MLB 2005-2006 Offseason Thread - Page 3

**Evil Vito** · 10-21-2005, 04:30 PM

Also, it's official: Leo Mazzone is the new Orioles pitching coach

As a Mets fan, I say with caution to the other AL East teams: watch out, those jobbers pitchers they pick up are gonna magically turn out great

**VonErich Lives** · 10-21-2005, 05:55 PM

yeah, forgot to mention Wells.

He was bitching that he can't go out w/o people reconsizing him. Hmm, guess he never had that problem in NY? I think it was more the year in SD, more laid back, plus his home is there.

He should get something, he is 43, but still decent and only has a base of like 2.5mil.

**The Miz** · 10-22-2005, 05:13 PM

He says he wants to go back West. SD and SF are probably the most likely candidates, Dodgers too maybe. He is perfect for SF because he is old, washed up, and fat.

Oakland and LAAA, no.

**VonErich Lives** · 10-22-2005, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

He says he wants to go back West. SD and SF are probably the most likely candidates, Dodgers too maybe. He is perfect for SF because he is old, washed up, and fat.

Oakland and LAAA, no.

Yeah, my bet is back to SD, that's where his home is.

Unless he goes to LAAA as part of a deal to send Manny there... Since that's where he wants to go.

**OssMan** · 10-22-2005, 08:06 PM

woooo mazzone

**The Miz** · 10-22-2005, 08:06 PM

The Braves got King Felix's older brother for Mazzone

**YOUR Hero** · 10-23-2005, 12:02 AM

Why would they break up Cox/Mazzone?

**The Outlaw** · 10-24-2005, 01:36 AM

Yeah I'm pretty disappointed that he's gone. He said he was perfectly happy here and didn't want to go anywhere else.

**The Miz** · 10-27-2005, 04:48 PM

Teams have from today until Nov. 10 to re-sign their players before they become anybody's game. First one to re-sign today was Mike DeJean with the Rockies

**VonErich Lives** · 10-27-2005, 05:22 PM

No one seems to know on Theo.

One is he's going to re-sign for 1.4mil a year, because lucchino makes 1.5mil (salary, not ownership rights) and Lucchino wont let Theo make more then him.

There's also talk he's going, but a team would have to scoop him quick to have him in place to handle this years off-season moves.

Theo's case: You offered Bill Bean like 2.5mil to come here (actually, I think Bean had signed and technically for 24hrs was the sox gm) and Bean hasn't won a World Series. On the flip side, I have, so if you're going to give 2.5mil to a guy that never won a WS, then you should give me near the same since I won the WS.

Also, their is rumor that Theo wants more control and to report to Henry not Lucchino.

**The Miz** · 10-27-2005, 10:44 PM

Peter Gammons reports,

Oakland gets:
RP Aaron Heilman
OF Lastings Milledge (AA)

NYM gets:
SP Barry Zito

Wow. If it goes through it doesn't really make sense for Oakland. Milledge has no use to them. They have tons of OF prospects and they need a big bat that is ready to play everyday in 2006. My guess is they would immediately trade Milledge and other prospects for someone like Dunn. As for Heilman, I dunno, NL relievers are generally bad pickups. But he can't be any worse than Yabu.

A more sensible trade (for Oakland) would be Zito for Heilman, Yusmeiro Petit, and Victor Diaz.

**The Miz** · 10-27-2005, 10:51 PM

Also Ms declined Guardados option. Awesome. Good job letting him walk instead of tarding him in June. I love you, Bavasi.

**CNM** · 10-28-2005, 03:28 AM

Heilman was a stud towards the end of the year. He could join the rotation and take Zito's spot.

