You want a war? You got one!

[Pepsi Man]

Originally Posted by M-A-G If Hall doesn't want a full-time schedule then why bother even trying to go with the WWE in the first place?

Shawn Michaels
Undertaker
Ric Flair
Hulk Hogan
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Sgt. Slaughter ()

The WWE didn't seem all that adamant against Hall having a part time schedule the last time they did business with him, although if I remember correctly, they ended up working him more than his contract required him to work.

[M-A-G]

There's a difference between full-time schedule and being on the road full-time. A full time schedule means you're constantly wrestling which is what none of those guys you mentioned have. Hall just doesn't to be on the road all the time which is what this alleged angle would require.

[Pepsi Man]

Originally Posted by M-A-G There's a difference between full-time schedule and being on the road full-time. A full time schedule means you're constantly wrestling which is what none of those guys you mentioned have. Hall just doesn't to be on the road all the time which is what this alleged angle would require.

So now you know exactly what Hall wants? (Oh, and the guys I mentioned sans the McMahons aren't on the road ALL the time anymore.)

[M-A-G]

Originally posted by Huracanrana Hall also said that he doesn't want to go on the road full-time, in which case TNA would probably be a better fit for him than WWE.

[Mr. Nerfect]

This feud will be UNACCEPTABLE (to quote Vermaat) if it is the old guys only. Nash shouldn't even wrestle. Just have him beat Lawler in a match, where the winner gets to be RAW's colour commentator.

Don't make either group faces or heels. Have Eric Bischoff charged by Mr McMahon with getting rid of DX. Maybe have it be Shane McMahon's idea (they seem to be teasing another McMahon feud). Vince hates the idea of bringing Bischoff back, but agrees to make him General Manager of RAW again, if he destroys DX.

Eric Bischoff re-hires Kevin Nash and Scott Hall, who do their crazy stuff for a few weeks, not officially being called "The nWo" or "The Outsiders". They can even lawn dart Super Crazy into a production truck. Eventually Randy Orton gets caught up in a makeshift tag team with Scott Hall, and the two can even win the World Tag Team Championship, or something. Orton's "rKo" shirt is sold again, and they really tease the nWo being re-formed.

I'd make this whole thing interpromotional. Paul London and Brian Kendrick would make great DX members. Both were trained by Shawn Michaels. Also add Lance Cade to DX, even though Trevor Murdoch wants to join the nWo. There's a feud for Heat for you (they should try and make this show mean something, again). Justin Credible and Stevie Richards join in ECW. Credible remains an ECW guy, while Richards makes the (likely unnoticed) jump to RAW.

X-Pac is a member of DX, and he revives the Light Heavyweight Championship, which pisses off Gregory Helms. Sugar Shane challenges X-Pac to a unification match. Helms wins, and the Light Heavyweight Championship and Cruiserweight Championships as unified. Helms is made a member of the nWo. Ric Flair kind of joins DX (you can tell they're thinking about it), as do The Highlanders. Basically a gang war breaks out, and everyone is either wearing DX or nWo colours (except for a few exceptions). I know this didn't exactly work in WCW, but it may work this time, simply because you have two rival gangs, and growing in size, even if you are just adding minions makes a lot of sense.

Someone like Val Venis can join DX because he doesn't want the egos of Kevin Nash and Scott Hall in the WWE. He also hates Eric Bischoff (storyline-wise). Johnny Nitro and Melina would also join DX for these reasons (Bischoff fired Nitro when he was Bischoff's Assistant). The Spirit Squad could be converted over as nWo members. Eugene would be added to DX, seeing as he hates his "uncle", Eric Bischoff, but he would then turn on DX, and start teaming with Rob Conway in the nWo. A lot of guys I would leave, but a lot like Shelton Benjamin could really use direction like this.

