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Old 10-04-2005, 11:44 PM   #1
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Actually RoadWarrior...he doesn't even own 49%. He owns x amount of the stock of the company, which is kind of pointless as they have no intentions of taking TNA public anytime soon...but his percent isn't even enough to warrent control. I think for most companies if you have 20% stock in a company you have some for of control over the product, and I know for a fact that Jerry doesn't even have that much.
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Old 10-04-2005, 11:54 PM   #2
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did'nt know that
all i knew was the details of when the deal first went down
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Old 10-05-2005, 12:22 AM   #3
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The One, your points are very valid, but might I suggest Vince considers TNA a potential future threat and all his lawsuits are meant, not only to protect his own property (Dudleyz, which he obviously created and came up with, and Superstars, which is such an original term that only he could have possibly coined), but also to make sure that TNA stays where it is: a .8-rated program deep into the Saturday late-night slot on his former network. He doesn't consider TNA a threat, but he considers it a possible threat if he doesn't clamp down on them soon enough.

Now, sure, Team 3-D made just as much of a splash as The Dudley Boyz would have, but you've got to admit that Vince seems to be taking preventative measures, no?
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Old 10-06-2005, 08:05 PM   #4
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The One, your points are very valid, but might I suggest Vince considers TNA a potential future threat and all his lawsuits are meant, not only to protect his own property (Dudleyz, which he obviously created and came up with, and Superstars, which is such an original term that only he could have possibly coined), but also to make sure that TNA stays where it is: a .8-rated program deep into the Saturday late-night slot on his former network. He doesn't consider TNA a threat, but he considers it a possible threat if he doesn't clamp down on them soon enough.

Now, sure, Team 3-D made just as much of a splash as The Dudley Boyz would have, but you've got to admit that Vince seems to be taking preventative measures, no?
I can see where you are coming from in the idea that TNA is gaining traction and it is a form of Pro Wrestling, but I still don't think Vince has any fear of TNA. Vince McMahon never feared ECW, he admits maybe he should have but the idea of it never crossed his mind. It didn't because WWE has been about the show more then wrestling for over 2 decades now. TNA (much like ECW, but in a different form) is all about what happens in the ring. TNA's corner stone is the X-Division, ECW's was Hardcore Wrestling...WWE is gimmicks and storyline. If you are a die hard fan of WWE (and there are still some) you probably fall in love with storylines and gimmicks. Now Vince McMahon knew about, and even liked some of ECW's work, and while we are on it, ECW on TNN scored an average of about .1 more then TNA's debut. Their PPV buyrates were WAY higher then TNA's so far. Sure Vince knows they are around, but they are going for in ring wrestling fans, Vince is going for people with $20 to buy a t-shirt fans. Totally different type feel. Totally different brand. I doubt as though Vince is worried even if they get big, there is still plunty of market for both to succeed. I trust that Vince's moto is so long as TNA doesn't have a star he wants, he won't care to pay attention to them.

Though if you have further thoughts, please share...as I do enjoy listening to other people's views on the topic.

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Jesus, The One's post alone makes this thread worthy of being in the Archives. That is, of course, if the Casual World Order ever allowed wrestling threads to be archived.
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:24 AM   #6
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Personally....I still thing the Observer is being full of shit with this one. Nothing has came up anywhere else regarding this so far.

I'm calling bullshit on this one.
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Old 10-05-2005, 02:12 AM   #7
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After seeing people bitch back and forth about Does Vince fear TNA, this person is a jackass, Jerry owns TNA, my ego hurts, I believe one thing needs to be said, and it needs to be said soon. In regards to Vince and TNA, until we can read his mind we won't know if he fears TNA. With Jerry owning TNA, I don't know and I couldn't care less in all honesty. When it comes to people bitching back and forth...






















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Old 10-06-2005, 05:03 AM   #9
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Wow! In all my years this is the first thread I started that got:

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Old 10-06-2005, 09:46 AM   #10
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Panda Energy / The Carter family owns 75% of TNA. Also, Dixie Carter herself has stated that WWE is like Coke, and her vision is to make TNA a Pepsi. TNA imo is going down the WCW route of southern style rasslin, x division, and storyline that fuses the two together.

I don't think Vince fears TNA, but he just wants to prevent them from ever becoming big. He knows how it feels to have a tough competiter breathing down your neck at all times, and I'm sure he never wants to re-live those days again.

As far as superstars go, Vince is being absolutely ridiculous now.Vince
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:34 PM   #13
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I don't think Vince fears TNA, but he just wants to prevent them from ever becoming big.
Very valid point, and just what I was stating. Just preventative measures, I say.

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He knows how it feels to have a tough competiter breathing down your neck at all times, and I'm sure he never wants to re-live those days again.
Now I wouldn't go that far. Vince likes power. He likes being in control. It's not like he wouldn't want the competition. But he's become too complacent being the only nationwide wrestling organization to be any good. Vince is simply swatting the fly that might otherwise bite him in the ass.

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Wether Vince considers TNA a legitimate threat at the current time is probably only known to Vince himself. Just because he's giving them a hard time at their start doesn't mean jack other than he's rattling their cage to see how they react under pressure.

And yes, TNA may be a major competitor down the road, but they probably aren't right now. Testing them with this "Superstars" thing is like any other legal matter, petty or otherwise: it's business. If something looks like it may become a threat - wether it is now or not - you stop it before it can hurt you. Hell, people die from the flu. That's why God made Robitussen.
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Wether Vince considers TNA a legitimate threat at the current time is probably only known to Vince himself. Just because he's giving them a hard time at their start doesn't mean jack other than he's rattling their cage to see how they react under pressure.

And yes, TNA may be a major competitor down the road, but they probably aren't right now. Testing them with this "Superstars" thing is like any other legal matter, petty or otherwise: it's business. If something looks like it may become a threat - wether it is now or not - you stop it before it can hurt you. Hell, people die from the flu. That's why God made Robitussen.

Well said.
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Wether Vince considers TNA a legitimate threat at the current time is probably only known to Vince himself. Just because he's giving them a hard time at their start doesn't mean jack other than he's rattling their cage to see how they react under pressure.

And yes, TNA may be a major competitor down the road, but they probably aren't right now. Testing them with this "Superstars" thing is like any other legal matter, petty or otherwise: it's business. If something looks like it may become a threat - wether it is now or not - you stop it before it can hurt you. Hell, people die from the flu. That's why God made Robitussen.

Well said. That's the first legitimate, sensible rationale I can see for all this spectacularly retarded foolishness.
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Old 10-09-2005, 05:59 AM   #17
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watching impact last night I have to say I found Bubba's response to Vince pretty funny. For those who didn't see it on the back of his shirt it said trade mark this with a middle finger.
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