Super Bowl XL Thread - Page 3

**BCWWF** · 02-06-2006, 01:17 AM

Icon, the one that I couldn't remember was the pushoff. In slow motion it looked like a "maybe" call, but in full speed it was a legit play.

As for the Roethlisburger TD, I think it was pretty clear exactly where the ball was the whole time. His head and part of the body got over the line, but you could see the ball the whole time, and it literally got as close to the line without going over as you possibly can.

I agree with Outlaw, in the pregame I was thinking to myself, this has the potential to be a really cool game. The Seahawks have some cool players and it's a rare matchup of teams, but it turned out to be kind of boring most of the time. Too bad.

**VonErich Lives** · 02-06-2006, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

LOL, Tom Brady's been reduced to flipping coins

Funny side note, I think back in 2003, Belicheck stopped letting Brady call the coin flip cause he lost like 10 in a row.

**VonErich Lives** · 02-06-2006, 03:30 AM

hmm... no post game post from The Miz????

**VonErich Lives** · 02-06-2006, 06:35 AM

So, I've been sick all weekend. So, I watched a few mins and fell asleep.

I check the score and say "ok, looked like a decent game" then I see the box score and the stats and go "hmm, looked kinda ugly" then I turn on the radio and everyone has been ripping both teams apart.

Someone who watched the whole thing tell me, was it really this ugly or is everyone just getting carried away?

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 02-06-2006, 10:01 AM

Oh yeah, so much for the Bengals taking over their division, everybody was talking about how the Bengals got over the hump and are now better then the Steelers and then the Steelers go and win the Superbowl

**VonErich Lives** · 02-06-2006, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sTiMa34

Oh yeah, so much for the Bengals taking over their division, everybody was talking about how the Bengals got over the hump and are now better then the Steelers and then the Steelers go and win the Superbowl

Umm, yeah... no one can say for sure but the outcome might have been a bit different if say... Palmer didn't get injured on his first pass.

Seriously, take away the start QB from most teams especially during a game and it make a big difference, you should know that.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 02-06-2006, 12:38 PM

No I know but I'm just saying after the regular season and the Bengals won the division title everyone was like "theres a new sheriff in town" then the Steelers go on to win the Superbowl. Kind of ironic how the Steelers finally win the Superbowl when they are a wildcard team instead of a division champ, which they have been over and over for the last few years.

**The Outlaw** · 02-06-2006, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by VonErich Lives

So, I've been sick all weekend. So, I watched a few mins and fell asleep.

I check the score and say "ok, looked like a decent game" then I see the box score and the stats and go "hmm, looked kinda ugly" then I turn on the radio and everyone has been ripping both teams apart.

Someone who watched the whole thing tell me, was it really this ugly or is everyone just getting carried away?

I wouldn't call it ugly. Like I said, it COULD HAVE been a classic, but that was not the case.

I listened to Dan Patrick on the way home just now and he basically said the Steelers "did what they had to do to win". They got dominated in basically every aspect of the game, but whenever Seattle got a big play, a hold or an intro or a block below the waist or something was called. It wasn't the number of penalties (becauseI don't even know how many there were?) but it's when they called them. That's always the case. The main beef I have with the Pass Interferance call was that the ref waited until the defender ran to him and got in his face saying he got pushed off. THEN he threw the flag. Same thing with the TD Big Ben had. The ref came running in with one hand up signalling he didn't get it, then Ben pushed the ball over (after he was down) and he signals TD? Ben's helmet broke the plane, the ball came close but it didn't. Refs are programmed to signal everything without hesitation, and these did not. The officiating in this game was atrocious, as well as the whole playoffs basically.

I guess they are saying it was ugly because of the turnovers and the horrible clock management at the end of the first and second halfs by the Hawks. The 'Hawks basically got robbed of two touchdowns, and Pitt was given one. Other than three big plays by the Steelers, they had nothing. 76 yard TD run, 49 yard pass on 3rd and 19 or 23 or something similar, and the reverse pass which I am guessing was 50+ yards.

**Gonzo** · 02-06-2006, 01:52 PM

The thing about the whole bit with the defender whining to the ref to get the flag, WR's do it all the time so I can't really feel for Seattle on that one. I didn't see the holding call or the suspect cut block which wasn't a cut block by Hasselbeck cause I was in the shitter, so I can't say anything about those.