DX:
-Triple H
-Shawn Michaels
-Charlie Haas
-Johnny Nitro
-Kane (loose association)
-Lance Cade
-Melina
-Ric Flair
-The Highlanders
-Super Crazy
-Val Venis
-Victoria
-Viscera
-X-Pac
-Brian Kendrick
-Jillian Hall
-Paul London
-Balls Mahoney
-Danny Doring
-Justin Credible
-Stevie Richards

nWo:
-Kevin Nash
-Scott Hall
-Jeff Hardy
-Johnny Jeter
-Ken Doane
-Matt Hardy
-Mike Mondo
-Nick Dinsmore
-Nick Mitchell
-Nick Nemeth
-Randy Orton
-Rob Conway
-Shelton Benjamin
-Torrie Wilson
-Trevor Murdoch
-Elijah Burke
-Gregory Helms
-Joey Mercury
-Psicosis
-Sylvester Terkay
-Big Show
-Kelly Kelly
-Mike Knox
-Test

[Pepsi Man]

Originally Posted by Alienoid06 This feud will be UNACCEPTABLE (to quote Vermaat) if it is the old guys only. Nash shouldn't even wrestle. Just have him beat Lawler in a match, where the winner gets to be RAW's colour commentator. Don't make either group faces or heels. Have Eric Bischoff charged by Mr McMahon with getting rid of DX. Maybe have it be Shane McMahon's idea (they seem to be teasing another McMahon feud). Vince hates the idea of bringing Bischoff back, but agrees to make him General Manager of RAW again, if he destroys DX. Eric Bischoff re-hires Kevin Nash and Scott Hall, who do their crazy stuff for a few weeks, not officially being called "The nWo" or "The Outsiders". They can even lawn dart Super Crazy into a production truck. Eventually Randy Orton gets caught up in a makeshift tag team with Scott Hall, and the two can even win the World Tag Team Championship, or something. Orton's "rKo" shirt is sold again, and they really tease the nWo being re-formed. I'd make this whole thing interpromotional. Paul London and Brian Kendrick would make great DX members. Both were trained by Shawn Michaels. Also add Lance Cade to DX, even though Trevor Murdoch wants to join the nWo. There's a feud for Heat for you (they should try and make this show mean something, again). Justin Credible and Stevie Richards join in ECW. Credible remains an ECW guy, while Richards makes the (likely unnoticed) jump to RAW. X-Pac is a member of DX, and he revives the Light Heavyweight Championship, which pisses off Gregory Helms. Sugar Shane challenges X-Pac to a unification match. Helms wins, and the Light Heavyweight Championship and Cruiserweight Championships as unified. Helms is made a member of the nWo. Ric Flair kind of joins DX (you can tell they're thinking about it), as do The Highlanders. Basically a gang war breaks out, and everyone is either wearing DX or nWo colours (except for a few exceptions). I know this didn't exactly work in WCW, but it may work this time, simply because you have two rival gangs, and growing in size, even if you are just adding minions makes a lot of sense. Someone like Val Venis can join DX because he doesn't want the egos of Kevin Nash and Scott Hall in the WWE. He also hates Eric Bischoff (storyline-wise). Johnny Nitro and Melina would also join DX for these reasons (Bischoff fired Nitro when he was Bischoff's Assistant). The Spirit Squad could be converted over as nWo members. Eugene would be added to DX, seeing as he hates his "uncle", Eric Bischoff, but he would then turn on DX, and start teaming with Rob Conway in the nWo. A lot of guys I would leave, but a lot like Shelton Benjamin could really use direction like this. DX: -Triple H -Shawn Michaels -Charlie Haas -Johnny Nitro -Kane (loose association) -Lance Cade -Melina -Ric Flair -The Highlanders -Super Crazy -Val Venis -Victoria -Viscera -X-Pac -Brian Kendrick -Jillian Hall -Paul London -Balls Mahoney -Danny Doring -Justin Credible -Stevie Richards nWo: -Kevin Nash -Scott Hall -Jeff Hardy -Johnny Jeter -Ken Doane -Matt Hardy -Mike Mondo -Nick Dinsmore -Nick Mitchell -Nick Nemeth -Randy Orton -Rob Conway -Shelton Benjamin -Torrie Wilson -Trevor Murdoch -Elijah Burke -Gregory Helms -Joey Mercury -Psicosis -Sylvester Terkay -Big Show -Kelly Kelly -Mike Knox -Test

God no.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool Anyone who doesn't like this idea of nWo vs. DX is a faggot.

