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Old 07-01-2007, 10:51 PM   #81
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Last I checked, I've been talking about Brock Lesnar in general. I've brought up the NFL afterall.
Which is true. You also said that he's passed tests everywhere. Please, back that up with real evidence. One link of one instance is not everywhere.

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Only thing I heard about is that she wanted to get a protective order against Chris and then dropped it.
And I haven't heard fuck all about Brock passing steroid tests in WWE.

On the other hand, my assertion's back up on the newsboard here and by the AP. There are reports of abuse by Benoit going back to like, 2002. Some of us already knew he was abusing his wife before this murder/suicide deal took place.

You can't say "his friends knew him better." All we need to know is that he was abusive.

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I never said he was a saint.
Another weak argument.
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And I've encouraged nothing but since the topic began.
Except, of course, dismissing anything that has to do with him politicking, along with anything inconvenient. Didn't touch the ratings, or the power vaccuum, or people constantly putting him over.
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Old 07-01-2007, 11:08 PM   #82
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Except, of course, dismissing anything that has to do with him politicking, along with anything inconvenient. Didn't touch the ratings, or the power vaccuum, or people constantly putting him over.
Bringing up Triple H politicking is baseless rumors.

I dismiss anything unproven. Like everything you say.

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Which is true. You also said that he's passed tests everywhere. Please, back that up with real evidence. One link of one instance is not everywhere.
One link and proof is better than none. I'm still waiting on you as you were the first person to beg for proof while providing none yourself.

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You can't say "his friends knew him better." All we need to know is that he was abusive.
I can say his friends know him better. That's the truth.
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Old 07-01-2007, 11:10 PM   #83
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I don't believe it because there's zero evidence of it. He didn't look liek Scott Steiner and he's passed tests everywhere.
lesnar won the njcaa national championship at 197 in junior college and the next year at minnesota he was wrestling 285 and he just happened to be at that weight limit and was even cutting to make 285 his senior year. Oh and he had almost no body fat on him. Now you can believe all you want that he didnt do anything but I can tell you as a college wrestler now, that someone who is as talented as Lesnar will not be tested by their own school, and if the NCAA tests them the school will make sure he doesnt fail it. Not to mention the testing then was not anywhere near to where it is now. Now I dont think he was on anything while in WWE because he started to put a little fat on and was not nearly as ripped as he was in college. But to say that he didnt is just stupid.
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Old 07-01-2007, 11:17 PM   #84
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theres no one in the wrestling community (ncaa not wwe) that thinks hes clean. Except minnesota lol
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Old 07-01-2007, 11:22 PM   #85
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:05 AM   #86
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But to say that he didnt is just stupid.
And to say that he did with zero concrete evidence is just stupid.

I dunno where you live but here in America, we have a thing called innocent until proven guilty.

If you walked into a court with that comment you just made, you think you'd have a prayer of proving Brock Lesnar used steroids?
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:12 AM   #87
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With just that one line from my post? No. But good job at ignorring the whole rest of my post. See here in the states (2007 not 1998 which is when he wrestled) if something went on like him putting on about 80 lbs in muscle in one year, that would be seen as quite strange and it would be looked into heavily. Probably to the point in which there would be a lot of evidence.

If you dont mind me asking, do you think Barry Bonds is on the juice ?
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:30 AM   #88
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Bringing up Triple H politicking is baseless rumors.

I dismiss anything unproven. Like everything you say.
And yet, it's not proven he wasn't on steroids. Not only don't you prove it, you assert it.

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One link and proof is better than none.
Not when it fails to establish your claims as truth. Sorry.

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I can say his friends know him better. That's the truth.
It's a half truth and a poor argument. Fact is, the guy abused his wife. You cannot call him sweet. Sorry. Your argument fails again.

But then, this from the guy who thinks "If he wasn't fired, he couldn't be on steroids!"

Because there ar eno pro sports scandals about that right now. Nothing at all.
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Old 07-02-2007, 01:06 AM   #89
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Old 07-02-2007, 01:21 AM   #90
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With just that one line from my post? No. But good job at ignorring the whole rest of my post. See here in the states (2007 not 1998 which is when he wrestled) if something went on like him putting on about 80 lbs in muscle in one year, that would be seen as quite strange and it would be looked into heavily. Probably to the point in which there would be a lot of evidence.
Well, can you provide a source that says his weight during Junior College? I just read an article and a bio of him and both say he was 285 when he wrestled.

Never heard the 197 pound ranking.

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If you dont mind me asking, do you think Barry Bonds is on the juice ?
I don't pay attention to baseball so I a) don't know and b) don't care.

At KK: If you ever are kind enough to prove Lesnar used HGH, as you said flatly, I'll be happy to concede. But we've been going in circles for the last page and you haven't yet and I quite frankly don't expect you to.
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Old 07-02-2007, 01:28 AM   #91
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So Nikkolas, you seem to refuse that it's a possibility, so I have to ask, are you really Brock Lesnar?


