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Old 05-22-2008, 02:00 PM   #81
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From Jim Ross' blog:

A Lesson to be Learned: "This should be a great lesson for every one on the roster.. be careful of every thing one ingests, including over the counter supplements that might contain even traces of banned substances. Education again becomes a key term in this issue as it is incumbent on each individual with which this program applies to know what is banned and what is not."




So hopefully, the above mistake was the case with Regal. As I can't see WWE being too harsh on him if thats what happened.
Generally the same excuse that athletes use when they've just been busted after breaking a world record by 10 minutes.

If this is true, then I say to Regal what I say to all the athletes in the world that throw that one out to keep credibility.

If you are so stupid that you don't know what is in supplements that you are taking, then you don't deserve to compete at a high level. If you are being TOLD by some jackass what to take, the you are even more retarded and should get a job in McDonalds flipping burgers.

Fucks sake, I hate that excuse. These people are supposedly intelligent adults, yet sit around crying 'waaa waaa, I didn't know what was in it'.

Surprised they don't drink bleach more often.
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:08 PM   #82
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Generally the same excuse that athletes use when they've just been busted after breaking a world record by 10 minutes.
Of course, smarks like Regal, so it'll be true no matter what.

Just like Benoit had no steroids in his system.

And RVD was busted and suspended for weed.

The rest of your point is valid, and in fact, you're right. I just wanted to make that specific comment.
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Old 05-22-2008, 11:04 PM   #83
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On the other hand, just because you don't like an excuse doesn't make it valid.
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Old 05-23-2008, 07:12 AM   #84
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On the other hand, just because you don't like an excuse doesn't make it valid.
I think Addy already put up a solid explanation for why it's not a valid excuse, regardless of whether one "likes" it or not. Or maybe not so much whether the excuse is valid, but the notion of responsibility for one's actions. It's really hard to feel bad for guys who have so little sense as to do things like Regal is now alleged to have done.
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Old 05-23-2008, 08:10 AM   #85
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I'd also point out the already mentioned fact that tons of athletes use this "excuse," which really should make anyone skeptical if that's really what Regal claims. It's not to say it's not true in his case, but that it seems long against, since it's one of the go-to excuses when you're caught with drugs.

Also, how the fuck do they find these supplements? WWE has looser testing policies than most corporate bodies, and I dunno. None of the people at the Nuclear plant have ever been busted for vitamins.
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Old 05-23-2008, 10:00 AM   #86
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I dunno, after reading regal's book, I can see it being true. I really doubt he's off the wagon.

Thats not to say I would excuse regal for it. You're in the biggest push of your entire career, you better be damn sure of what you're ingesting.
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Old 05-23-2008, 10:32 AM   #87
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I would have doubted that Eddie was off the wagon.

Tox reports and the Signature Pharmacy scandal indicated otherwise.

People who can seem sincere can also be very good liars. Drug addicitions are hard to kick, and a lot of people talk big about being over it when they're really not.

Is he back on drugs? I can't say. But I wouldn't take his book as any form of evidence, and the excuse is REALLY flimsy.
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Old 05-23-2008, 12:35 PM   #88
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wow, I leave for a week and I return to see the news. I missed Raw this week. Did they write him off somehow? They need to stop giving people major pushes. lol
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Old 05-23-2008, 01:39 PM   #89
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Kennedy beat him in a match where whoever lost got fired.
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Old 05-23-2008, 03:45 PM   #90
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I think Addy already put up a solid explanation for why it's not a valid excuse, regardless of whether one "likes" it or not. Or maybe not so much whether the excuse is valid, but the notion of responsibility for one's actions. It's really hard to feel bad for guys who have so little sense as to do things like Regal is now alleged to have done.
It was Addy's comment to which I was responding. You'll note, I wasn't justifying Regal's actions. Simply stating that, every now and then, life immitates the art of cliche. People really do slip on banana peels; overused explanations really are, sometimes, the case.

I'd also like to point out that using drugs doesn't mean you're addicted. Having a beer at the bar after work doesn't make you a drunk; smoking a joint after school doesn't make you a pothead; taking whatever Regal took, the one time we know he took it, doesn't make him a junkie.
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Old 05-23-2008, 03:52 PM   #91
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Umm...Regal has a history with drugs, man. I'm not saying he's a druggie or an addict because of this instance, I'm saying it because of the known instances prior to this, like the ones he speaks of in his book, ones other wrestlers have mentioned, etc.
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Plus, this isn't even his first suspension...
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Old 05-23-2008, 03:59 PM   #93
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I understand that. He also used to have short hair. Now he doesn't. Sometimes, people change.

The better point, perhaps, is that soimetimes people people can tackle their ailments and control them. But controlling an addiction doesn't mean never ussing the substance again. If you live in fear of the item, it still controls you. You can use a product without letting it running your life.
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So even after being warned by being suspended the first time (which I THINK was the prescription scandal last year - steroids etc), he gets caught again.

It may not be running his life, but it's ruining his career.
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I'm not arguing against that at all.
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I understand that. He also used to have short hair. Now he doesn't. Sometimes, people change.

Nice Damage control there.

Of course, if you were really going there in the first place, your analogy no longer works. It worked fine, assuming that this was an isolated instance. Though...If you could change your status as an addict as easily as cutting your hair...Unfortunately, you don't get to stop being an addict, and if you're an addict, "one beer" is no longer just "one beer." In and of itself, it's a danger sign.
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Old 05-23-2008, 05:47 PM   #97
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And yes, I read the rest of your post. The notion of controlled use by addicts flies in the face of, you know, real treatments of substance issues. But Hell, I only worked at a rehab clinic, what the fuck would I know about that?
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I'm not telling anyone they're wrong, KK. Feel free to calm down. I only chimed in in the first place to remind the conversation that anything is, in fact, possible.

But, since you brought it up, I don't care how many addicts you met. Not everyone who has a rough time with a substance is going to be overwhlemed by it forever. To think like that is simply tunnel vision.
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Also, I find it kind of funny that you worked at a rehab clinic.
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