Close.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Better Than You Shame on the WWE for trying to cash in on what could be one of the biggest feuds wrestling has ever seen!

Excuse me? Did I rant about this being a bad idea, or did I say I wouldn't watch it? It's not about shame, it's about my lack of interest. But if you want to go that route, DX has been a consistantly WORSE draw than John Cena.

If you go by the ratings, this "New DX" has been on top during a period where ratings have dipped below three at least once, where Cena on top was drawing a steady 3.6. Hell, even if the rest of the show is getting worse, if DX was a significant draw, ratings of one hour would still be going up.

NWO didn't do any better, either. What makes you actually think this "greatest feud ever" would be a smart idea?

Again, that wasn't my argument, but you seem to insist on being punktarded, so...

[YOUR Hero]

DX and nWo are like circus rides. They are awesome the first time and even a couple time thereafter, but afterawhile, you need to get new rides, cause these ones are no longer fun.


ANALOGY 101: A+

[hb2k]

It will start out as a feud between DX and the nWo. However, the long-term plan is for them to unite to take on the REAL greatest force in sports entertainment history

[The Naitch]

WWE will probably screw this up like all the other potentially good angles that flopped before

[hb2k]

To add to Kane Knight's point about DX drawing worse than Cena, here's a little tidbit from the Observer - the DX Vs. Kennedy/Regal/Finlay main event from Raw a couple of weeks back actually lost 123,000 viewers, which is disasterous, as Raw main events routinely lead to a gain of over several hundred thousand and is the most watched portion of the show. In this case, the DX Vs. SD match was actually the lowest watched part of the show and lost viewers.

DX Vs. nWo doesn't have much longevity in actuality. Once the nostalgia is played out after 3 weeks the bloom is off the rose.

[Kane Knight]

Though Vince probably doesn't know any of that.

DX was a draw in the 90s, and what was good then, is good now, right?

RIGHT?

ReST iN PieCeS!

[TerranRich]

This feud would be MAKE IT or BREAK IT for WWE! They need to bring in...



DISCO INFERNO!! BURN BABY BURN....in PieCeS!!

[Stickman]

Originally Posted by hb2k To add to Kane Knight's point about DX drawing worse than Cena, here's a little tidbit from the Observer - the DX Vs. Kennedy/Regal/Finlay main event from Raw a couple of weeks back actually lost 123,000 viewers, which is disasterous, as Raw main events routinely lead to a gain of over several hundred thousand and is the most watched portion of the show. In this case, the DX Vs. SD match was actually the lowest watched part of the show and lost viewers. DX Vs. nWo doesn't have much longevity in actuality. Once the nostalgia is played out after 3 weeks the bloom is off the rose.

Seriously, Regal/kennedy/Finlay? Yeah, it musta been all DX's fault people didn't watch.

[Sepholio]

I think they should feud for a month, maybe 2 if its a layover month for a RAW PPV. In the end though, I think they should swerve everyone and have a kliq reunion and have the kliq destroy the mcmahons. In the event Nash/Hall are only to be hired for several months, you could have them fired by McMahon after the kliq reunion for turning on him and siding with DX. Perhaps even possibly "fire" HBK first (he needs a break) which makes it where in the event Hall and Nash are subsequently fired, we don't have HHH/HBK still united fighting the McMahons.

[Sepholio]

Actually, instead of the angle sort of ending with the kliq destroying the McMahons, have the kliq as tweener heels at that point fued with a returning 4 horsemen for a little while. This scenario could be used as closure to all 3 of the factions involved (nWo, DX, and 4H), would result in huge ratings, and could even be used as closure to Evolutions old break-up, what with Flair vs HHH and all. I would mark out.

