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Old 11-29-2006, 07:36 AM   #81
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What was the first strike?
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Old 11-29-2006, 07:45 AM   #82
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Lesnar beat Taker clean, I think. That would be the last time it happened to my recollection.

Anyway, Batista? I agree that the winner should be a young guy. Cena, Orton (why not give him another chance?), Kennedy, or even CM Punk. Batista can't have many years left in him even if he stays healthy, so what would the point be?
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Old 11-29-2006, 07:57 AM   #83
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They should so have Kenny help Mr. Kennedy win his alleged Last Ride Match with The Undertaker at Armageddon. Have him stat calling himself "Ken Doane" and working some great matches with Chris Benoit, etc. Everyone admits Doane has talent, but when he challenges The Undertaker to a match at WrestleMania, people talk about how crazy he is.

Basically make it WrestleMania 21, done right. Ken Doane gets the pinfall, and ends the streak of The Undertaker. You have a new icon.
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Old 11-29-2006, 08:27 AM   #84
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Well he is one of the consistantly liked wrestlers in the WWE, on these forums no one has said anything bad about him. He has great drawing power, and usually his feuds are good, and his matches good to watch.
Are we still talking the Undertaker?
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Old 11-29-2006, 10:11 AM   #85
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And I can't be sure but I'm pretty sure Vader beat the Undertaker clean at Royal Rumble 1997. There was no outside intereference that I can remember but I think the ref messed up somehow causing Taker to chokeslam him after the match.
Nah, that one, I KNOW there was some interference in, possibly from JC.
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Old 11-29-2006, 10:15 AM   #86
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Are we still talking the Undertaker?
Not sure if your making a joke, as I assume you read my posts above, but if not, no im talking about Kane.
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Old 11-29-2006, 10:16 AM   #87
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Nah, that one, I KNOW there was some interference in, possibly from JC.
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Old 11-29-2006, 10:21 AM   #88
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Old 11-29-2006, 10:33 AM   #89
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Old 11-29-2006, 10:59 AM   #90
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Ken Doane? WrestleMania 23? I say it's too soon. I don't know, would 4 months be enough build-up from male cheerleader to near-main-eventer? I still say give the streak-ending win to Kennedy. He's in a feud with Taker right now and drawing it out until WrestleMania makes so much sense. Batista has nothing to do with Undertaker at the moment, and using Kenny for this match seems wacky in a way. Maybe WrestleMania 24.
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:02 AM   #91
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They should so have Kenny help Mr. Kennedy win his alleged Last Ride Match with The Undertaker at Armageddon. Have him stat calling himself "Ken Doane" and working some great matches with Chris Benoit, etc. Everyone admits Doane has talent, but when he challenges The Undertaker to a match at WrestleMania, people talk about how crazy he is.

Basically make it WrestleMania 21, done right. Ken Doane gets the pinfall, and ends the streak of The Undertaker. You have a new icon.

I'm sorry but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! [/Darth Vader]
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:31 AM   #92
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Oh, I agree, WWE ran out of strikes with me long ago, But I think that pushed me off the edge, and was hanging by a finger, right up to now. and should Taker lose at Wrestlemania should Taker lose, WWE will lose a fan, and likely a few more then me.
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:33 PM   #94
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You know, 10 years ago, if there was an internet used by marks, I bet Smarks would have been saying the same thing, just replace Undertaker with Andre and Batista with Hulk Hogan.

The issue here is: Batista is a big star, like him or not. He is only one win away from what many would picture as "Immortality." That win? The Undertaker at Wrestlemania. I've actually remembered seeing the Orton feud and thinking "Orton isn't a big enough name to pull this off. If it were Batista at Wrestlemania Next Year..."

Yeah, my opinion means shit, but I actually think that maybe not from a wrestling standpoint, but from a business standpoint, this is a good idea. Streaks like these are made to be ended. It puts over the guy who ends the streak. You could say it should be Carlito or Shelton or Doug Basham until you're blue in the face. The things is, the casual fan can't see Carlito beating the Undertaker at Wrestlemania. The casual fan can't see Shelton Benjamin beating the Undertaker at Wrestlemania. The casual fan CAN see Batista beating the Undertaker at Wrestlemania.

