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Old 04-21-2008, 04:31 PM   #81
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Well there went YOUR chances of ever gaining political office.
Yeah, like I was ever going to get into political office. a half injun, openly socialist (well, de facto socialist) tranny...I don't think sex with you in a public bathroom could hurt my chances any more than that...

...So I'm not worried about associating with you dragging me down.

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This just in....


"Punk outpops Obama"

Actually, CM Punk makes me think of Ron Paul.

For a couple years, you had huge internet support for Ron Paul, and all the online polls showed Ron Paul as strong with both liberals and conservatives. Of course, the polls come out, the real primaries and the like, and Ron Paul does nowhere near as well as he was "projected." Now all the stupid motherfucking Ron Paul supporters who were screaming about how he was going to take overlike wildfire are bitching about some lame ass conspiracy.

Catch is, most of them don't vote.

No conspiracy there.

But you get the point.
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:02 PM   #82
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To add to the conversation, such as it is, I would like to say that Glen Jacobs is the most patient and uncomplaining man Vince McMahon has ever employed for a long period of time.
He's definitely one of them. I'd also like to throw Val Venis and Stevie Richards in there.
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:04 PM   #83
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Let's see Marella do his pompous mispronounciation act in a stand up club and see how much of a "comic" he is, let alone a "genius". His one joke act would go down like a lead balloon.
I've actually done stand-up comedy. If I were running a club, I would give Anthony Carelli a shot. It is not the mispronunciation of Santino's words that is funny. What he says and how he says it are deliberately thought out and timed brilliantly.

I'll grant you that calling him a comic genius is harmless hyperbole, but I truly believe that if Carelli sat-down, he could make a damn good comedian. The guy is just naturally funny.
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:07 PM   #84
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STILL on about this? He didn't "out pop" DX, he just got a nice pop and a chant.
He ended up getting his name chanted throughout DX's bit, if I recall. That is what I'd call out-popping. No one is saying that anyone else got booed. Punk had the spotlight, though. That is how many people would define "out-popping."

Also, Triple H being forced to acknowledge Punk and let him say the line (good thinking on Triple H's part), and the then undefeated Punk losing to Hardcore Holly and being the first guy eliminated from the Extreme Elimination Chamber, could be taken as evidence that some people felt that Punk had stolen an unfair amount of the spotlight on that specific night.
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:17 PM   #85
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Any, Marella doesn't strike me as even amusing. And that has less to do with Santino and his "Genius" and more to do with this shit being done to death.
So everything in comedy needs to be completely new? There is no room in comedy for simple good timing? There is no room in comedy for something so terrible being done so well? There is no room in comedy for natural talent being showcased as natural talent? Admit that Santino is not your cup of tea if you don't get him. That is fine. Stop trying to censor a genre that is much more flexible, larger and total than you are giving it credit for, though.
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Old 04-22-2008, 01:06 AM   #86
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You are wrong, MB. I can't believe anyone would ever say anything so phenomenally stupid!
What?



I didn't even do anything!
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:12 AM   #87
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:17 AM   #89
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I've actually done stand-up comedy.
Dude, booking Venis to the World Title on a wrestling fan forum does not make you a stand-up comedian. It's often funny as hell, but...
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:16 AM   #90
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He ended up getting his name chanted throughout DX's bit, if I recall.
Then you recall wrong. I've got the DVD sitting on my coffee table.

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So everything in comedy needs to be completely new?
Where, exactly, did I say that?

Noid, Noid, Noid. The world is not defined in black and white. just because i think that one guy's shtick has been done to death does not mean I think that everything must be completely new in comedy.
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:41 AM   #91
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Dude, booking Venis to the World Title on a wrestling fan forum does not make you a stand-up comedian. It's often funny as hell, but...
I'm actually trying to picture Noid doing stand-up. Given his usual grasp of nuances, I'm having trouble picturing him doing anything that's not pie takes.
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:52 AM   #92
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Then you recall wrong. I've got the DVD sitting on my coffee table.
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You have a somewhat recent WWE PPV DVD???

Color me shocked.
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:33 AM   #93
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You have a somewhat recent WWE PPV DVD???

