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Old 08-10-2006, 08:06 PM   #81
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:08 PM   #82
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I love how VAC just ignored my view on Cena. Can't handle the fact that some of us find him boring then?
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because of how ignorant Americans are
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:09 PM   #84
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Fuck you.
You think I'm happy about that, what with being American?

I'm talking the pricks who see two men kissing and call for a burning at the steak. Now, I don't know if you fall into that category or not, so...
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:10 PM   #85
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Then why didn't you say that instead of "Americans"?
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I love how VAC just ignored my view on Cena. Can't handle the fact that some of us find him boring then?
u can find him boring all u want. but do us a favor, nxt time turn off the tv instead of sitting thru it just so u can come on the internet later n complain.

i switch off the highlanders when they come on. its simple.
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You think I'm happy about that, what with being American?

I'm talking the pricks who see two men kissing and call for a burning at the steak. Now, I don't know if you fall into that category or not, so...
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:11 PM   #88
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Did you just compare a shooting star press to a german suplex? Furthermore, did you just refer to a german suplex as "a specialty move"? When Brock did that, he lept completely out of his realm. I"m not suggesting Cena do that.

And if you watch a non-squash match that Simon Dean is in, you sill see he uses all of his prowess. He does not tone himself down. Yes, he portrays a WWE character and not Nova, but Simon Dean is a fresh start for him.
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:12 PM   #89
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Then why didn't you say that instead of "Americans"?
Because it was easier to lump it into "Americans" because believe me, more people here are sheep than not.
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:15 PM   #90
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In all fairness, Brock didn't leap at all out of his relam with the Shooting Star Press. He used to do them ALL the time, no problem. What went wrong in that particular match was that he was just pretty much blown out from wrestling Angle for all that time. The match was supposed to finish with the SSP, but Brock was just simply too tired to hit it. Angle sensed something was wrong and moved.

But yeah, Brock was pretty good at the SSP.
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:15 PM   #91
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[COLOR="DarkOrchid"]Did you just compare a shooting star press to a german suplex? Furthermore, did you just refer to a german suplex as "a specialty move"? When Brock did that, he lept completely out of his realm. I"m not suggesting Cena do that. /COLOR]
jeez, take the joke in the context. get off your soap-box and take the stik out your ass!

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And if you watch a non-squash match that Simon Dean is in, you sill see he uses all of his prowess. He does not tone himself down...
really? bcos i've seen him do the swanton and his ddt-neckbreaker-combo all the time as simon dean
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:15 PM   #92
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out of his relm...?

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Old 08-10-2006, 08:16 PM   #93
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u can find him boring all u want. but do us a favor, nxt time turn off the tv instead of sitting thru it just so u can come on the internet later n complain.

i switch off the highlanders when they come on. its simple.

What do you think I do? Ofcourse I turn over if something boring happens. But you know what? I'm still going to complain about having to turn the channel. I want to be able to watch it all the way through like i could back in the day, and if im not being entertained like that then I have a right to complain about shit entertainment.

If one of the highlanders got a John Cena push you would be marking out for them to, I bet.
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:18 PM   #95
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If one of the highlanders got a John Cena push you would be marking out for them to, I bet.
That's basically what happened to the Spirit Squad.

So VAC, are you a SS fan?
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Is that who it is? Haha.

I bet its really sadistic, or vermaat.
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:19 PM   #98
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The Spirit Squad is much more talented than The Highlanders.
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:20 PM   #99
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What do you think I do? Ofcourse I turn over if something boring happens. But you know what? I'm still going to complain about having to turn the channel. I want to be able to watch it all the way through like i could back in the day.
whatever generation, whatever time, whatever fed, they will always be a john cena-typed person getting a push (which you think) he doesnt deserve. its part of wrestling so ur complaining is futile bcos it will always happen. in this instance, its cena.

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If one of the highlanders got a John Cena push you would be marking out for them to, I bet.
I think the word you're looking for is fickle. and no, i am not
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The Spirit Squad is much more talented than The Highlanders.
It doesn't mean they deserve the push they had, which has seemed to disappeared now, thank God.
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:21 PM   #101
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But it does make their push a hell of a lot more tolerable than a Highlanders one would be.
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Is that who it is? Haha.