For the record, I'm saying that as a Carlito fan. He should have the Intercontinental Title by then, though.
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The only person that would end UT streak would be Cena as he is Hogan of our day and they'll ram him down our throats.
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I don't know why they don't do a DX - Brothers Of Destruction feud heading into Mania. Something that hasn't been done before.

After DX defeat Orton & Edge eventually, DX come out after on Raw and announce that they are the most dominant team in the WWE, ever. So many teams (Trips could list them) have tried to keep them down, but no-one could ever end DX.

The lights go out, the fire pyro goes and out come the Brothers. Taker gets on the mic and says that there is one team they have never faced. One team that has been through life & death together. Triple H is one of the many members of the streak, and it's time to add Michaels to it.

Michaels and Trips could do their funny faces, run away when they come to the ring. They could run off saying they aren't facing them, 'we aren't crazy'. They could then show up on SD to cost them a match or something. Build up the cowardly nature of them. Have them feud across the Royal Rumble, where Triple H is dominating, and Kane followed by Taker come out. Keep the Brothers chasing DX and never really catching them, while DX don't do anything particularly BAD to them, until say, a month before Mania.

Have a contract signing on Raw, have DX, still playing up the scared act, and during the signing they jump the brothers, busting them both open with sledgehammers and baseball bats. Have DX turn nasty at that single point, the crowd would be all over them. Have them say that Takers 'legacy' will dengerate in front of everyones eyes, as people have forgotten who they are.

Have them mock the Brothers for the weeks running up to Mania, with Taker doing his normal 'smoke around the ring/video package thing' that they always do.

Then have the match at Mania, have Taker pin Michaels.

This gives Kane a main event match at Mania, the match will sell on its own, gives DX something fresh and an ACTUAL team to go up against and eliminates the huge problem that there just isn't any mid-to-upper carder on any show that currently deserves to take Takers streak.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:35 PM   #97
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Ken Doane? WrestleMania 23? I say it's too soon. I don't know, would 4 months be enough build-up from male cheerleader to near-main-eventer? I still say give the streak-ending win to Kennedy. He's in a feud with Taker right now and drawing it out until WrestleMania makes so much sense. Batista has nothing to do with Undertaker at the moment, and using Kenny for this match seems wacky in a way. Maybe WrestleMania 24.
that's true. It's not like they have almost five monthes to get something going.
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It's hard to know what you mean, Destor, when you quote the whole post.

If you mean Batista, I suppose you're right. But I would like the Kennedy/Taker feud to go there instead of create a totally new feud between Batista and Taker. Just me though.
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I've already echoed my sentiments in the other thread. At this point, I hope they change their minds (it happens).

Altho I'm shocked they've actually booked that far in advance. WWE + advanced booking??? :???:
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It's hard to know what you mean, Destor, when you quote the whole post.

If you mean Batista, I suppose you're right. But I would like the Kennedy/Taker feud to go there instead of create a totally new feud between Batista and Taker. Just me though.
My bad I forgot the bold. But yeah, Batista Taker was obviously was what I was talking. 5 monthes is a LONG time to tie up one fued and start another.
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I don't know why they don't do a DX - Brothers Of Destruction feud heading into Mania. Something that hasn't been done before.

After DX defeat Orton & Edge eventually, DX come out after on Raw and announce that they are the most dominant team in the WWE, ever. So many teams (Trips could list them) have tried to keep them down, but no-one could ever end DX.

The lights go out, the fire pyro goes and out come the Brothers. Taker gets on the mic and says that there is one team they have never faced. One team that has been through life & death together. Triple H is one of the many members of the streak, and it's time to add Michaels to it.