I do have a question though, I was listening to the radio this morning and they mentioned that Hasselbeck dove for the blocker's knees of a player who was in front of the ball carrier, and not actually the ball carrier. I don't know if they saw something else or this is incorrect, but I remember this specific situation coming up earlier this year and they called it a penalty. I don't know can someone clarify?

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 02-06-2006, 02:56 PM

Well it kinda looked he hit both the blocker and the ball carrier below the knees, so I don't know.

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 02-06-2006, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

I do have a question though, I was listening to the radio this morning and they mentioned that Hasselbeck dove for the blocker's knees of a player who was in front of the ball carrier, and not actually the ball carrier. I don't know if they saw something else or this is incorrect, but I remember this specific situation coming up earlier this year and they called it a penalty. I don't know can someone clarify?

Yeah I remember that as well, I dunno for some reason I keep thinking it's when Bulger injured himself against the Colts but I'm not sure.

**RGWhat316** · 02-06-2006, 03:06 PM

I'm still excited for the Steelers winning the Super Bowl this year. It wasn't a horrible game, but it wasn't really up there with the Super Bowl classics. Pittsburgh played like crap in the first half, but they picked it up enough to win. Some calls were iffy, but Seattle was off. Hasselbeck had a lot of overthrown passes in which I believe led to the fall of Seattle this year.

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 02-06-2006, 03:42 PM

Take that, Dan Marino

**Fryza** · 02-06-2006, 03:49 PM

Meh, after reading this thread, the only good thing about the Bowl seems to be Tom Brady doing the coin flip...

**VonErich Lives** · 02-06-2006, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fryza

Meh, after reading this thread, the only good thing about the Bowl seems to be Tom Brady doing the coin flip...

They said after the flip he shook hands with the Seahawks and went to shake hands with the Steelers the they blew him off.

Really, this team has no class at all...

but yeah, everything I'm hearing/reading the game was horrible.

Both teams played like crap, made stupid mistakes etc..
The Refs sucked like they have all post season.
even the 1/2 time show is getting crapped on.

first Super Bowl I've missed in a long time, looks like I picked a good one to be sick/sleep during.

**The Miz** · 02-06-2006, 08:16 PM

Well I can't say I'm surprised. Two very talented teams, one with a HOF coach and one with a moron. Walking into haltime with 3 points was a joke. I literally threw up in my mouth at the execution at the end of the 1st half. Obviously the officiating sucked but I refuse to believe that we could've won with Holmgren on the sideline.

Alot of people are pissed at Hasselbeck for that INT; I'm not mad at him, overall he played pretty well against a very tough defense. I'm madder at Alexander, its easy to scapegoat the QB but Alexander in no way stepped up and acted like he wanted to take the game in his hands. He's supposed to be the MVP right? An MVP would've taken control of the game; an MVP is Emmit Smith, Terrell Davis, and Walter Payton. Shaun Alexander is a very good running back who has great stats but is content with that. Alexander is happy with winning his little rushing title and NFC championship but the great ones get determined to win the whole thing.

The Seahawks were happy to be there, the Steelers weren't; they were determined to win. Game over.

**The Miz** · 02-06-2006, 08:17 PM

Also Joey Porter didn't lay out Stevens at the end of the game, he did an awesome job of standing next to the guy who did and talking a lot of shit though. I'm not quite sure where he was when Stevens found the endzone.

**samichna** · 02-06-2006, 08:34 PM

Wooooooo won some money.

**VonErich Lives** · 02-06-2006, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Miz

Alot of people are pissed at Hasselbeck for that INT; I'm not mad at him, overall he played pretty well against a very tough defense. I'm madder at Alexander, its easy to scapegoat the QB but Alexander in no way stepped up and acted like he wanted to take the game in his hands. He's supposed to be the MVP right? An MVP would've taken control of the game; an MVP is Emmit Smith, Terrell Davis, and Walter Payton.

As stated, I slept through most the game...

I'm just looking at stats

Alexander 20 for 95. that's a 4.75yd avg
take away his longest run of 21
he's 19 for 74 that's a 3.89yd avg.

Not sure what you wanted him to do, if the coach doesn't give him the ball.

Hasselbeck 26/49 that's a completion % of .53

Dunno, looks to me both player given that they had to work with, Alexander had a pretty decent game.

