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Old 12-14-2003, 11:44 PM   #81
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Old 12-14-2003, 11:44 PM   #82
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Well that's just bollocks
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Old 12-14-2003, 11:45 PM   #83
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Did I read the results right....

Triple H won?
Im guessing he pinned Kane. I had a feeling HHH would win but I said "No, no way... they wouldn't do that to us AGAIN". They would.
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Old 12-14-2003, 11:46 PM   #84
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HHH pinned Goldberg after Kane chokeslammed him but was pulled out of the ring by Batista.

What does anyone think of this: Kane and Old School Undertaker vs Evolution?
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Old 12-14-2003, 11:47 PM   #85
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no... i like the 4 vs 4 idea on page 2.
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WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP - TRIPLE THREAT MATCH


Bill Goldberg (c) vs. Kane vs. Triple H
Winner & NEW World Heavyweight Champion: Triple H

- The match ended when Goldberg hit both Kane and Triple H with spears. Ric Flair and Randy Orton ran out, but Goldberg knocked them both out. Goldberg speared Triple H again and went for the cover, but Kane broke it up. Both Goldberg and Kane started to choke each other standing up. Triple H gave Goldberg a low blow from behind and Kane gave Goldberg a big chokeslam. Batista ran out and pulled Kane from the ring, allowing Triple H to cover Goldberg for the 1, 2, 3 to become the NEW World Heavyweight Champion.

The show ended with all of Evolution celebrating in the ring with Randy Orton having the Intercontinental Title, Ric Flair & Batista having the World Tag Team Titles and Triple H with the World Heavyweight Title.
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Old 12-14-2003, 11:51 PM   #87
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I'm don't mind HHH at all right now and as long as he's with Evolution I'm all for him being champ.
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Old 12-14-2003, 11:52 PM   #88
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I think Taker and HBK have put plenty over. Specially Taker... Taker beat Cena, but Cena had Taker busted open pretty bad.

Plus to people like us who look at the WWE from a backstage POV... there are a lot of people out there who don't. And to them a guy like HBK or The Undertaker isn't just another wrestler. They are legends, top notch guys.

So yeah... Batista lost to HBK. Batista lost to the first ever grand slam winner, the 4 time WWF Champion, a guy who's headlined Wrestlemania's... a guy who's been around for over a decade.... that doesn't sound too bad in my book.

Batista pounding the shit out of this guy in a match... that makes Batista look pretty good. From what I read HBK pulled that win out of his ass.
If this was MMA, I'd say Batista got over, and was just unlucky to lose.

But, this is not MMA, its all a work, and I think even the most casual fan knows that. Anyone who has watched more than 3 wrestling matches knows that a lot of times the face plays like he's in peril, but fights the odds and wins. Thats what happened here, the fans recognize it was just a storyline in a match, but at the end the 'better' guy won.

At the end of the day when guys lose on any kind of regular basis, the casual fan will just look at it and go 'that guy sucks'. Guys like Taker and HBK in order to serve their purpose on the roster should not only sell throughout an entire match in order to put someone over, but they should also lay down at the end to establish them as the dominant player. Fans like Taker and HBK, but if they get beat by up and coming guys, there is a better chance that fans will gravitate to the new guys and say 'those old guys suck'. That creates new stars, who can have fresh main event matches, and lead their company into the future. Unfortunately the WWE hasn't done that in years (except with Rock-Brock which is the perfect example of how to get a new guy over), and as a result they can create new stars who draw money, and they have the same guys on top who are not drawing very well.
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Old 12-15-2003, 12:11 AM   #89
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the only Evolution guy I can stand to see with a belt around his waist is Orton... (Flair is above the tag belts..)
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Old 12-15-2003, 12:14 AM   #90
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I cant believe that every champion in the WWE is a heel
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Old 12-15-2003, 12:20 AM   #91
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Triple H.. Not again!!!!
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Old 12-15-2003, 12:25 AM   #92
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Old 12-15-2003, 12:28 AM   #93
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Shutup dorks, HHH deserves this.
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Old 12-15-2003, 12:33 AM   #94
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I know, really. Out of 8 champs, all 8 are heel. Damn, has that ever happened before?
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Old 12-15-2003, 12:34 AM   #95
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Shutup dorks, HHH deserves this.
What? He needs it in place of the Oscar he won't win for the movie he's filming?
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Old 12-15-2003, 12:35 AM   #96
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I know, really. Out of 8 champs, all 8 are heel. Damn, has that ever happened before?
Lots of times.
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Old 12-15-2003, 01:05 AM   #97
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Shutup dorks, HHH deserves this.
Yes, because God knows that sleeping with the boss's daughter, skipping shows for months on end, and preventing any progress on Raw is a much more worthy task than actually wrestling and paying your dues.
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Old 12-15-2003, 01:38 AM   #98
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oh guys please "he's ****ing vince's daughter that's why he's getting a push!"

seriously shut the **** up, look at Triple H, he looks very fit, he has a great Heel character, he's not getting the title alot cause he's married to steph, it's because the CHARACTER Triple H is a cheap guy that does anything and everything to keep the belt. ala hollywood hogan NWO
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Old 12-15-2003, 01:45 AM   #99
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I know, really. Out of 8 champs, all 8 are heel. Damn, has that ever happened before?
I think it's more than 8 champs now actually...

Triple H (World Champion)
Randy Orton (Intercontinental Champion)
Ric Flair (Co-Tag Team Champion)
Batista (Co-Tag Team Champion)
Molly Holly (Womens Champion)
Brock Lesnar (WWE Champion)
Big Show (United States Champion)
Danny Basham (Co-Tag Team Champion)
Doug Basham (Co-Tag Team Champion)
Tajiri (Cruiserweight Champion)

So actually out of 10.. all are heels.