[Crippla]

Originally Posted by Alienoid06 This feud will be UNACCEPTABLE (to quote Vermaat) if it is the old guys only. Nash shouldn't even wrestle. Just have him beat Lawler in a match, where the winner gets to be RAW's colour commentator. Don't make either group faces or heels. Have Eric Bischoff charged by Mr McMahon with getting rid of DX. Maybe have it be Shane McMahon's idea (they seem to be teasing another McMahon feud). Vince hates the idea of bringing Bischoff back, but agrees to make him General Manager of RAW again, if he destroys DX. Eric Bischoff re-hires Kevin Nash and Scott Hall, who do their crazy stuff for a few weeks, not officially being called "The nWo" or "The Outsiders". They can even lawn dart Super Crazy into a production truck. Eventually Randy Orton gets caught up in a makeshift tag team with Scott Hall, and the two can even win the World Tag Team Championship, or something. Orton's "rKo" shirt is sold again, and they really tease the nWo being re-formed. I'd make this whole thing interpromotional. Paul London and Brian Kendrick would make great DX members. Both were trained by Shawn Michaels. Also add Lance Cade to DX, even though Trevor Murdoch wants to join the nWo. There's a feud for Heat for you (they should try and make this show mean something, again). Justin Credible and Stevie Richards join in ECW. Credible remains an ECW guy, while Richards makes the (likely unnoticed) jump to RAW. X-Pac is a member of DX, and he revives the Light Heavyweight Championship, which pisses off Gregory Helms. Sugar Shane challenges X-Pac to a unification match. Helms wins, and the Light Heavyweight Championship and Cruiserweight Championships as unified. Helms is made a member of the nWo. Ric Flair kind of joins DX (you can tell they're thinking about it), as do The Highlanders. Basically a gang war breaks out, and everyone is either wearing DX or nWo colours (except for a few exceptions). I know this didn't exactly work in WCW, but it may work this time, simply because you have two rival gangs, and growing in size, even if you are just adding minions makes a lot of sense. Someone like Val Venis can join DX because he doesn't want the egos of Kevin Nash and Scott Hall in the WWE. He also hates Eric Bischoff (storyline-wise). Johnny Nitro and Melina would also join DX for these reasons (Bischoff fired Nitro when he was Bischoff's Assistant). The Spirit Squad could be converted over as nWo members. Eugene would be added to DX, seeing as he hates his "uncle", Eric Bischoff, but he would then turn on DX, and start teaming with Rob Conway in the nWo. A lot of guys I would leave, but a lot like Shelton Benjamin could really use direction like this. DX: -Triple H -Shawn Michaels -Charlie Haas -Johnny Nitro -Kane (loose association) -Lance Cade -Melina -Ric Flair -The Highlanders -Super Crazy -Val Venis -Victoria -Viscera -X-Pac -Brian Kendrick -Jillian Hall -Paul London -Balls Mahoney -Danny Doring -Justin Credible -Stevie Richards nWo: -Kevin Nash -Scott Hall -Jeff Hardy -Johnny Jeter -Ken Doane -Matt Hardy -Mike Mondo -Nick Dinsmore -Nick Mitchell -Nick Nemeth -Randy Orton -Rob Conway -Shelton Benjamin -Torrie Wilson -Trevor Murdoch -Elijah Burke -Gregory Helms -Joey Mercury -Psicosis -Sylvester Terkay -Big Show -Kelly Kelly -Mike Knox -Test

You can't have the WHOLE WWE ROSTER be in DX or nWo.

[Stickman]

Originally Posted by CanadianCrippla You can't have the WHOLE WWE ROSTER be in DX or nWo.

WCW did it

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Stickman WCW did it

I KNEW IT! Alienoid is Vince Russo!

[Crippla]

Originally Posted by Stickman WCW did it

Yeah, look where they are now....

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by CanadianCrippla Yeah, look where they are now....

Posting ideas to push Dough Basham.