Also, if you're not going to fault Hasselbeck because he faced a great D, how can you fault a guy who avg 4.75/yds per carry against a defense that was 3rd in the league in rushing yds allowed for the season, first in the league in yds per rush allowed (league, not confrence).

I just don't understand your logic in blaming alexander while giving Hasselbeck a pass.

Incase you were wondering, Pittsburg was 3rd in the league in sacks, otherwise they're passing D stats were pretty average (middle of the league).

**The Miz** · 02-06-2006, 09:13 PM

Well the first thing I mentioned in my post was the coaching, obviously Holmgren needed to draw up more plays for Alexander and Hasslebeck should never throw the ball 50 times in a game, ever. I don't fault Alexander for not getting the ball more but for some reason I don't see Emmitt Smith sitting on the bench not doing anything about it. Alexander needs to tell Holmgren, look asshole, I'm the MVP, give me the ball.

Statistically Alexander and Hasselbeck both had good, not near great games. But Alexander is supposed to be not only the best RB but the best PLAYER in football. Hasslebeck is just supposed to be a good QB. You knew somewhere I would tie this to baseball, if Manny Ramirez and Alex Cora both put up a line of (.313/.357/.429) with 1 homer on the losing end of a playoff series; who are you going to be more dissapointed in? Manny is the best hitter in the world and hit performed like a just above average one. Cora is lucky to be in a starting 9 and he performed like an above average major-leaguer. That's how I feel with my team, nobody asked Hasselbeck to throw for 350 yards and 4 TD's because he isn't that kind of QB. People expected alot more out of Shawn because he is the MVP and he played like a decent running back.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 02-06-2006, 09:21 PM

lol Porter was probably in the same spot when Stevens dropped 3 passes.

"It's a great story but it will be sad when the Bus leaves without a ring"

Stevens = "FredEx"

"And whats that other guys name? yeah #37?"

**Gonzo** · 02-06-2006, 09:42 PM

Yeah I thought it was pretty funny that Stevens dropped like 3 or 4 balls after talking smack of his own against the Steelers, not that Porter had anything to do with that though.

Also, I was watching the highlights again and on that pass int call on the Seattle WR that nullified the TD, even though it still remains a questionable call the referee was going for his flag before the Pittsburgh defender even turned to bitch. Looks like he just couldn't get it out of his belt.

I dont know if I mentioned it before but I agree with Stima, I don't even know what Seattle was doing at the end of both halves there. My dad and I were just laughing at the whole thing.

Miz brought up a good point though, Alexander didn't get the ball enough and that is definitely a huge coaching fuck up.

**D Mac** · 02-07-2006, 01:08 AM

All I heard on the radio today is how the refs screwed up the game. That may be, but good teams always overcome adversity and Seattle just did'nt have it.

**VonErich Lives** · 02-07-2006, 11:38 AM

So, did you hear the pre-game motivation speaches?

Holmgrem laid out the winners share in 1 dollar bills in the table (around 75K) and said "this is what we're playing for. What he didn't mention is a loss they still get around 50K. How much does 25K mean to most the guys on that team?

Cowher talked about Columbus.... Would have been funny if somoene said "umm, Coach... didn't he get lost and not end up where he thought he was?"

just got a laugh out of both of those.

**VonErich Lives** · 02-07-2006, 11:43 AM

wow, what a jackass...

Holmgren in a speach during the "looser celebration" in seattle (which I've never understood having a celebration for losing a big game).

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"We knew it was going to be tough going up against the Pittsburgh Steelers," Holmgren later told 15,000 fans who had gathered at Qwest Field on Monday afternoon. "I didn't know we were going to have to play the guys in the striped shirts as well."

Jesus, maybe if you managed the clock and ran the ball more it wouldn't have made a difference.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune....football-print

**VonErich Lives** · 02-07-2006, 12:02 PM

Another funny note, before the game Boomer Esiason was talking to Holmgren and reminded him that in the Bengals Super Bowl Loss to the 49'ers the Bengles Defense basiclly shut down the 49'ers offense all game.

The Bengles DC? Dick LeBeau
49'ers OC? Mike Holmgren

**Team Sheep** · 02-07-2006, 01:47 PM

I loved the game, thought it was great. But I could sit and watch any game for hours to be honest. Easily pleased.