Color me shocked.
Well CM Punk is such a draw, who could resist?
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:52 AM   #94
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Well CM Punk is such a draw, who could resist?
I can't fuckin stand Junk, and his win over jericho last night was the straw that broke the camels back.
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Old 04-22-2008, 11:22 AM   #95
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I can't fuckin stand Junk, and his win over jericho last night was the straw that broke the camels back.
Okay, you did read the thread and realise that since I've been notably against the Punktards, I was probably being facetious, right? Because bitching about Punk in response to me makes little sense. I don't hate Punk (I think he's an average wrestler who has a really rabid following) but Jesus Christ, man.
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Old 04-22-2008, 11:25 AM   #96
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Although I have to admit, Punk's "look" makes me want to riddle him with bullet holes. It's not that he's a horrible wrestler, though. It's the same sort of reaction the closet homos on here have for Morrison's abs, only in reverse.
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Old 04-22-2008, 11:46 AM   #97
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Although I have to admit, Punk's "look" makes me want to riddle him with bullet holes. It's not that he's a horrible wrestler, though. It's the same sort of reaction I have on here for Morrison's abs, only in reverse.
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Old 04-22-2008, 11:54 AM   #98
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Sascha's gay for Morrison. You heard it here first.
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Although I have to admit, Punk's "look" makes me want to riddle him with bullet holes. It's not that he's a horrible wrestler, though. It's the same sort of reaction the closet homos on here have for Morrison's abs, only in reverse.
And the sad thing is he makes you feel like you'd have done him a favor by putting him down. Kind of like Old Yeller except with less remorse.
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Old 04-22-2008, 02:10 PM   #100
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Okay, you did read the thread and realise that since I've been notably against the Punktards, I was probably being facetious, right? Because bitching about Punk in response to me makes little sense. I don't hate Punk (I think he's an average wrestler who has a really rabid following) but Jesus Christ, man.
My post asn't directed at you much, I just like you and picked your quote.
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He ended up getting his name chanted throughout DX's bit, if I recall. That is what I'd call out-popping. No one is saying that anyone else got booed. Punk had the spotlight, though. That is how many people would define "out-popping."
That is false, and your memory is failing aswell.
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Old 04-23-2008, 03:31 AM   #104
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I can't fuckin stand Junk, and his win over jericho last night was the straw that broke the camels back.
I hate CM Punk but i still hate you more you stupid son of a bitch, jesus christ shut the fuck up
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Then you recall wrong. I've got the DVD sitting on my coffee table.
I can find it on YouTube. Yep, fans are chanting "CM Punk" louder than anything else.

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Where, exactly, did I say that?

Noid, Noid, Noid. The world is not defined in black and white. just because i think that one guy's shtick has been done to death does not mean I think that everything must be completely new in comedy.
Any shtick can be funny if it has a talented performer behind it. To label something as "being done to death" is to put a limit on the comic potential of something. Unwise, at the very least.
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I can't fuckin stand Junk, and his win over jericho last night was the straw that broke the camels back.
Punk's beaten Jericho before. You've been making hate claims of Punk for ages. Surely the camel's back was broken a long time ago.
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That is false, and your memory is failing aswell.
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I can find it on YouTube. Yep, fans are chanting "CM Punk" louder than anything else.
They're not doing it all throughout DX's bit, which is what you said. You can change the argument to "They're changing CM Punk's name louder than anything else," but it doesn't change the fact that what you previously said was, well...Wrong.

Now, you can say they chanted Punk's name, but of course, that was after DX got practically every body on their feet and cheering simply by pointing. DX had the crowd in the palm of their hands, and that was incredibly epic. Now, I've already explained this to you, so you have no reason to continue making the claim to the contrary, beyond the need to lie.

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Which is not what you said, so now you're changing the story again. I'm loooooving your honesty here, Noid.
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They're not doing it all throughout DX's bit, which is what you said. You can change the argument to "They're changing CM Punk's name louder than anything else," but it doesn't change the fact that what you previously said was, well...Wrong.
I didn't say "all throughout" DX's bit. I said "throughout" DX's bit. Which they did. DX had come out to a great entrance pop, and then they instigated the pointing at the crowds, and getting each section to cheer (DX were leading this, so this is still their shtick featuring Matt Hardy, Jeff Hardy and CM Punk). Then Triple H got everyone to cheer at once, and he held the mic and the fans chanted for CM Punk. I still don't know what you're trying to argue.

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Now, you can say they chanted Punk's name, but of course, that was after DX got practically every body on their feet and cheering simply by pointing. DX had the crowd in the palm of their hands, and that was incredibly epic. Now, I've already explained this to you, so you have no reason to continue making the claim to the contrary, beyond the need to lie.
Whoa! You mean KK has spoken?!?!

1) I don't usually read your explanations, so please don't act like you've been talking to me directly. You haven't been.