Michaels and Trips could do their funny faces, run away when they come to the ring. They could run off saying they aren't facing them, 'we aren't crazy'. They could then show up on SD to cost them a match or something. Build up the cowardly nature of them. Have them feud across the Royal Rumble, where Triple H is dominating, and Kane followed by Taker come out. Keep the Brothers chasing DX and never really catching them, while DX don't do anything particularly BAD to them, until say, a month before Mania.

Have a contract signing on Raw, have DX, still playing up the scared act, and during the signing they jump the brothers, busting them both open with sledgehammers and baseball bats. Have DX turn nasty at that single point, the crowd would be all over them. Have them say that Takers 'legacy' will dengerate in front of everyones eyes, as people have forgotten who they are.

Have them mock the Brothers for the weeks running up to Mania, with Taker doing his normal 'smoke around the ring/video package thing' that they always do.

Then have the match at Mania, have Taker pin Michaels.

This gives Kane a main event match at Mania, the match will sell on its own, gives DX something fresh and an ACTUAL team to go up against and eliminates the huge problem that there just isn't any mid-to-upper carder on any show that currently deserves to take Takers streak.

That's a great idea actually. The only thing I'd do is turn Undertaker and Kane heel rather then DX. It would work out better if DX were the face because then you get the fans rooting for DX to do the impossible, end Undertaker's streak, would make for a better build. That and it'd be cool for DX to kid around and do childish pranks while the Brothers of Destruction try to teach them a lesson.
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I don't know why they don't do a DX - Brothers Of Destruction feud heading into Mania. Something that hasn't been done before.

After DX defeat Orton & Edge eventually, DX come out after on Raw and announce that they are the most dominant team in the WWE, ever. So many teams (Trips could list them) have tried to keep them down, but no-one could ever end DX.

The lights go out, the fire pyro goes and out come the Brothers. Taker gets on the mic and says that there is one team they have never faced. One team that has been through life & death together. Triple H is one of the many members of the streak, and it's time to add Michaels to it.

Michaels and Trips could do their funny faces, run away when they come to the ring. They could run off saying they aren't facing them, 'we aren't crazy'. They could then show up on SD to cost them a match or something. Build up the cowardly nature of them. Have them feud across the Royal Rumble, where Triple H is dominating, and Kane followed by Taker come out. Keep the Brothers chasing DX and never really catching them, while DX don't do anything particularly BAD to them, until say, a month before Mania.

Have a contract signing on Raw, have DX, still playing up the scared act, and during the signing they jump the brothers, busting them both open with sledgehammers and baseball bats. Have DX turn nasty at that single point, the crowd would be all over them. Have them say that Takers 'legacy' will dengerate in front of everyones eyes, as people have forgotten who they are.

Have them mock the Brothers for the weeks running up to Mania, with Taker doing his normal 'smoke around the ring/video package thing' that they always do.

Then have the match at Mania, have Taker pin Michaels.

This gives Kane a main event match at Mania, the match will sell on its own, gives DX something fresh and an ACTUAL team to go up against and eliminates the huge problem that there just isn't any mid-to-upper carder on any show that currently deserves to take Takers streak.



You just made up the best possible thing tp happen at wrestlemania, unlikely to happen but you gave me something to hope to happen. Thanks.
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Actually I have always believed that if the streak should ever be broken it should be Kane, and it makes sense, and the little "brother" gets elevated to new heights, hell maybe a world title shot, but don't get too hopefu, and the legacy ending would make sense, and I agree with Skippord.


I heard that the Undertaker wanted to have Glen "Kane" Jacobs to break his streak but Glen didnt want it. Jacobs said he would rather Mark keep it or havea younger guy break it
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If that is true, I have more respect for Kane then I ever had before, for not taking one of the biggest legacies in sports entertainment.
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I never thought of Kane/Undertaker vs DX.
It could be a good idea, simply because it puts the 4 of those superstars in a high profile match. This simplifies booking the title matches.
You could pit Benoit against Batista, making one of them a heel of course.
And on the Raw side of things you could focus on the younger main eventers, pitting Orton Edge and Cena against eachother in a triple threat.
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