**The Outlaw** · 02-07-2006, 02:04 PM

Let's get this straight. Joey Porter runs his mouth the whole time leading up to the Super Bowl. Stevens basically says "We're going to win". Doesn't do much trash talking. Stevens has the better game. Porter basically got beat down by Jones the whole game. I saw Porter make one play, and that was a horse collar tackle. Yet, it's funny that Stevens dropped 3 passes? I just don't really understand that logic at all.

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 02-07-2006, 02:08 PM

Stevens didn't run his mouth but he said enough to give something for Porter to bite on, and that's all he was looking for. It wasn't really Porter vs Stevens it's more like if you say anything even remotely like trash before the Superbowl you'd better have at least a good game, and Stevens didn't.

**Gonzo** · 02-07-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Outlaw

Let's get this straight. Joey Porter runs his mouth the whole time leading up to the Super Bowl. Stevens basically says "We're going to win". Doesn't do much trash talking. Stevens has the better game. Porter basically got beat down by Jones the whole game. I saw Porter make one play, and that was a horse collar tackle. Yet, it's funny that Stevens dropped 3 passes? I just don't really understand that logic at all.

I don't know for me personally, I am just used to Joey Porter saying stupid shit. So anything he said prior to the game wasn't anything out of the ordinary, but when Stevens said something then played like shit, it made it funny.

**The Outlaw** · 02-09-2006, 02:55 PM

I dunno, I thought trash talking wise:

Porter > Stevens

And as for as performance goes:

Stevens > Porter

I don't like the whole bashing Shaun I've seen. Guy had nearly a 5 yards a carry. It's not like he was getting shut down. Plus, there was that whole one of the best defenses he was going against. At one time in the second half, Bettis had more rushes than Alexander. So, a backup runningback was getting more touches than the MVP of the league, while the guy who is known as the "We want the ball and we're going to score" guy passed the ball 50 times (even though he had a pretty good game)? You would think it would be a little more balanced, especially when you have the best RB in the league. I also don't like people bashing Holmgreen saying he didn't have a game plan. His gameplan worked to perfection I thought from the get-go. They moved the ball at ease, just the whole having a few touchdowns taken away and given to the other team thing will do it to you.

**The Miz** · 02-09-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Outlaw

His gameplan worked to perfection I thought from the get-go.

Did you not watch the last 2 minutes of the 1st half?

**The Outlaw** · 02-10-2006, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Miz

Did you not watch the last 2 minutes of the 1st half?

I've already said the clock management was horrible at the end of both the first and second half. Can't really fault him when he sends in two plays (that's what is being reported anyway?) and Hasselbeck wastes a lot of time trying to audible to a perfect play.

**darkpower** · 02-10-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Sanders

Ref's cheated for the Steelers. Everyone wants to see Bettis get a Superbowl ring.

Like that one referee that called a sure interception back in the Steelers/Colts game because he thought Randal El fumbled the ball before coming back up (or something like that, don't know his exact logic on the thing)?

Yeah, that's showing everyone that they were Steel Curtain fans.

**The Outlaw** · 02-11-2006, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by darkpower

Like that one referee that called a sure interception back in the Steelers/Colts game because he thought Randal El fumbled the ball before coming back up (or something like that, don't know his exact logic on the thing)?

Yeah, that's showing everyone that they were Steel Curtain fans.

Yeah, considering Antwain Randel El plays defense and all.

02-06-2006, 01:17 AM	#81
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Icon, the one that I couldn't remember was the pushoff. In slow motion it looked like a "maybe" call, but in full speed it was a legit play. As for the Roethlisburger TD, I think it was pretty clear exactly where the ball was the whole time. His head and part of the body got over the line, but you could see the ball the whole time, and it literally got as close to the line without going over as you possibly can. I agree with Outlaw, in the pregame I was thinking to myself, this has the potential to be a really cool game. The Seahawks have some cool players and it's a rare matchup of teams, but it turned out to be kind of boring most of the time. Too bad.

02-06-2006, 03:30 AM	#83
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	hmm... no post game post from The Miz????