I bet its really sadistic, or vermaat.
Nope. I believe Vermaat is RP and Sadistic was Xero. Alter-egos are still gay regardless
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:22 PM   #103
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But it does make their push a hell of a lot more tolerable than a Highlanders one would be.
Okay, I'll agree with that. But they still shouldn't have had the spot.
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Nope. I believe Vermaat is RP and Sadistic was Xero. Alter-egos are still gay regardless
I'm glad everyone picked up on my capitalization of "sadistic" back there.
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Okay, I'll agree with that. But they still shouldn't have had the spot.
Why not? They're a talented group of guys. They were something innovative. They were entertaining. Were they supposed to pay dues or something?
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Why not? They're a talented group of guys. They were something innovative. They were entertaining. Were they supposed to pay dues or something?
Well they weren't supposed to main event half of the first half of the year on RAW. You're telling me that to push someone you HAVE to push them in the main event right from the get-go, and shove them down our throats? Because that's what they did.
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whatever generation, whatever time, whatever fed, they will always be a john cena-typed person getting a push (which you think) he doesnt deserve. its part of wrestling so ur complaining is futile bcos it will always happen. in this instance, its cena.
Remember back when wrestling was entertaining all the way through a show? When there was Rock/Angle/ HHH all at their best? I didn't see any undeserved pushes then. Or not any as undeserved as what cena is getting.

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I think the word you're looking for is fickle. and no, i am not
The fact that you're a Cena mark means you're fickle, sorry but its true.

Fucking hell boredom does make you do strange things, why the hell am I wasting my time with a Cena fan?

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I would wait until a good year to see how effective their push has been. If at least two of them haven't dropped off the face of the planet following their imminent break-up then it could well be seen as a 'master-stroke'. They would have taken a couple of complete unknowns (including Kerwin's caddy, for fucks sake) and turned them into reliable mid-carders, if not main eventers.
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Remember back when wrestling was entertaining all the way through a show? When there was Rock/Angle/ HHH all at their best? I didn't see any undeserved pushes then. Or not any as undeserved as what cena is getting.
gr8 idea of using the golden years of the wwe as an example. those years were so special and unique that there bound to be an anomaly.

So youv found one example (and even then the triple h saga was just about to unfold) but ur ignoring jarrett in tna, hogan in wwf/wcw, triple h in wwe and the nepotism between the von erich and rhodes families. tsk. what a shame

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The fact that you're a Cena mark means you're fickle, sorry but its true.

Fucking hell boredom does make you do strange things, why the hell am I wasting my time with a Cena fan?
Complete prejudice. the very fact im a cena fan means nothing. i like him bcos he's aimed at my demographic and he appeal to me. think back to who u liked when u wer just starting off watching wrestling. was it someone who u'd be proud to say now? or are you going to make it up like afterlife and say you've like scotty 2 hotty all along. yeh, thats the real reason he got drawn in.... for the fucking worm!!!!1111
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Complete prejudice. the very fact im a cena fan means nothing. i like him bcos he's aimed at my demographic and he appeal to me.
Are you a younger than 13 male or younger than 20 female? Because if not, you're not in the demo.
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:41 PM   #112
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could you not be bothered to look at my profile? or are you trying to prove something by saying he's only for immature audiences?

if u like cena, u like cena. it should not be restricted to age. yeh, it'd be weird if i were 25 and i liked him, but im not
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:43 PM   #113
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jeez, take the joke in the context. get off your soap-box and take the stik out your ass!



really? bcos i've seen him do the swanton and his ddt-neckbreaker-combo all the time as simon dean


1. I don't have a stick in my ass, I have a point that you're ignoring.

2. No, Simon Dean doesn't wrestle exactly as Nova did when he's on tv.

3. And I'm sure Brock was great with an SSP. But as he'd refrained from such high calibur high-fly moves up to that point, it was a definite bad idea.

