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Old 01-12-2007, 09:36 AM   #81
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Did you watch Survivor Series? If anyone has a video of the beginning of that match please post. Anyway, here is the scene; Hardy Boys, DX, and CM Punk are in the ring. Triple H has the mic and is getting ready to do his usual thing but the crowd wont shut up with a "CM Punk" chant. Trips then uses it to spin Punk into his thing by having Punk ask "Are you ready?" The crowd chanted for him off and on through the match. Anyway, point being, he is in the ring with a freshly united Hardy Boyz and arguably the two biggest stars in the company and the crowd was chanting for him, not anyone else.
Read my post again dickweed. Where was Survivor Series held again?
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Old 01-12-2007, 01:34 PM   #82
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Read my post again dickweed. Where was Survivor Series held again?
Regardless you can't write it off like it didn't happen. Your argument is he's gotten pops in ECW and Philly...well, isn't that pretty much everywhere he has been thus far while in the WWE? Thanks for proving my point. Dickweed.
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Old 01-12-2007, 01:40 PM   #83
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As a matter of fact I think his only other appearance on TV was the Raw from Iraq and he got a pretty big pop from there too...
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Old 01-12-2007, 01:41 PM   #84
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Punk has an RVD2001-esque OVER feeling with the crowd. But if Vince didn't push RVD then, he's not gonna push Punk now.
And that appears oh so true after his clean loss to Hardcore Holly.
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Old 01-12-2007, 01:44 PM   #85
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Regardless you can't write it off like it didn't happen. Your argument is he's gotten pops in ECW and Philly...well, isn't that pretty much everywhere he has been thus far while in the WWE? Thanks for proving my point. Dickweed.
I actually said 'moderate' pops in ECW. People were saying that he has been getting huge pops, and I said I hadn't seen it when I've seen him with the EXCEPTION of Survivor Series. He didn't get huge pops at D2D.

I also asked to be proved wrong, which you haven't done. You have managed to make yourself look an idiot though. No attempt to use my point that you actually ARGUED WITH as evidence to back up your own unsubstantiated point is going to change that.
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Old 01-12-2007, 01:55 PM   #86
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I actually said 'moderate' pops in ECW. People were saying that he has been getting huge pops, and I said I hadn't seen it when I've seen him with the EXCEPTION of Survivor Series. He didn't get huge pops at D2D.

I also asked to be proved wrong, which you haven't done. You have managed to make yourself look an idiot though. No attempt to use my point that you actually ARGUED WITH as evidence to back up your own unsubstantiated point is going to change that.
A "moderate" pop is about as good as it gets at an ECW show. 1) The crowd is usually dead. 2) The ECW shows have much smaller crowds so its physically impossible for them to be louder than the crowd at say, a Raw PPV. He gets about as big of a pop as you can get at an ECW show. 3) This ties into #1, the D2D PPV was so awful by the time the main event rolled around nothing could have got that crowd into a match or promo or anything.

And I dont see how I look like an idiot by stating these points and also using your own statement, that statement being along the lines of "Moderate pops at ECW shows and big pop at SS"...ECW shows and the SS PPV is about all he's done. Do you expect the crowd at Raw to just start chanting "CM Punk" in the middle of a Rated RKO promo? Logically he can only be popped for in something he is involved in. (Only exception to that being TNA and VKM chants on WWE programming)
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Old 01-12-2007, 01:56 PM   #87
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And if you really care to get video proof go look it up. I think that anyone who has watched these shows can agree to my statements about them and back it up.
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Old 01-12-2007, 06:26 PM   #88
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A "moderate" pop is about as good as it gets at an ECW show. 1) The crowd is usually dead. 2) The ECW shows have much smaller crowds so its physically impossible for them to be louder than the crowd at say, a Raw PPV. He gets about as big of a pop as you can get at an ECW show. 3) This ties into #1, the D2D PPV was so awful by the time the main event rolled around nothing could have got that crowd into a match or promo or anything.

And I dont see how I look like an idiot by stating these points and also using your own statement, that statement being along the lines of "Moderate pops at ECW shows and big pop at SS"...ECW shows and the SS PPV is about all he's done. Do you expect the crowd at Raw to just start chanting "CM Punk" in the middle of a Rated RKO promo? Logically he can only be popped for in something he is involved in. (Only exception to that being TNA and VKM chants on WWE programming)
I thought ECW was mainly done before SD? In the same arena? Correct me if I'm wrong but that would give an oppotunity for some big poppage.

The state of the D2D PPV is irrelevant, if he's as over as you are seemingly saying, then surely it would have picked the crowd up?

No, I don't expect random CM Punk chants tbh, first of all he'd need to be over.
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Old 01-12-2007, 06:27 PM   #89
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And if you really care to get video proof go look it up. I think that anyone who has watched these shows can agree to my statements about them and back it up.
Back it up then. I'm not on the defensive. You are. Find me the videos and I'll agree with you.
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Wasn't Survivor Series in Philadelphia? Philly is not all that close to Chicago for one...but Philly is a "smark" crowd so I'll give you the point for the argument that OF COURSE he's going to get popped big in the environment.

As for him being over with the same people as he was already...listen to his reactions because thats ALOT of people. If alot of people liked him in the first place, how is it diminishing that he is still over with all the same people? Does that mean that even though The Great Khali gets little to no reaction he's actually more over than Punk because Punk has only kept the same fan base?
They could use that big Russian MMA dude against Khali. Two huge guys who give awful promo's squaring off at WM. Think of the buyrates.
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Old 01-16-2007, 03:56 PM   #91
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Find me the videos and I'll agree with you.
I have the feeling even with a video of a pop for CM Punk you will acknowledge it only as "Moderate" so I'm not going to waste my time. I will concede that the level of the pop is subjective to personal belief as to what is "big" or "moderate" or "weak", etc. There is too much gray area to definitively prove a point.
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