02-06-2006, 06:35 AM	#84
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	So, I've been sick all weekend. So, I watched a few mins and fell asleep. I check the score and say "ok, looked like a decent game" then I see the box score and the stats and go "hmm, looked kinda ugly" then I turn on the radio and everyone has been ripping both teams apart. Someone who watched the whole thing tell me, was it really this ugly or is everyone just getting carried away?

02-06-2006, 10:01 AM	#85
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Oh yeah, so much for the Bengals taking over their division, everybody was talking about how the Bengals got over the hump and are now better then the Steelers and then the Steelers go and win the Superbowl

02-06-2006, 12:38 PM	#87
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	No I know but I'm just saying after the regular season and the Bengals won the division title everyone was like "theres a new sheriff in town" then the Steelers go on to win the Superbowl. Kind of ironic how the Steelers finally win the Superbowl when they are a wildcard team instead of a division champ, which they have been over and over for the last few years.

02-06-2006, 01:52 PM	#89
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	The thing about the whole bit with the defender whining to the ref to get the flag, WR's do it all the time so I can't really feel for Seattle on that one. I didn't see the holding call or the suspect cut block which wasn't a cut block by Hasselbeck cause I was in the shitter, so I can't say anything about those. I do have a question though, I was listening to the radio this morning and they mentioned that Hasselbeck dove for the blocker's knees of a player who was in front of the ball carrier, and not actually the ball carrier. I don't know if they saw something else or this is incorrect, but I remember this specific situation coming up earlier this year and they called it a penalty. I don't know can someone clarify?

02-06-2006, 02:56 PM	#90
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Well it kinda looked he hit both the blocker and the ball carrier below the knees, so I don't know.

02-06-2006, 03:06 PM	#92
RGWhat316 YesYesYes! Posts: 4,163	I'm still excited for the Steelers winning the Super Bowl this year. It wasn't a horrible game, but it wasn't really up there with the Super Bowl classics. Pittsburgh played like crap in the first half, but they picked it up enough to win. Some calls were iffy, but Seattle was off. Hasselbeck had a lot of overthrown passes in which I believe led to the fall of Seattle this year.

02-06-2006, 03:42 PM	#93
Mr. Monday Morning All Part Of The Plan Posts: 12,125	Take that, Dan Marino

02-06-2006, 03:49 PM	#94
Fryza Fthagn? Posts: 10,042	Meh, after reading this thread, the only good thing about the Bowl seems to be Tom Brady doing the coin flip...

02-06-2006, 08:16 PM	#96
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Well I can't say I'm surprised. Two very talented teams, one with a HOF coach and one with a moron. Walking into haltime with 3 points was a joke. I literally threw up in my mouth at the execution at the end of the 1st half. Obviously the officiating sucked but I refuse to believe that we could've won with Holmgren on the sideline. Alot of people are pissed at Hasselbeck for that INT; I'm not mad at him, overall he played pretty well against a very tough defense. I'm madder at Alexander, its easy to scapegoat the QB but Alexander in no way stepped up and acted like he wanted to take the game in his hands. He's supposed to be the MVP right? An MVP would've taken control of the game; an MVP is Emmit Smith, Terrell Davis, and Walter Payton. Shaun Alexander is a very good running back who has great stats but is content with that. Alexander is happy with winning his little rushing title and NFC championship but the great ones get determined to win the whole thing. The Seahawks were happy to be there, the Steelers weren't; they were determined to win. Game over.

02-06-2006, 08:17 PM	#97
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Also Joey Porter didn't lay out Stevens at the end of the game, he did an awesome job of standing next to the guy who did and talking a lot of shit though. I'm not quite sure where he was when Stevens found the endzone.

02-06-2006, 08:34 PM	#98
samichna TAKE IT EACE Posts: 27,417	Wooooooo won some money.

02-06-2006, 09:13 PM	#100
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Well the first thing I mentioned in my post was the coaching, obviously Holmgren needed to draw up more plays for Alexander and Hasslebeck should never throw the ball 50 times in a game, ever. I don't fault Alexander for not getting the ball more but for some reason I don't see Emmitt Smith sitting on the bench not doing anything about it. Alexander needs to tell Holmgren, look asshole, I'm the MVP, give me the ball. Statistically Alexander and Hasselbeck both had good, not near great games. But Alexander is supposed to be not only the best RB but the best PLAYER in football. Hasslebeck is just supposed to be a good QB. You knew somewhere I would tie this to baseball, if Manny Ramirez and Alex Cora both put up a line of (.313/.357/.429) with 1 homer on the losing end of a playoff series; who are you going to be more dissapointed in? Manny is the best hitter in the world and hit performed like a just above average one. Cora is lucky to be in a starting 9 and he performed like an above average major-leaguer. That's how I feel with my team, nobody asked Hasselbeck to throw for 350 yards and 4 TD's because he isn't that kind of QB. People expected alot more out of Shawn because he is the MVP and he played like a decent running back.

