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#82 |
One Of A Kind
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^ Um no, stop sucking upto KK please. Test is far better/ more credible than Holly. But don't let the truth step in the way of you thinking that way.
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#83 |
the heartbreak king
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Saying that Test is more credible than Holly is like saying that Britney Spears is more credible than Jessica Simpson.
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#84 | |
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Test is no more and no less credible than Holly. |
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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#86 | |
Ron Paul 4 EVA
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#88 |
He's Here
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Probably been said, but since when is one loss to ANYBODY considered a de-push?
If he's continued to be jobbed out then there's reason for concern, but people, it's one loss in a feud. Will it destroy Punk if he goes on and wins the feud? No, it'll push him up a level, no matter who he beats. If he loses the feud? Again, then there's reason for concern. But one loss is nothing. Are you all expecting him to be an unstoppable force? There's more than one way to push someone. (Didn't read the whole thread so I'm guessing I missed something...) |
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#89 |
Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Actually, I takle it back. You're all right. CM Punk is such a loser that a single loss will kill off all his support and end his miserable career. I mean, it's not like he's got talent, momentum, or a following.
So let's just start asking now: Whatever happened to "Carry Me" Punk? I mean, honestly..How shitty must the guy be to have his heat killed off by a single loss? ![]() |
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#90 | |
Ron Paul 4 EVA
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#91 |
He's Here
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I didn't even read his posts.
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#92 |
Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Lies. The only way you could possibly disagree with TL is if you're kissing Kane Knight's Ass. I mean, what you're saying is that you're right and everyone else is wrong, right? Thought so. You're the one overreacting.
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#93 |
I am the cheese
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For the first time ever, I copletely agree with Kane Knight. You all are over-reacting, calm down, it was one match.
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#94 |
I'm Mr. White Christmas
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NoDQ.com > WWE > CM Punk currently in the WWE dog house
Posted by Aaron Rift on 01/13/2007 at 05:13 PM CM Punk is currently in the dog house for openly disagreeing with the layout of the Elimination Chamber match at December to Dismember. This is the main reason why his winning streak was ended on ECW TV this past week. Punk was personally told by Arn Anderson that "after 14 years on being on WWE televison, Holly is the bigger star" as an explanation as to why the heel should pin the babyface clean. Also Vince McMahon has suggested that CM Punk turn heel. |
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#95 |
the heartbreak king
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Fuck yeah, CM Punk heel turn.
Not that it would really make a whole lot of sense right now, but oh well. |
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#96 | |
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#97 |
the heartbreak king
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Not to sound like your stereotypical Punk mark here, but how do you know that he was being a prick? Just because you voice a disagreement doesn't mean that you were a bitch about it.
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#98 | |
That's Not My Name
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I'm not a big C.M. Punk mark... I don't honestly see what all the fuss is about... but I do realise that he seems to have more of a cult fanbase now than anyone who has come through the pike in recent times. Rather than capitalise on this, they seem intent of making him "pay his dues". Fuck "dues". You're supposed to be running a business here. It is history repeating itself. You can say that WWE does occasionally try to appease their fans by giving them what they want. More often than not, however, it is either so long since the moment passed that nobody really cares anymore (RVD's title win) or atrocious booking kills any momentum dead almost immediately (InVasion, Matt Hardy 2005). C.M. Punk will probably be embroiled in the mid card for the next year, losing nearly as often as he is winning; the crowd chants getting quieter and quieter with each passing month. Then, he will eventually become a champion in ECW (or whichever brand he is on) but, bar a big pop for the novelty of his victory, his heat will have evaporated. Hey, I don't care either way. I think the guy has potential to be the next huge guy, based on the character he is playing. It could connect with the whole emo/straight-edge rock movement and make WWE cool again. That would be a good thing for me, as a fan. It pains me to see WWE steer in the wrong direction once again, focusing more of their energies on celebrity endorsements and comedy spoofs than the direction the company should take to remain relevant in today's entertainment market. C.M. Punk could well be the key to their future success, if anybody in that company has any balls left. |
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#99 |
That's Not My Name
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I mean, I could really see the next generation of WWE led by C.M. Punk and Ken Kennedy as the modern day equivelants to Savage/Hogan and Austin/Rock, with one being an edgy character with great ring skills, the other being more of an entertainer, a speaker, the antithesis of his opposite.
I sound like I'm jumping on the internet bandwagon of loving Punk and Kennedy. I don't. I'm not a huge fan of either (yet, anyway). But I can still see the potential, and if WWE played their cards right, I could easily see a WrestleMania one day headlined by C.M. Punk vs Ken Kennedy in a "Super Match", much like Hogan vs Savage, Hogan vs Warrior and Rock vs Austin; the two undisputed stars of the company go one-on-one at the biggest show of the year. And I'm saying this as a guy who has never seen either guy have a match that I would personally class as above average. (But then I haven't seen much of Punk in ROH) |
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#100 | |
yes. yes. yes.
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Just because he has a internet fan base and one big pop event at Survivor Series, doesn't mean you wander around thinking you are the big cheese/the head honcho/the main man. As Kevin Nash once said - 'Come back to me when you've main-evented a couple of Wrestlemania's'. |
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#101 | |
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#102 | |
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#103 |
Inno Knows.
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Me too
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#104 | |
the heartbreak king
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#105 |
Inno Knows.
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Heyman wanted Punk to choke Show out during the Elimination Chamber. The two agents (producers, whatever the fuck they call themselves) who were in charge of the match said Punk isn't over and the Vice isn't over. These two guys are Arn Anderson and Finlay. They go to Vince and tell him to put Lashley over in the Chamber. The rest is WrestleCrap history.
This week Holly was supposed to win, with either cheating or a weapon shot. Then again the agents changed the finish to Punk losing clean. |
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#106 |
I'm Mr. White Christmas
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Foolish NODQ
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#107 |
I'm Mr. White Christmas
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BTW I'm gonna believe the one Innovator said
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Yea, Skippord, if you go far enough back on NoDq, they had the exact same thing Inno posted up. Take NoDq(and all sites like that) with a grain of salt.
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#109 |
YesYesYes!
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I may not be the biggest Punk fan, but some of the reasoning I heard is kinda crap. Unless some people are just starting out in wrestling, I don't get this whole "paying their dues". And there seems to be a double standard when it comes to big guys and little guys. They sign a freak out of a movie who can't even wrestle, and put him in the main events. But yet someone the size of Punk has to "pay dues" even though he has wrestled for years, albeit other companies.
It just seems now that Punk has the RVD path going for him. Since he has gotten over on his own pisses off all the big honchos, and therefore will do anything to kill his push. And as far as Holly being there for 14 years, therefore he should get the win is BS. If he has been there that long, then he should be putting over the younger talent, not destroying them. |
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#112 |
Inno Knows.
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Finkel for WWE Champion
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#113 |
Ron Paul 4 EVA
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#114 | |
Inno Knows.
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#115 |
Get a poke on
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"Also, some of the agents believe that he's "Heyman's guy", and that's he's not really very good and his being over is a fluke that was created by Heyman"
Heyman's guy? What like Foley, Benoit, Jericho, Eddie, Rey, RVD and others? |
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#117 | |
As over as Crystal Pepsi
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#118 |
I'm Mr. White Christmas
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Kinda want to punch Arn in the face rn
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#119 |
Rated H for Hated
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I predict that CM Punk will lose more than 50% of his matches over the next 12 months and that he will last about 30 seconds in the Rumble.
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#120 | |
Ron Paul 4 EVA
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