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Old 02-03-2008, 07:10 PM   #81
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I'm not talking to you about this any more. Lesnar is still a beast.

I havent seen the fight yet,tho theyre showing the ppv itsself on bravo atm, but i dont doubt brock was a tough opponent in that match, i bet he even says the other guy got 'lucky'. ill be anxiously flicking between that and the superbowl.
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Old 02-03-2008, 08:27 PM   #82
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I havent seen the fight yet,tho theyre showing the ppv itsself on bravo atm, but i dont doubt brock was a tough opponent in that match, i bet he even says the other guy got 'lucky'. ill be anxiously flicking between that and the superbowl.
Nah, he outright said it is what it is and Mir was the better fighter.
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:53 PM   #83
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Old 02-04-2008, 01:37 AM   #84
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Old 02-04-2008, 01:51 AM   #85
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Old 02-04-2008, 03:40 AM   #86
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People weren't saying he was going to win. I recall when the match was announced, everyone started talking about Mir beating his ass. Then a few people on here like Kane Knight and WWKD (I think Kevin said it at least) started saying that Lesnar had a better shot than people thought...and he did.

People thought that Mir was out of it, but Mir trained hard and studied Lesnar. Lesner also trained hard, but you could tell from the interviews he did that he didn't mentally prepare for this passed "I'm beating Mir up". But one thing I did respect was when asked about winning, he said "I want to win, but if I lose I lose. Just means I have to get better". He said this after the match as well, meaning even in defeat he's excited for more (though I hope he realizes his paychecks won't be as big).

PS: Brock was bigget, but didn't appear so by much. They seem to have the same size muscle, and Brock only seemed a few inches bigger.
I don't recall saying that. I remember when it was first announced he was going to MMA, and was being trained by Gracie, a lot of people were going on about how great he would do, and how amazing he'd be, and some others were saying he'd absolutely bomb, and I took the middle ground. If I recall correctly, I pretty much said he'd be good, but he wasn't going to come in and simply destroy everyone in his path.

As far as the Mir fight, exactly what I thought happened, happened. Brock went in like a beast, but he was too over-zealous and it cost him. He was too confident and went to the ground to fast with Mir. Mir has far more experience on the ground. When Mir went down the second time, Brock really should have let him get back up. Brock should have nailed a few more solid blows before following Mir down to the ground. Brock wasn't horrible on the ground either, but the hesitation cst him, because despite the beating, Mir was still on his game enough to lock the leg.
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Old 02-04-2008, 03:56 AM   #87
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Brock was all over him then wham, leg lock...
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LOL, why the fuck is anyone thinking Lesnar would quite, he made $250,000 just for showing up on Saturday night, he would of doubled it if he won, why would he walk away from that?

I agree with what more people are saying, looked better than expected, got caught, game over.

Based on the limited 2 fights I've seen, he seems to have no submission work in him, but I love ground and pounders, so that's fine by me
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Old 02-04-2008, 04:07 AM   #89
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http://tpww.net/forums/showthread.ph...ighlight=Brock

That's the original "How will Brock do?" thread.

Pretty much exactly what I thought would happen, minus the fact that I honestly thought they'd give him a feeder guy or two first. But like I said near the end of the thread, he'd get in over his head in a match with someone better with him, and the inexperience would show through.

With that said though, his showing was A LOT better than I thought it would be when he got into that situation. I also find it ironic that in the thread above I was questioning his striking ability, and in this one I'm saying "he should have stuck to his striking game a little longer."
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:19 AM   #90
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Referee Steve Mazagatti, **IMO** is one of the worst refs that UFC has. I've never seen a ref stop a fight to deduct points with no shown warnings, and on top of that stands both fighters up...from what i've seen in stoped fights they restart at the last position they were in I.E. Brock on top of Mir in a seated position.
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:36 PM   #91
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The guy also got into MMA because of his WWE career.

NO, he got into MMA because of his college wrestling career.. He said in an interview that he wanted to go into MMA right out of college, but it wasn't near as popular then as it is now, so he went to WWF for the money..
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People can bitch about the referee all they want; the finish was still clean. Yeah, the douche bag made a questionable call and stood both men back up AND removed a point, but what happened next? Brock knocked Frank on his ass with another punch and then jumped on him again, he had him back down.

Brock was way over confident and green, and a combination of those two things can be really harmful, which is exactly what happened with that knee lock. Brock needed to pace himself more and keep things standing as much as possible. As a wrestler, his instinct is to go for the take down, but the problem is that it takes a lot of hits to get the decision win off a guy like Frank Mir. You can't bully that shit out of Frank Mir; at least not in the first minute of the first round.

Lesnar was absolutely dominant for the first 30 seconds, just killing on Mir. But he got overconfident, he wasn't paying close enough attention to the leg positioning of Mir, who he should have known is a master of jiujitsu and could take him down with a submission in a very wide variety of ways, and he got caught.

Still, that was just fight #2. If Brock can stick it out and keep progressing and fighting more and more guys, in the next year he's going to be a real force to be reckoned with.
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The fight could've have ended if the ref didn't stand them up. Maybe, probably not. But it's worth bitching about.
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I can't believe he tapped to a knee lock. He NEVER tapped out to Kurt's ankle lock when he was in it far longer.
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I can't believe he tapped to a knee lock. He NEVER tapped out to Kurt's ankle lock when he was in it far longer.
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