolve. But the players wanted to get back onto the ice and since the agreement was reached - even though his body language last week seemed to indicate the new deal was personally distasteful to him - Goodenow has toed the party line. "The agreement can work and it will work with everybody co-operating," he said Thursday. It was Saskin who was at the PA forefront in finalizing the new agreement. Goodenow appeared close to tears when he explained how a personal matter had taken him away from the process at one point. "My mother passed away last week and I had some days where I was preoccupied," he said. Goodenow said he has no immediate plans. "I'm going to take a few months off and think about what I might want to do in the future," he said. "I really haven't given it any thought." Linden spoke warmly of Goodenow in an NHLPA statement. "Every NHL player has benefited enormously from Bob's leadership and dedication," said Linden. "He has been a tireless advocate for the players and he dramatically improved the players' situation in every respect. "Bob built the NHLPA into a first-class organization and we are all very grateful to him." He also praised Saskin. "Ted has worked closely with Bob every step of the way and has done an excellent job for the players in our recently concluded CBA negotiations. We have every confidence that he will be able to lead our association well in the years to come." Committee member Vincent Damphousse called Saskin "a superstar, something that I really discovered this year during the negotiations." "He's perfect for the job," said Damphousse. The decision for Goodenow to go was mutual, he added. "I don't want to take anything from Bob," he said. "He's helped me earn a lot more than I ever expected, but we had to take a decision going forward and Bob had to make a decision and I think it was mutual that it was time to go our separate ways and bring a guy in that was really involved in this deal." Both of the lead negotiators in the labour deal have now been promoted: Saskin, and Bill Daly, who has been named deputy NHL commissioner. NHL commissioner Gary Bettman issued a statement following Goodenow's surprise departure: "I have always respected Bob's tenacity, passion and professionalism, and I wish him well in his future endeavours. We congratulate Ted and look forward to working with him." Goodenow thanked the players and others employed in the sport as he made his exit. He said the staff at NHLPA headquarters is so capable that it would win the Stanley Cup if it were awarded to office personnel. A new day dawns. "We've already mended the fences," New York Rangers GM Glen Sather said of the future NHL-NHLPA relationship. "The players and the NHL have made a deal that we're all happy with and we're all going to live with. "It's a partnership and we're going to work together to make the game grow and make it more appealing to the fans and to the players and the owners. It is a genuine partnership."

07-29-2005, 05:07 AM	#107
KleptoKlown You're a Fucken Samsquach Posts: 21,739	He's the main reason we lost the whole year. Saskin is a lot more in tune with the finacial problems the nhl has I think.

07-29-2005, 11:06 AM	#108
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	He represented the player's desires. He did what they asked him to do. The problem of course is that he is/was a player agent and I believe there's an underlying conflict there that possibly clouded his judgement. IN the end however, while Saskin will be the better man (presumably) for this job, the players hung Goodenow out to dry. LOL BTW

07-29-2005, 04:08 PM	#109
KleptoKlown You're a Fucken Samsquach Posts: 21,739	Goodenow represented the Jagrs and Sakics of the NHL. He wasnt about the lesser players, who or course far outnumber the guys making 8+ million a year. No one knows the exact offer that was made by the owner to try and save the season at the beggining of the year, but im pretty sure it was a lot better than what the players got. If Goodenow would have put it to a player vote, im sure it would have been accepted. He held out for something that was unrealistic, and it cost him his job.

07-29-2005, 04:12 PM	#110
Zen v.W.o. GO HABS GO! Posts: 4,018	I would love to see Bryan McCabe deliver on his promise, that if the NHL works under a cap, he'd never agree to it and quit. "I will not play under a cap system." Well idiot, retire now.

07-29-2005, 07:43 PM	#111
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	lol, Thornton pretty much has told Boston to go fuck themselves... turned down a huge 5 year deal and says this will forsure be his last year there since they can go to arbitration with him.

07-29-2005, 08:57 PM	#112
KleptoKlown You're a Fucken Samsquach Posts: 21,739	Yash: "fuck thorton"

07-29-2005, 09:18 PM	#113
Y2Ant Crows Before Hoes Posts: 24,501	Ducks re-sign Ozolinsh lol though, we traded the pick Tampa gave us for Prospal to Philly for Todd Fedoruk, woooo awesome trade, enforcers will win us the stanley cup

07-29-2005, 09:40 PM	#114
Zen v.W.o. GO HABS GO! Posts: 4,018	Well you had a pussy team. You need some muscle on that roster. Fuck Garrett Burnett.

07-30-2005, 04:00 PM	#115
Gertner Guest Posts: n/a	Leafs get Jeff O'neill!!!

07-30-2005, 04:03 PM	#116
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	SHINE UP THE CUP FOR THE LEAFS... trading away a first rounder next year for O'Neil

07-30-2005, 04:04 PM	#117
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	also wtf is up with teams drafting goalies anymore... there is basically NO point... goalies don't usually hit their prime till they like 26-30 and they are allowed to leave at 25.. lots of teams gonna get jewed out.

07-30-2005, 05:09 PM	#118
KleptoKlown You're a Fucken Samsquach Posts: 21,739	if you happen to get someone like luongo, then you're laughing. but yeah, not often do you find a goalie that tears things up when he still has "teen" in his age.