**Joey Slugs** · 10-28-2005, 03:45 AM

Tuesday, October 25
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Boston		Clock ticking on Red Sox Oct 25 - The Boston Herald reports that Red Sox management and GM Theo Epstein remain apart in contract talks. Epstein's present contract that pays him $1 million per year will expire on Oct. 31. He is believed to be seeking much more money, while the Red Sox are said to be offering far less than what he wants. The Herald reports Epstein could leave the industry altogether if he doesn't re-sign with the Red Sox as he has a law degree and connections in the entertainment, business and political arenas.
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
New York		Cashing in? Oct 25 - According to the New York Post, Yankees GM Brian Cashman appears to be leaning toward staying with the team. Cashman, whose current contract with the Yankees expires on Oct. 31, has reportedly been mulling over the decision of whether or not to remain with the Yanks ever since they lost to the Angels in the Division Series. The Post reports Cashman's new contract could be in the area of $10 million for four years.
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Chicago		Tribune selling Cubs? Oct 25 - According to the Arlington Daily Herald, the Tribune Co. (whose stock is in the dumps) may be considering a sale of its non-core assets such as the Cubs. That's the speculation of one the Tribune's top-five investors, Chicago-based investment firm Ariel Capital Management. "If their stock gets into the $20s, I think their management would have to look to sell non-strategic assets, including the Cubs," John Miller, senior vice president of portfolio management at Ariel, told the newspaper. Ariel holds 10 million shares of Tribune stock, which settled up 46 cents on Monday at $31.37. Its 52-week high is $44.32.

**BCWWF** · 10-28-2005, 03:46 AM

Everyday Eddie

**The Miz** · 10-28-2005, 11:12 PM

USA Today says an AL-playoff outfielder tested positive for roids but is appelaing. Possibilities are:

Podsednik
Dye
Rowand
Vlad
Finley

DaVanon
Anderson
Manny
Damon
Nixon
Sheffield
Matsui
Crosby

My money would be on Sheffield but there were the Damon rumors earlier on. Would be mad embarassing for MLB if it was Dye right after he wins WS MVP.

**The Miz** · 10-28-2005, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CNM

Heilman was a stud towards the end of the year. He could join the rotation and take Zito's spot.

Nah there's no way Beane would let Heilman start ahead of Joe Kennedy, even though Joe Kennedy is like the worst pitcher ever. Heilman would likely replace Witasick as the 4th option out of the pen. If the deal goes through Oaklands staff would probably look like this

1. Rich Harden
2. Joe Blanton
3. Dan Haren
4. Kirk Saarloos
5. Joe Kennedy
6. Dan Meyer/Seth Etherton/John Rheinecker (when Harden's inevitable injury happens)

Juan Cruz - garbage innings
Jairo Garcia - right one-out guy
Ron Flores - lefty one-out guy
Aaron Heilman - 7th
Justin Duchscherer - 7th/long relief
Kiko Calero - 8th
Huston Street - 9th

**The Miz** · 10-28-2005, 11:58 PM

Front page is updated with all the new resignings/options info. Damian Jackson is the first player to change teams.

**CNM** · 10-29-2005, 04:33 AM

Haha Joe Kennedy. That guy is strange. I think it's all mental with him. He was a stud for the Rox in 2004.

**Evil Vito** · 10-29-2005, 11:20 AM

To be honest, I'm not sure if I want Zito-for-Heilman...the Mets need bullpen help, not starting help. Heilman was great in the 'pen and he should stay there.

Adding Milledge in the trade (and actually, from what I've heard, adding him in ANY trade) would just be retarded.

**The Miz** · 10-29-2005, 12:38 PM

Manny told John henry he wants a trade or he won't report to Spring Training. What a cock