[Better Than You]

As an independent observer in all of this, I don’t have just two words for Hall and Nash, but instead, I have five words of wisdom: DO NOT AGREE TO THIS!

This is a dream gang fight that we have wanted to see for nine years, but we are four years late with this one. The last time we saw the nWo in WWE was back in 2002, when Kevin Nash went down with a torn knee ligament. Triple H came over to RAW from Smackdown only two weeks later, in what was the infamous “DX Reunion Tease” heel turn. My feeling is they should’ve done the DX-nWo gang fight then, not now.

Reason being, if you fast-forward four years later to today, you’ll see that Scott Hall is nearing 48, has little to offer, and there’s not even a guarantee that he’ll stay out of trouble with the alcohol long enough to utter his very-infamous line, “Hey yo!” Meanwhile, Kevin Nash is four years older, and in even worse shape now than he was when he went down in a crumbling heap in that tag team match on RAW four years ago. So, aside from nostalgia, you tell me if this is a good idea or not! Personally, I don’t see it that way.

I mean, let’s face it; while we’re on the subject of nostalgic gang fights, I say bring back some other groups, albeit minus a few original members, to feud with either DX, the nWo, or both:

The Three Horsemen: Ric Flair, Arn Anderson (manager), and Chris Benoit
Hey, come on, Flair fans! Don’t tell me you wouldn’t get a major kick out of Flair and Benoit chopping the hides clean off Triple H’s and Shawn Michaels’ chests. And, if nothing else, this gives fans of the Horsemen another chance to hear the legendary Arn Anderson speak. Granted, he may no longer be able to wrestle, but the man can still speak.

Nation of Domination: Ron Simmons, the Rock, Mark Henry, and the Godfather
Let’s face it, what WWE fan wouldn’t want to see Rock come back as a heel to team with the wrecking machine known as Mark Henry, the wrestler formerly known as Faarooq, and the Godfather, the man behind the “HOOOOO Train!” Throw Viscera into the mix and you’ve got a recipe for disaster…figuratively and literally.

The Corporate Ministry: The McMahons, the Undertaker, Edge, and Viscera
How's that for an unbeatable combo! The resources of the McMahons, the aura of the Undertaker, Edge's ability, and that 500-pound freak in pajamas. Plus, we get to hear one of my all-time favorite theme songs ever once again!

And all of those would be just as wise as running this doomed to be shit NWO/DX angle.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Better Than You As an independent observer in all of this, I don’t have just two words for Hall and Nash, but instead, I have five words of wisdom: DO NOT AGREE TO THIS!

Way to contradict yourself, punktard.

[Better Than You]

Originally Posted by Better Than You Shame on the WWE for trying to cash in on what could be one of the biggest feuds wrestling has ever seen!

I stand by that. I can't blame the WWE for doing this if they do. However, I do not support it. On one hand the business, on the other logic. Different worlds. The above statement was my opinion of the situation, which I felt needed clarifying after your reaction.

[hb2k]

Oh man...OK - it WOULDN'T be huge. It's not 2 hot concepts in their prime doing battle, it's 2 nostalgia retreads brought back almost a decade since they originated. It might pop one buyrate and lead to some curiosity ratings, but it would never be something to turn the business around. As for...

Seriously, Regal/kennedy/Finlay? Yeah, it musta been all DX's fault people didn't watch.

Did I say it was? Point is, a main event increase in viewership by 500,000 people is considered a disappointment. And DX Vs. Sd lost 123,000 viewers. Where you feel the blame is is up to you, but the truth is, a DX Match bombed in the ratings, and when the whole point of bringing them back was the nostalgia curiosity factor, and their match is losing viewers in a spot where it should be gaining, it isn't good no matter how you want to spin things.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Better Than You I stand by that. I can't blame the WWE for doing this if they do. However, I do not support it. On one hand the business, on the other logic. Different worlds. The above statement was my opinion of the situation, which I felt needed clarifying after your reaction.

There is no logic behind that "business." You are making an artificial distinction to cover your tracks.