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Fucking hell.
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Have you ever heard about marketing? Of course it won't have an effect on people like you who would have bought it anyway. It will probably have an effect on the potential new customers. |
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Has an evil monkey...
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The Dolphin comparisson (looking back now) wasn't as solid as I first thought, but for the people that read the news then, anything about the future Gamecube was Dolphin news. People reading about the new info knew it as the Dolphin. Just not on as wide a scale because there wasn't anything particularly new coming with it - one of the main reasons more people knew about the Revolution was the mystery of the controller. I've already caught wind of what you were saying, I'm just bringing up the other side because Nintendo aren't completely in the wrong, even though I don't agree with the change myself. |
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Dude.
I didn't say they were in the wrong. I actually didn't even say it was a bad idea. However, it is. Dolphin was never a household name, and they made a poor business dicision in changing the Rev's name after it became one itself. You said it yourself--Different scale. So what the fuck are we arguing about? They can rename their products after they're released. Call the DS the nii or some shit. It's their right to do so. My argument was that this really wasn't a working title (And the Dolphin had constant remoinders, whereas the Revolution had more or less the total opposite), as they had been using it as more than a working title (Whether that was their intent, or not). Coming to the public with this level of promotion without a title is more or less unheard of, because (And here comes point two): It's a bloody horrible marketing move to change the name of a product when it's already so associated, especially to something that needs a full brochure just to tell you why they made the change. At the point you're trying to saturate the market with information on your new product, you're saying "yoink!" and damaging the work you've done so far. No, Nintendo isn't in the wrong (As in culpable of guilt), but they shouldn't have done this. |
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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All in all, wii just leaves a bad taste in my mouth...
...Hey, someone was trying for the most juvenile joke... |
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XBL TAG : Mootkinstein
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PS3,360...Wii
that doesn't sound right |
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I'm all there is
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haha, no way. I am still calling it Revolution.
"you guys wanna come see my wii" "you guys wanna come over and play with my wii" "Let's go whip your wii out and start playing man" "fuck, just broke my wii" Come on now, wtf? |
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All That Jazz
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All things considered, 360 is a pretty homoriffic name too.
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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I don't know. It looks like we're stuck between "blatantly uninspired" and "gimmick masquerading as innovation." |
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look at that hat
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Xbox 360 is quite ingenious. It was a play on Sony and Nintendo's next generation systems. A 360 degree turn is one full Revolution and it played well against Sony's Playstation 3. Both 3's gave it a sense of equalness.
Playstation 3, while just a number change, keeps everything that was good about the past two systems and sticks with it. So even though they don't have anything out yet, it's still a name that people will buy. |
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That Entenbrot, The Mask
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more like nintendo puu
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BAY BAY
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I just read on Joystiq that in England, "Koch" will distribute "Wii"
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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look at that hat
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back was an introspective of the human condition.
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look at that hat
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You're getting a Wii bit off subject. If Wii can just get back on topic.
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Shadow Conspircy leader
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It might not even be the actual name. Like this could all be one huge swerve and at E3 we'll get the actual name.
Even if it's not...I'm still buying it. It could be called Steaming Pile of Crap, but I'll buy it as long as the games are good. |
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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So, not knowing what there will be for games, you've decided to buy it, hiding behind the hollow assertion "as long as the games are good, I don't care what it's called."
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Shadow Conspircy leader
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Do you question where I get the pot I sell you?
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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4:20 dude.
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Crash Bang
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wii fucking hate it
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I've kinda gotten used to it now. Yeah there's like a million better names they coulda used but it's not even that bad.
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The Satanic Mechanic
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This thing had better be a ble to turn lead into gold if I'm gonna be getting one.
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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All That Jazz
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Nintendo so much, but outside of their staples, they really bring nothing new to the table. Not to say that any of the classic series are bad, not at all. But you can only see Mario/Zelda so many times before you want to kill yourself. Or in my case, anyway.
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Honestly, newer gens of Mario and Zelda really bore me.
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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look at that hat
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Well now it makes sense. Thanks.
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The Satanic Mechanic
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I love the Gamecube. I really do. The first party games are truly glorious. But frankly, I can't even tell you how many games I've missed out on by going with Nintendo over the years. Now that I'm at an age where I've got the cash to be able to get more than one console (the parental units certainly weren't going to get another one), I'm slowly getting into all the series that Nintendo doesn't have. Tekken 5, Guilty Gear XX, God of War, Soul Calibur 3, Devil May Cry 3. And those are all recent games. The list is long and starts all the way back in like 1996. Nintendo's habit of introducing a gimmick that does more harm than good has finally crossed the line with me. On the 64, the cartridges lacked space and the ability to produce quality sound. The memory card system was a joke. On the Gamecube, the small reverse-spinning discs (which were meant to and failed to thwart piracy) not only held less space, but alienated 3rd party support. The cross platform games that do come out on the Cube often have content cut out to fit on the discs. On top of that the ridiculous controller, with its tiny d-pad and awkwardly placed face buttons make playing fighting games (in addition to others), for lack of a better word, AWKWARD. The third party support is 60% kids games, 30% crap and 9% decent. That last 1% is for the few games that attempt to make up for lack of online play in the GC ports with other features (mostly EA Big games and the special offline version of Phantasy Star Online). And speaking of online games, why did Nintendo even bother manufacturing network adapters when there is only 1 game (Phantasy Star Online) that is even online capable? And Sega had to set up their own network for it too. And that whole GBA to Gamecube link up thing. The only non-Nintendo game that made use of it was FF Chrystal Chronicles. Fuck, EA wasn't even confident enough to release a proper Final Fantasy for the Cube. And Nintendo really thinks that fucking Wii will be truly online capable when their only means of going online is through wireless networks? The thing isn't the DS (where wireless actually makes sense) and most people with broadband DON'T have wireless routers. So much for all those downloadable games. They've made no announcements that concern some sort of attachment for 3rd party support. In fact, I'll bet that they're going to rely on Gamecube controllers to cover that. Look, I like the idea of innovative, interactive gameplay as much as the next guy, but if they don't have something for those who like classic controller gameplay, they'll be out of business by the next cycle. All I'm sayin' is that gimmicks go on top of the base function of the system, they're not the foundation itself. |
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Funky Fly is like my black canadian Jesus.
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I'm Mr. White Christmas
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Retards
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Don't you dare talk about my Jesus like that.
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Good post there Funky, but one thing..
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Okay, I got about sixty posts into this thread (which was about forty too many) before I just gave up.
I honestly don't give a shit what it's called, as long as it's fun to play. They could call it "Giant Ball Of Elephant Shit," but if the games are enjoyable, I'll buy one. And so will millions of others. The name "Nintendo" sells itself, no matter what they call the console itself. People bought the N64 because it was a Nintendo system. Ditto for the GameCube. It's the "Nintendo" that sells, not the product. |
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The Satanic Mechanic
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![]() Also, Loopy. That is true, but only for some people. If I learned anything in marketing class, it's that brand loyalty isn't as powerful as it used to be. That is why services beyond the base product (in this case, online play and backward compatibility) are becoming more commonplace. Besides, if you look at the sales figures for Nintendo (they're on the net somewhere ), they've declined by several million each system.
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