**Joey Slugs** · 10-29-2005, 03:45 PM

Friday, October 28
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Frank Thomas White Sox	White Sox?	Being Frank Oct 28 - What are the White Sox's plans for Frank Thomas? According to the Chicago Sun-Times, the ChiSox will likely buy out the Big Hurt's final year for $3.5 million. But that doesn't mean Thomas' stay in the Windy City is over. The team could still work out a free-agent deal with the slugger.
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Johnny Damon Red Sox	Yankees? Cubs?	Damon waiting on Epstein Oct 28 - Johnny Damon would like the opportunity to work out a new deal with Theo Epstein and the Red Sox, the Boston Herald reports. But he'll have to wait until Epstein's own contract matters are ironed out. Epstein's deal expires Oct. 31. "We have a good working relationship, he's been very honest with me and honest with the other players," Damon told the newspaper. "I know that Theo will try to get me on any team he goes to but he belongs in Boston, and hopefully I'll be back in Boston."
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Todd Walker Cubs		Walker this way Oct 28 - The Cubs are expected to pick up Todd Walker's $2.5 million option for 2006, ESPN Insider Jerry Crasnick reports. The second baseman hit .305 with 12 home runs and 40 RBI last season.

**Joey Slugs** · 10-29-2005, 05:26 PM

GM DePodesta reportedly on way out in LA

**VonErich Lives** · 10-29-2005, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

Manny told John henry he wants a trade or he won't report to Spring Training. What a cock

Yeah, they're saying "one of Manny's reps" which is funny because Manny is/was supposed to have a meeting with Henry next week.

Screw'em, if we don't get a good deal, don't trade him, if he doesn't report he doesn't get paid.

The best is, he wants to go to Anahiem, with Arizona and I think the Dodgers or SD os possible backups.

10-29-2005, 06:50 PM

jays should look at brian giles

**mrslackalack** · 10-30-2005, 12:16 AM

I look for the Angels to get Korenko.

**Joey Slugs** · 10-30-2005, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrslackalack

I look for the Angels to get Korenko.

Paulie is in a White Sox uni for the next 5 years. Bet it.

**BCWWF** · 10-30-2005, 12:48 AM

Paul will get the money from other people, but I think he will stay with the Sox. He's been there for a while, and if you think about it the White Sox should be a legit contender for the next couple years.

Anyway, he seems like the prototypical guy to have a good postseason and then get a big contract only to be subpar. Ie Beltran.

**VonErich Lives** · 10-30-2005, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF

Paul will get the money from other people, but I think he will stay with the Sox. He's been there for a while, and if you think about it the White Sox should be a legit contender for the next couple years.

Anyway, he seems like the prototypical guy to have a good postseason and then get a big contract only to be subpar. Ie Beltran.

The word from Chicago sports guys is Konerko doesn't find money the most impotant, and he doesn't want to play on the East Coast. However, there word is the White Sox really want to push the deffered money and there will be a point where money could be an issue.

**YOUR Hero** · 10-30-2005, 12:44 PM

So Damon is a free Agent now. Does he move on or get a big pay raise in Boston? I feel he's over rated. He's good, no doubt, but he gets way too much press.

**Loose Cannon** · 10-30-2005, 12:47 PM

Yankees need him. That's exactly the kind of players they need in the lineup.

**Dragon** · 10-30-2005, 01:11 PM

I'd rather not have Damon on the Yankees. He is going to want a long term deal and will be just like Bernie is now near the end of it. I'd rather have someone with better defensive abilities and who could handle the outfield.

**Joey Slugs** · 10-30-2005, 02:04 PM

The Braves announced Saturday that they have named Roger McDowell as the club's pitching coach. McDowell replaces Leo Mazzone, who joined the Orioles staff on Oct. 21. McDowell spent the last two seasons as the pitching coach at Triple-A Las Vegas. More >

**YOUR Hero** · 10-30-2005, 02:17 PM

Blue Jays acquire the rights to Damon and Ramirez for a minor league prospect and a 2009 3RD round draft pick.

**RoXer** · 10-30-2005, 02:33 PM

**YOUR Hero** · 10-30-2005, 03:22 PM

MLB's Palmeiro, Rogers file for free agency

WebPosted Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:55:17 EDT CBC Sports
Major-leaguers Rafael Palmeiro and Kenny Rogers, both of whom served suspensions during the 2005 season, have hit the free market.

**BCWWF** · 10-30-2005, 05:02 PM

I guess it was a contract year, but Damon was real good last year.