2) That is exactly my fucking point! DX were doing their face shtick (which I never said bombed), and the fans still chose to chant "CM Punk" over "DX," "Triple H" or "HBK." DX instigated it (it was "their" thing, but Matt, Jeff and Punk were also getting the exact same reaction from the fans), and then the fans chose to chant for Punk over them. You can argue that DX got the bigger entrance pop (which they did), but after everything built, the fans seemed more interested in CM Punk.

The chant is there and audible. Because you choose not to count it does not make me a liar. Sorry I am not going to bow to the world according to fat shit.

At the time, I found it mildly humourous that the new guy from ECW was getting his name chanted louder than anyone else's in the match. Now I just find it fucking annoying that dickheads like you can't drop it. And yes, it is your side that won't drop it. No one comes up with a post in every Punk thread saying "PUNK OUT-POPPED DX" in legitimate support of him. We have all accepted that it did happen, and that it was one night only in a town that was familiar with Punk. Now shut the fuck up and stop twisting things to fit your scenario. "THEY WERE PIPED IN!!!!"

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Which is not what you said, so now you're changing the story again. I'm loooooving your honesty here, Noid.
"So everything in comedy needs to be completely new?"

This was a question. You could have taken it literally, or you could look at the subtext. Your point was that Santino's comedy is old. My question was asking whether it needed to be new.

"There is no room in comedy for simple good timing? There is no room in comedy for something so terrible being done so well? There is no room in comedy for natural talent being showcased as natural talent?"

I asked if timing can make a bad joke good. It can. I asked if there is such a thing as natural comedic talent. There is. I asked if it is occasionally appropriate to exploit this talent in a way that doesn't necessarily go through the most original of filters, so the cream can rise to the top. It sometimes is. The part about showcasing talent is reintroduced as part of my second post.

"Admit that Santino is not your cup of tea if you don't get him. That is fine. Stop trying to censor a genre that is much more flexible, larger and total than you are giving it credit for, though."

That completes what I reiterated in my second post. You don't get Santino. You think he is meant to be funny because he mispronounces words, and that is your uneducated matter to deal with. I don't give a shit enough about you to teach you. Santino's act has not been "done to death," however. Nothing in this world can be exploited to the point where it is no longer funny. Not when it's delivered and presented with proper comedic skill. That is what Santino Marella is doing with his foreign goof character.

OK, you didn't say "completely" new. Literally, I went to an extreme that you didn't. Now you know what it's like to be on the end of most of your arguments. As I said, though, you're the one who chose to take it in the most linear fashion. You could have replied with "completely new is not an extreme I was referring to," and then explained that you just feel it should be new. Then I would still argue the same points to you.

What you are doing now, is what is referred to as a "straw-man" (this may or may not be the same "Strawman" you refer to). Something aimed by you at someone's argument which attempts to attack a single area of entire argument, blow it up to irrelevant proportions, and deflect it, making it appear like you've won said argument, when you have really just been evading the point.

Get out of the bundles and start firing something other than blanks. In case you are unable to understand metaphors, that means actually stay on topic, don't accuse me of something I did not do because you've got no meat on your argument (that means nothing substantial), and if you realise you have nothing (I'm sure you're honestly stupid enough to believe that you always have something, even when you only have a clogged artery), don't make up something.
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Someone takes thing a bit to seriously....Not going to say any names.....
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Someone takes thing a bit to seriously....Not going to say any names.....
I just get annoyed with KK. Honestly, if you spare the thought I am invested in this, you've wasted it. The only thing I invest is the couple of minutes it takes to type it as my coffee boils.
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Old 04-23-2008, 05:28 PM   #112
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Noid is so up tight.
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Jeus, he pulled a Kano, hel i couldn't spell the suposed lords name after reading that
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fuck still didn't spell it right, NOID
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I'm not sure if I should bother responding to that hissyfit or just laugh as everyone else has.
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Old 04-24-2008, 07:21 AM   #117
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I just get annoyed with KK. Honestly, if you spare the thought I am invested in this, you've wasted it. The only thing I invest is the couple of minutes it takes to type it as my coffee boils.
Though I very much love that he contradicts himself within a matter of one sentence.
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I hate CM Punk but i still hate you more you stupid son of a bitch, jesus christ shut the fuck up
I hate you to, but I don't go around calling people much MUCH smarter than me(which is no one) stupid.
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So whose sock is Dame1?

I mean, it's cute watching him to pretend to be smart, but that's Noid/Afterlife's domain.
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Except the bit on Santino.
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