4. 2 and 3 are just ways to dilude #1.
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:44 PM   #114
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could you not be bothered to look at my profile? or are you trying to prove something by saying he's only for immature audiences?

if u like cena, u like cena. it should not be restricted to age. yeh, it'd be weird if i were 25 and i liked him, but im not
You see, though, one type of demographic IS restricted by age. Unless you're a white boy who listens to horrible rap. Then you ARE in the right demo and I apologize.
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:44 PM   #115
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gr8 idea of using the golden years of the wwe as an example. those years were so special and unique that there bound to be an anomaly.
The attitude era was what got me into wrestling. So naturally i'm going to pick that example.
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So youv found one example (and even then the triple h saga was just about to unfold) but ur ignoring jarrett in tna, hogan in wwf/wcw, triple h in wwe and the nepotism between the von erich and rhodes families. tsk. what a shame
Yes, and was the Triple H saga entertaining? No. Is JJ entertaining? No. You're basically proving my point for me. Cena's push was as boring as those examples you mentioned.

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Complete prejudice. the very fact im a cena fan means nothing. i like him bcos he's aimed at my demographic and he appeal to me. think back to who u liked when u wer just starting off watching wrestling. was it someone who u'd be proud to say now? or are you going to make it up like afterlife and say you've like scotty 2 hotty all along. yeh, thats the real reason he got drawn in.... for the fucking worm!!!!1111
When I started watching wrestling which was in 2000, it was the Rock/HHH/ Foley (etc...)that got me watching.

And please don't compare me with afterlife, i don't believe anyone who says they got into wrestling cause of people like S2H.
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:51 PM   #116
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like him bcos he's aimed at my demographic and he appeal to me. think back to who u liked when u wer just starting off watching wrestling. was it someone who u'd be proud to say now? or are you going to make it up like afterlife and say you've like scotty 2 hotty all along. yeh, thats the real reason he got drawn in.... for the fucking worm!!!!1111

I admit, I haven't known Scotty since his birth, so I can't say I liked him "all along". But your judgement of me as a Scotty fan seems a bit hypocritical.

Oh, and that bit about you liking him b/c you're in the demographic...that means you like him b/c they want you to like him, and not because he deserves it.
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LMAO

Oh, my God.

I did not "get into wrestling" because of Scotty 2 Hotty.

For the love of crap.

I started watching the show in the late 90s because a friend of mine liked it and I wanted to find out why. I enjoyed the shows and I liked most of the characters. But I"ve always been an underdog fan. I loved Foley, and Angle was an instant favorite. But I loved Steven Richards as the leader of RTC, and Too Cool was phenominal showmanship.

And fuck it anyway, I don't have to explain myself. I"m here because I like wrestling, and that's all you need to know.
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I trust this opened ur eyes, because you nearly just got owned by a n00b. Just because this guy liked Cena didn't mean his points weren't valid, because the majority were actually from my brain, albeit through his mouth. And I know that these opinions would have had more respect if they were from me...

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Did you just compare a shooting star press to a german suplex? Furthermore, did you just refer to a german suplex as "a specialty move"? When Brock did that, he lept completely out of his realm
No, he was performing a move he’d successfully executed many time on the independents. If you want help I even posted a video for you. I guess that makes you ignorant for not knowing that yet blabbing about it.

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And if you watch a non-squash match that Simon Dean is in, you sill see he uses all of his prowess. He does not tone himself down. Yes, he portrays a WWE character and not Nova, but Simon Dean is a fresh start for him
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Simon Dean doesn't wrestle exactly as Nova did when he's on tv
So, what’s your point here? Simon Dean is being held back… we can all see that he’s not being allowed to do the things he can do. Whether that’s good or bad for him is irrelevant, as my basic point came back to this…

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put urself in vinces shoes, would u let cena change his way if he was the no 1 draw and merchandise seller? or put urself in cena's, wud you jeopardise ur position and risk getting in the dog house when you've got nothing to gain, but everyfin to lose?
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i am saying that the wwe doesnt always let wrestlers be themselves. they are packaged for what they think is the good of the product. they havent given nova a chance when we all know he's amazzzzzing!

its not as easy as cena turning round and saying 'hey, i wanna be me now" bcos he cant.
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Well they weren't supposed to main event half of the first half of the year on RAW. You're telling me that to push someone you HAVE to push them in the main event right from the get-go, and shove them down our throats? Because that's what they did.
I didn't say you HAVE to do anything. The only two things I said was that they were more talented than the Highlanders and that makes them more tolerable. THAT'S ALL.
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