**mrslackalack** · 10-30-2005, 11:32 PM

I hope the Reds can get some pitchers. But why would they want to come to hitter friendly GABP?

**The Miz** · 10-31-2005, 04:46 PM

Silver sluggers

AL
C J Vartiek
1B M Teixiera
2B A Soriano
3B A Rodriguez
SS M Tejada
OF M Ramirez
OF V Guerrero
OF G Sheffield
DH D Ortiz

NL
P J Marquis
C M Barrett (is the NL that thin in catching?)
1B D Lee
2B J Kent
3B M Ensberg
SS F Lopez
OF A Jones
OF M Cabrera
OF C Lee

**Evil Vito** · 10-31-2005, 04:48 PM

Barrett?

10-21-2005, 04:30 PM	#81
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,383	Also, it's official: Leo Mazzone is the new Orioles pitching coach As a Mets fan, I say with caution to the other AL East teams: watch out, those jobbers pitchers they pick up are gonna magically turn out great

10-21-2005, 05:55 PM	#82
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	yeah, forgot to mention Wells. He was bitching that he can't go out w/o people reconsizing him. Hmm, guess he never had that problem in NY? I think it was more the year in SD, more laid back, plus his home is there. He should get something, he is 43, but still decent and only has a base of like 2.5mil.

10-22-2005, 05:13 PM	#83
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	He says he wants to go back West. SD and SF are probably the most likely candidates, Dodgers too maybe. He is perfect for SF because he is old, washed up, and fat. Oakland and LAAA, no.

10-22-2005, 08:06 PM	#85
OssMan The Classic Dylan Staples Posts: 51,536	woooo mazzone

10-23-2005, 12:02 AM	#87
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	Why would they break up Cox/Mazzone?

10-24-2005, 01:36 AM	#88
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	Yeah I'm pretty disappointed that he's gone. He said he was perfectly happy here and didn't want to go anywhere else.

10-27-2005, 04:48 PM	#89
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Teams have from today until Nov. 10 to re-sign their players before they become anybody's game. First one to re-sign today was Mike DeJean with the Rockies

10-27-2005, 05:22 PM	#90
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	No one seems to know on Theo. One is he's going to re-sign for 1.4mil a year, because lucchino makes 1.5mil (salary, not ownership rights) and Lucchino wont let Theo make more then him. There's also talk he's going, but a team would have to scoop him quick to have him in place to handle this years off-season moves. Theo's case: You offered Bill Bean like 2.5mil to come here (actually, I think Bean had signed and technically for 24hrs was the sox gm) and Bean hasn't won a World Series. On the flip side, I have, so if you're going to give 2.5mil to a guy that never won a WS, then you should give me near the same since I won the WS. Also, their is rumor that Theo wants more control and to report to Henry not Lucchino.

10-27-2005, 10:44 PM	#91
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Peter Gammons reports, Oakland gets: RP Aaron Heilman OF Lastings Milledge (AA) NYM gets: SP Barry Zito Wow. If it goes through it doesn't really make sense for Oakland. Milledge has no use to them. They have tons of OF prospects and they need a big bat that is ready to play everyday in 2006. My guess is they would immediately trade Milledge and other prospects for someone like Dunn. As for Heilman, I dunno, NL relievers are generally bad pickups. But he can't be any worse than Yabu. A more sensible trade (for Oakland) would be Zito for Heilman, Yusmeiro Petit, and Victor Diaz.

10-27-2005, 10:51 PM	#92
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Also Ms declined Guardados option. Awesome. Good job letting him walk instead of tarding him in June. I love you, Bavasi.

10-28-2005, 03:46 AM	#95
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Everyday Eddie

10-28-2005, 03:28 AM	#93
CNM Posts: 2,540	Heilman was a stud towards the end of the year. He could join the rotation and take Zito's spot.