02-06-2006, 09:21 PM	#101
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	lol Porter was probably in the same spot when Stevens dropped 3 passes. "It's a great story but it will be sad when the Bus leaves without a ring" Stevens = "FredEx" "And whats that other guys name? yeah #37?"

02-06-2006, 09:42 PM	#102
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	Yeah I thought it was pretty funny that Stevens dropped like 3 or 4 balls after talking smack of his own against the Steelers, not that Porter had anything to do with that though. Also, I was watching the highlights again and on that pass int call on the Seattle WR that nullified the TD, even though it still remains a questionable call the referee was going for his flag before the Pittsburgh defender even turned to bitch. Looks like he just couldn't get it out of his belt. I dont know if I mentioned it before but I agree with Stima, I don't even know what Seattle was doing at the end of both halves there. My dad and I were just laughing at the whole thing. Miz brought up a good point though, Alexander didn't get the ball enough and that is definitely a huge coaching fuck up.

02-07-2006, 01:08 AM	#103
D Mac Posts: 21,603	All I heard on the radio today is how the refs screwed up the game. That may be, but good teams always overcome adversity and Seattle just did'nt have it.

02-07-2006, 11:38 AM	#104
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	So, did you hear the pre-game motivation speaches? Holmgrem laid out the winners share in 1 dollar bills in the table (around 75K) and said "this is what we're playing for. What he didn't mention is a loss they still get around 50K. How much does 25K mean to most the guys on that team? Cowher talked about Columbus.... Would have been funny if somoene said "umm, Coach... didn't he get lost and not end up where he thought he was?" just got a laugh out of both of those.

02-07-2006, 12:02 PM	#106
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	Another funny note, before the game Boomer Esiason was talking to Holmgren and reminded him that in the Bengals Super Bowl Loss to the 49'ers the Bengles Defense basiclly shut down the 49'ers offense all game. The Bengles DC? Dick LeBeau 49'ers OC? Mike Holmgren

02-07-2006, 01:47 PM	#107
Team Sheep T�m Defaid Posts: 6,646	I loved the game, thought it was great. But I could sit and watch any game for hours to be honest. Easily pleased.

02-07-2006, 02:04 PM	#108
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	Let's get this straight. Joey Porter runs his mouth the whole time leading up to the Super Bowl. Stevens basically says "We're going to win". Doesn't do much trash talking. Stevens has the better game. Porter basically got beat down by Jones the whole game. I saw Porter make one play, and that was a horse collar tackle. Yet, it's funny that Stevens dropped 3 passes? I just don't really understand that logic at all.

02-07-2006, 02:08 PM	#109
Mr. Monday Morning All Part Of The Plan Posts: 12,125	Stevens didn't run his mouth but he said enough to give something for Porter to bite on, and that's all he was looking for. It wasn't really Porter vs Stevens it's more like if you say anything even remotely like trash before the Superbowl you'd better have at least a good game, and Stevens didn't.

02-09-2006, 02:55 PM	#111
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	I dunno, I thought trash talking wise: Porter > Stevens And as for as performance goes: Stevens > Porter I don't like the whole bashing Shaun I've seen. Guy had nearly a 5 yards a carry. It's not like he was getting shut down. Plus, there was that whole one of the best defenses he was going against. At one time in the second half, Bettis had more rushes than Alexander. So, a backup runningback was getting more touches than the MVP of the league, while the guy who is known as the "We want the ball and we're going to score" guy passed the ball 50 times (even though he had a pretty good game)? You would think it would be a little more balanced, especially when you have the best RB in the league. I also don't like people bashing Holmgreen saying he didn't have a game plan. His gameplan worked to perfection I thought from the get-go. They moved the ball at ease, just the whole having a few touchdowns taken away and given to the other team thing will do it to you.