Anyway, to see a guy who is 6'3" weigh nearly 300 lbs with 0% body fat, is extremely suspicious, to me at least.
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Old 07-02-2007, 01:41 AM   #92
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I don't deny it's possible.

Anything is possible in this world and the only person who can truly say if Brock Lesnar used steroids is Brock himself.

But I won't say he used them when there's no concrete proof to it.
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Old 07-02-2007, 01:48 AM   #93
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If he didn't do 'roids, why didn't he compete in the Olympics?
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Old 07-02-2007, 02:20 AM   #94
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I have no idea.
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Old 07-02-2007, 11:42 AM   #95
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Well, can you provide a source that says his weight during Junior College? I just read an article and a bio of him and both say he was 285 when he wrestled.

Never heard the 197 pound ranking.

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I dont need to give you a source look up the history for the Njcaa tornament genius
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Old 07-02-2007, 11:46 AM   #96
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Anything is possible in this world and the only person who can truly say if Brock Lesnar used steroids is Brock himself.
Then the point of offering "proof" that he's passed steroids tests is?

God, could you be any more predictable?
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Old 07-02-2007, 11:47 AM   #97
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Yeah yeah. I know. You'll ignore me because you're condoning a guy who beat his wife, and because your shitty hypotheticals don't work out. But still, it had to be said. You can go back to tucking tail now.
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Old 07-02-2007, 11:50 AM   #98
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I dont need to give you a source look up the history for the Njcaa tornament genius
All I found were listings of him as a "heavyweight" competitor. Nothing specific about his weight.
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:34 PM   #99
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Then the point of offering "proof" that he's passed steroids tests is?
Because it's evidence that he didn't do steroids.

Is it 100% accurate and can it be used to say "no. He absolutely positively never used roids. End of story"? No. But it's evidence enough.

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God, could you be any more predictable?
Look who's talking.

Found that link to him using HGH yet?

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You'll ignore me because you're condoning a guy who beat his wife
Perhaps you failed flunked first grade.

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Are you supporting domestic abuse?
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and because your shitty hypotheticals don't work out
They don't work out? So the NFL and NCAA don't test for steroids? There's nothing hypothetical there. It's just obvious.

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You can go back to tucking tail now.
You've lied a few times now. You lied about Lesnar using HGH and you lied about me condoning abuse.
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Old 07-02-2007, 02:46 PM   #100
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Because it's evidence that he didn't do steroids.
Buzz Sorry, player, that's incorrect.
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Is it 100% accurate and can it be used to say "no. He absolutely positively never used roids. End of story"? No. But it's evidence enough.
Sorry, it really isn't. You've failed to back up your claims.

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Look who's talking.

Found that link to him using HGH yet?
Successfully backed up your claims yet? Sorry mate, the burden's on you for making the assertion. But nice try. Maybe if you deflect long enough, I'll get bored and move on. Prove it.

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Perhaps you failed flunked first grade.
Wow. You're getting desperate. Are you that hard up for a justification?

You then went on to back up that he was a sweet guy. Perhaps you "failed flunked" the first grade.

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They don't work out? So the NFL and NCAA don't test for steroids? There's nothing hypothetical there. It's just obvious.
Well, among other things for you to chew over:
  1. Steroid tests don't read as positive if you have a prescription.
  2. If everyone on steroids in sports were fired or released, we wouldn't be having the current scandal going on right now.
  3. Prove to me that the NCAA and NFL tested him. I mean, especially with the NFL, they had very little reason to test him. He never made the cut. I mean, that's just "simple logic."
Mostly 1 and 2. 3 is just a minor amusement. You're asking me to take on faith that sports programs will be vigilant against their best interests, and ignoring that they might not even know he was on seroids if he had a scrip.

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You've lied a few times now. You lied about Lesnar using HGH and you lied about me condoning abuse.
You've lied a few times. You've claimed he passed every test. And if my HGH claim is a lie because it's not backed up yet, your claims are also lies. You are condoning domestic abuse my defending the notion that someone who hit and later murdered his wife was sweet. Benoit was a fucking monster, and defending him as otherwise is condoning domestic abuse. Further, you fail to take into account that his loved ones are all speaking about a dead guy when you bring up the "well they know him better, and even though his actions are public record, surely that can't mean anything" bullshit.

Domestic violence is all we need to know to know he's not sweet. The fact that he killed his wife and son are gravy for that argument. You continued that assertion, you are silently condoning his actions as such.

So continue lying. Continue dodging the issues. Continue to dismiss that which is inconvenient. Whatever.
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Old 07-02-2007, 02:52 PM   #101
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Old 07-02-2007, 03:06 PM   #102
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Still waiting on the HGH evidence. I provided a link saying he passed a drug test. You provided jack. I refuse to continue this until you bring more to the table than your biased and unfounded bull.
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Old 07-02-2007, 04:01 PM   #103
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Lesnar obviously took steroids. I have some proof.



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