10-28-2005, 11:12 PM	#96
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	USA Today says an AL-playoff outfielder tested positive for roids but is appelaing. Possibilities are: Podsednik Dye Rowand Vlad Finley DaVanon Anderson Manny Damon Nixon Sheffield Matsui Crosby My money would be on Sheffield but there were the Damon rumors earlier on. Would be mad embarassing for MLB if it was Dye right after he wins WS MVP.

10-28-2005, 11:58 PM	#98
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Front page is updated with all the new resignings/options info. Damian Jackson is the first player to change teams.

10-29-2005, 04:33 AM	#99
CNM Posts: 2,540	Haha Joe Kennedy. That guy is strange. I think it's all mental with him. He was a stud for the Rox in 2004.

10-29-2005, 11:20 AM	#100
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,383	To be honest, I'm not sure if I want Zito-for-Heilman...the Mets need bullpen help, not starting help. Heilman was great in the 'pen and he should stay there. Adding Milledge in the trade (and actually, from what I've heard, adding him in ANY trade) would just be retarded.

10-29-2005, 12:38 PM	#101
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Manny told John henry he wants a trade or he won't report to Spring Training. What a cock

10-29-2005, 05:26 PM	#103
Joey Slugs Second City Saint Posts: 5,806	GM DePodesta reportedly on way out in LA

10-29-2005, 06:50 PM	#105
Gertner Guest Posts: n/a	jays should look at brian giles

10-30-2005, 12:16 AM	#106
mrslackalack Mr. Slack A Lack Jack! Posts: 4,390	I look for the Angels to get Korenko.

10-30-2005, 12:48 AM	#108
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Paul will get the money from other people, but I think he will stay with the Sox. He's been there for a while, and if you think about it the White Sox should be a legit contender for the next couple years. Anyway, he seems like the prototypical guy to have a good postseason and then get a big contract only to be subpar. Ie Beltran.

10-30-2005, 12:44 PM	#110
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	So Damon is a free Agent now. Does he move on or get a big pay raise in Boston? I feel he's over rated. He's good, no doubt, but he gets way too much press.

10-30-2005, 12:47 PM	#111
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	Yankees need him. That's exactly the kind of players they need in the lineup.

10-30-2005, 01:11 PM	#112
Dragon REALMENTE Posts: 11,271	I'd rather not have Damon on the Yankees. He is going to want a long term deal and will be just like Bernie is now near the end of it. I'd rather have someone with better defensive abilities and who could handle the outfield.

10-30-2005, 02:04 PM	#113
Joey Slugs Second City Saint Posts: 5,806	The Braves announced Saturday that they have named Roger McDowell as the club's pitching coach. McDowell replaces Leo Mazzone, who joined the Orioles staff on Oct. 21. McDowell spent the last two seasons as the pitching coach at Triple-A Las Vegas. More >

10-30-2005, 02:17 PM	#114
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	Blue Jays acquire the rights to Damon and Ramirez for a minor league prospect and a 2009 3RD round draft pick.

10-30-2005, 02:33 PM	#115
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425

10-30-2005, 03:22 PM	#116
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	MLB's Palmeiro, Rogers file for free agency WebPosted Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:55:17 EDT CBC Sports Major-leaguers Rafael Palmeiro and Kenny Rogers, both of whom served suspensions during the 2005 season, have hit the free market.

10-30-2005, 05:02 PM	#117
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I guess it was a contract year, but Damon was real good last year.

10-30-2005, 11:32 PM	#118
mrslackalack Mr. Slack A Lack Jack! Posts: 4,390	I hope the Reds can get some pitchers. But why would they want to come to hitter friendly GABP?

10-31-2005, 04:46 PM	#119
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Silver sluggers AL C J Vartiek 1B M Teixiera 2B A Soriano 3B A Rodriguez SS M Tejada OF M Ramirez OF V Guerrero OF G Sheffield DH D Ortiz NL P J Marquis C M Barrett (is the NL that thin in catching?) 1B D Lee 2B J Kent 3B M Ensberg SS F Lopez OF A Jones OF M Cabrera OF C Lee