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Old 02-08-2006, 05:11 AM   #81
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The Edge/Cena fuid is alot better than the one Cena had with Jericho and possibly the one with angle. Why end it before Wrestle Mania. If it happerns it will be better than HHH in the Wrestle Mania main event agian
The best thing that could happern is that it ends up being Edge vs Cena and someone like Masters (everyone likes an underdog right). That would leave HHH free for what I for one want to see. Faital 4 way for the IC title Flair,Show,HHH and Van Dam
I Agree that this cena fued is alot better then jerichos one...angles one was just getting boring.

but i would rather have hhh beat the crap out of cena as soon as possible

and have edge the ic champ
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Old 02-08-2006, 09:34 AM   #82
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The Edge/Cena fuid is alot better than the one Cena had with Jericho and possibly the one with angle. Why end it before Wrestle Mania.
Angle and Jericho's feuds with Cena got boring because Everyone knew that Cena was going to win, and there was no interest required. Jericho's was even more tedious, b/c we knew he was leaving, so there was no hope. But Angle's was ridiculous, b/c if he "can't beat" Cena the first time, he's obviously not going to, and they had nobody else to run with at the time. Made for tedious wins over our Olympic Hero. Edge's looks better because it's only been on for one month, they've had, like, two matches and Edge is a fresh member to the title scene. It's new and interesting, ere go, it's viewed as 'better'.

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If it happerns it will be better than HHH in the Wrestle Mania main event agian
HHH will headline with Cena and, as most of us hope, will beat him. It's not about feud, it's about ratings and names, b/c it's the Big One. I"m sure Edge will be sticking his nose in the title scene again, and I think he and H will have a decent battle somewhere down the road. Besides, money-wise, nobody beats H--not even Cena.

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The best thing that could happern is that it ends up being Edge vs Cena and someone like Masters (everyone likes an underdog right). That would leave HHH free for what I for one want to see. Faital 4 way for the IC title Flair,Show,HHH and Van Dam
First of all, let's clear something up: Everyone loves an underdog; nobody like Chris Masters.



But as for the title, it seems you are confused about a few things. Number one, being that Flair needs a title shot. The fact is, Flair shouldn't have a title now because he shouldn't be wrestling. He's a name, and that's all; he needs to manage, perhaps, but also to stop taking time from the new guys and the vets that can still go in the ring. HHH will not go for the IC title. He could have before, in his feud with Flair, but he didn't, b/c it doesn't matter to him. And Big Show...um, if he belongs in any title scene, after the Tag Titles, he'll be in the WT scene, b/c that's what they've been hinting at off and on for the last full year, and in my opinion, that's where he should always be. RVD is a good pick, tho. If you want a Fatal (not "faital") 4-Way, then make it RVD, Benjamin, Chavo and, say, Venis. Or, instead of Venis, make it Nick Nameth. That way, you could start another fued there, having Nameth pissed about being abandoned by Chavo after Eddie's death.

Anyway, I'm not just saying your ideas are crap. I'm saying it's crap you can learn from. Then again, this is just the opinion of me. I've been known to be wrong, myself.
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Old 02-08-2006, 12:28 PM   #83
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The ratings still haven't fallen drastically since Edge lost the belt, so it wasn't all him, obviously.
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The ratings still haven't fallen drastically since Edge lost the belt, so it wasn't all him, obviously.
Do you have evidence of this?

The Nielsen site isn't covering The Raw following the RR yet, and while I'm sure they do have the figures already, it'll be a while before we see them.

Besides, Edge is still in the ME scene, whether we like it or not, so we can't really derive much.

Then again, Edge is an Oasis factor, much like Coachman was for like 2 weeks.
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Old 02-08-2006, 02:35 PM   #85
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Last weeks show did a 4.5, and this weeks did a 4.4.
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Old 02-08-2006, 03:03 PM   #86
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PWInsider, Observer site...it's everywhere dude.

It was actually a 4.5 this week, not 4.4.

So since the Rumble, it's been 2 more 4.5's

http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=16171&p=1 <--- This weeks Raw rating.
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See, those were the numbers I was using.

Until Nielsen proved me wrong.
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PWInsider, Observer site...it's everywhere dude.
So were the false ratings everyone was using to justify Edge's drawing power. It cuts both ways, and at this point, I think I'll wait until I see the REAL Nielsen ratings before I make any judgements.
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See, those were the numbers I was using.

Until Nielsen proved me wrong.
Fucking site took so long to post, I didn't even see this Goddamn post while I was trying to make mine.

Unfortunately, the Nielsen top 10 hasn't been updated for CABLE (Broadcast is on the 30th, Cable is on the 23rd).
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Hold on...what? False ratings? Where did this all come from?
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Hold on...what? False ratings? Where did this all come from?
The ratings for the week before the RR are represented by Nielsen Media as 3.7, well below that which is being represented online.

Basically, the sources quoted to argue the ratings Edge drew were wrong, and one only needed to look at the actual Nielsen ratings to see that they were patently false.
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And the WWE's own site provided the pre-NYR (Cena's last night as champ until post-RR) ratings of 3.7.
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Oh, my God.... Do we honestly need to continue this fruitless rigmarole of ratings? If we do, let's make a thread called "Bitchfest Over Edge's Ratings". Come on, they gave Edge a test as champ, and it worked. It was just a preliminary. Look at what happened to Orton. Was anybodfy happy with Orton's title run? No, that's right, it was rushed, it was boring, and they were cramming down our throats a guy that nobody wanted to see as a babyface champ.

They tested Edge and now they're prepping for the Cena/HHH plan. Re-fucking-lax. Hell, after he beats Foley, he can go on about beating the Hardcore Legend and proving himself worthy of another title shot, blah, blah, blah.

Please, stop with the crying over numbers, and just assess the actual situation.
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Old 02-09-2006, 12:56 PM   #104
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Also, why are you so worked up, yet complaining people discussing the ratings are "bitching?"

Try not to be such a spazz if you're telling other people to relax. It's so pot-and-kettle.
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In case anyone's wondering, Cena as champion has not signifcantly droped the ratings since the end of Edge's reign. Ratings are at a 3.6, down from a 3.7, which is a decrease, but neither horrible nor truly indicitive of anywathing.
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In case anyone's wondering, Cena as champion has not signifcantly droped the ratings since the end of Edge's reign. Ratings are at a 3.6, down from a 3.7, which is a decrease, but neither horrible nor truly indicitive of anywathing.
It hasn't helped it at all, either.
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Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
It hasn't helped it at all, either.
Good argument, though irrelevent.
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