I've sait it in another post here.. ever since Triple H won at Wrestlemania 2000 heels have dominated the majority of the shows.

As for all of the controversy over Triple H. I think the Evolution all holding gold idea is cool, and will eventually lead to the split up of the group. But... I think everyone has a right to bitch about HHH. Why? Yeah the guy is in shape. But is he in better shape than RVD? Cena? Orton? Angle? Benoit? Booker T? Hey Booker T got injured... why didn't he come right back and nab the IC title? Or atleast a Title? Booker T comes back from an injury and has to job to Mark Henry a couple of times.

Triple H comes back from an injury, AND shooting a movie and he's the world champion. It seems like other wrestlers drop titles if they're injured. Triple H gets to take a nap in the elimination chamber while Orton, Goldberg, Nash, Jericho, and HBK do all the work. Hey.. fine.. but then he wins the match?

Yup, bullshit.
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Old 12-15-2003, 01:52 AM   #100
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its a good idea, IMO, to put all the gold on Evolution...the way they gave the titles to Batista and Flair was...different...i cant complain much about the PPV...


just curious, when does Molly join Evolution so they can have ALL the gold?
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Old 12-15-2003, 01:58 AM   #101
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oh guys please "he's ****ing vince's daughter that's why he's getting a push!"

seriously shut the **** up, look at Triple H, he looks very fit, he has a great Heel character, he's not getting the title alot cause he's married to steph, it's because the CHARACTER Triple H is a cheap guy that does anything and everything to keep the belt. ala hollywood hogan NWO
Very fit? Have you looked at HHH's gut lately? As for his "great heel character," it's been done a million times before and is nowhere near as good as his character in 2000. Besides, characters aside, he doesn't draw for shit, and that's what's important. People simply don't want to see him, especially not with the belt again.

As for him getting a push for boning Vince's daughter, do you have any evidence to the contrary? No, it's not the sole cause, but he's still woven himself a pretty solid web of political bullshit to keep himself above the talent that actually deserves the damn belt.
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Old 12-15-2003, 02:08 AM   #102
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Yay Triple H won...
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Old 12-15-2003, 02:40 AM   #103
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My god, I'm glad I didn't order that PPV. HHH winning is utter shit.
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Was it just me, or did they just add two matches (women's title and Matt Hardy vs Maven) out of NOWHERE?
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Old 12-15-2003, 04:11 AM   #105
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Matt vs Maven was added because the bookers realised the 6 matches couldn't stretch 3 hrs.

Evolution winning all the titles is good IMO, because maybe they will split up because of swollen heads, being champions and everything. It'll be a hilarious angle.
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Old 12-15-2003, 05:14 AM   #106
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Pain, the pain, the pain not again... :cry: if it was not enof that goldberg was a champion now is HHH the champ again and ofcourse he is gonna claim that he is THAT DAMN GOOD :cry: ohw...i am so gonna kill myself
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Old 12-15-2003, 05:56 AM   #107
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I don't want to go into a discussion and attempt to change your mind, cause I am quite sure that you will think what you want yourself to think, but you must understand that is what i think. nice to get your opinion.
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I was coming into the show with the mindset that Triple H winning the belt would really, really suck.

However, when I read that Orton would the Intercontinental Title and Flair/Batista won the Tag Titles, I'm honestly not all that pissed that Triple H won.
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Old 12-15-2003, 09:41 AM   #109
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Evolution will NEVER be The Four Horseman, no matter how hard they try they can never duplicate the Horseman's success.
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Old 12-15-2003, 10:29 AM   #110
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Old 12-15-2003, 10:55 AM   #111
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Wouldn't this have been the perfect time to put Orton over as the new leader of Evolution?

Think about, everyone but Triple H holds the gold, Orton, Flair and Batista all do whatever they can do give Trips the belt, but he failed, so Evolution drop Triple H, he goes away to do his movies and what have ya, he comes back, gets a babyface reaction, takes out Evolution. Pretty simple booking which would establish Orton as a top-level heel, and give Triple H a much needed character tweeking.

Of course, this didn't happen.
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Old 12-15-2003, 11:53 AM   #112
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I really thought Kane would win...
But now who will triple h drop the belt to
or will he leave to do movies with the gold in his hands
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Old 12-15-2003, 12:12 PM   #113
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when will Kane get his title run?
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Old 12-15-2003, 12:26 PM   #114
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when will Kane get his title run?
I dont think he ever will.

They should have done it after he un-masked and went nuts, but they didn't.
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Old 12-15-2003, 12:45 PM   #116
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Old 12-15-2003, 02:00 PM   #117
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Great, I can't wait for RAW's obigitory 20min Triple "I regained my Title" H promo...
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Old 12-15-2003, 03:54 PM   #118
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Great, I can't wait for RAW's obigitory 20min Triple "I regained my Title" H promo...
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo :cry:


Wait a sec...I don't have cable.




Wooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Old 12-15-2003, 03:57 PM   #119
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i think hardy/maven was added so batista would have somebody to beat the shit out of...
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Old 12-15-2003, 05:00 PM   #120
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I thought it was a very solid PPV.

As far as Evolution being as successful as the Four Horsemen....hell, why not? A guy like Batista couldn't match up to a guy like Steve "Mongo" McMichael? I think Evolution is a great stable, and I also like the idea of them all holding gold.

The Battle of the Sexes surprised me as well, seeing as to how it didn't suck.
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