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Old 06-25-2008, 07:03 PM   #81
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If Cole didn't immediately realise that he was going to Raw, he's an idiot. With Raw still due a draft pick seconds later, and their play-by-play guy just been taken away, and ECW not getting a draft pick, what was he realistically expecting? Lawler to SmackDown too, and no announce team on Raw? Adamle to Raw, leaving Tazz to announce ECW on his own?? Tazz to Raw, leaving Adamle on his own, and an all-colour Raw team??
I'm pretty sure this paragraph sums up everything regarding Cole's stupid "OMG look".
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Old 06-25-2008, 07:13 PM   #82
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JR's works for a company. The company doesn't work for JR. I love JR and all and yes, he has a right to bitch for things changing on him in the blink of an eye. And so does everyone else in th world that isn't an owner. But that's just business kids.
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Old 06-25-2008, 07:26 PM   #83
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(funny that KK and Noid have this feud going on, and Noid agrees with ME! Shows you who's the stupid one, huh, KK?).
You?

Seriously. I'm not sure which part of this actually makes sense to you, but the fact that you actually have to say "finally someone agrees with me" should be a big clue right here, DP.

It's not surprising that one irrational person could find another, but good for you. I hope you're happy, but "JR has been drafted to Smackdown, so I must be fired" is not a rational thought. Reasonably, with all the jobs that Cole could fill, nobody's first thought should be "uh oh." And that's without the apparently blatantly contrived draft picks.
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Old 06-25-2008, 07:28 PM   #84
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Yes, he has a right to bitch, so leave him to it.

I'm glad the King/JR team has been dissolved, they needed a change of scenary and to be taken out of their comfort zones, but WWE did it in a classless way.

Oh well, still a better fate than simply getting fired I guess.
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Old 06-25-2008, 07:33 PM   #85
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JR, for the record, is not a professional. He tends to sulk when things are not his way. For all the talk of Michaels "losing his smile," JR phones it in often enough. I don't know how the show was affected last night, but his look wasn't "I'm sad to be leaving Raw," as much as it was "I'm going to hold my breath until I turn blue!" The followup blog sounds like that, too. I'd call this a work, except that like others, I don't think JR's a good enough actor.

Similarly, I can't help but notice Cole's "I'm fired?" face carries on past the point that it's clear he's been drafted.
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Old 06-25-2008, 07:41 PM   #86
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I love the thought that he didn't know. I bet Cole nearly spunked all over Mick Foley when he saw that pop up on the HD-tron with no little video-game 'select your character' bit.

Didn't see him complaining when Joey Styles was shat all over for his benefit.
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Old 06-25-2008, 07:45 PM   #87
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Sulking doesn't make him unprofessional. As much as he may have bitched about and hated many things WWE have lumbered him with (quite vindictively) over the years, I've never heard of him flat out refusing to do anything. He has been constantly dealt a shitty hand by the creative team, more often than not in front of his home crowd too, yet gone along with it. He's been publicly fired several times (and now demoted) in a demeaning manner, kayfabe or not. Behind the scenes, he's had his pink slip for real twice. He has kissed Vince McMahon's bare ass. He has been beaten to a pulp, despite not being a wrestler. He has been continually replaced by men that the company feels would be better than him (only for each one of them to fail). He has been made to look foolish, spiteful, mean, gormless, cowardly, antiquated, disabled and ridiculous plus everything in between.

For a man widely respected by his colleagues and deemed by the company themselves as the greatest announcer of all-time, with 30 years in the business in virtually every role, it's truly pathetic that Vince plays these little games at JR's expense. I hope JR's restaurant chain is a huge success and he finally has the financial security to turn to Vince and tell him to shove his fucking job up his ass. Maybe even give TNA a shot in the arm by working for them.

I know I would never take that kind of humiliation from my employer, and I work in a much less visible and public environment. If I get humiliated at work, my friends and family don't have to watch it on live TV.
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Old 06-25-2008, 07:51 PM   #88
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I don't agree with this demotion thing tbh. As soon as Trips was drafted, it wasn't a demotion. It's an attempt to make Smackdown a strong brand, if anything - in my mind - it's a huge responsibility/task for JR and the other 'big' names that have gone over to SD to make it compelling and a success for its new network. You could almost call it the last chance saloon for the brand split.

If JR would like the easy 'phone it in' life on Raw, then he should retire. Simple as.
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Old 06-25-2008, 07:52 PM   #89
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The guy who whined about how he nearly quit isn't unprofessional. Well, it's a new spin on the concept of being a professional, I guess.
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Old 06-25-2008, 07:53 PM   #90
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Well he should have quit ages ago then. I wouldn't take the humiliation either.

However, if I was told I'd need to have to come to work on Tuesdays instead of Monday's, I'd just do it.
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:00 PM   #92
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And another thing, he was fired by a meglomaniac employer twice, during a time where there was plenty of work around for wraslin' announcers, did he really think it was going to be any different when he came back?

He was the head of talent relations for quite a while, so he knew the way the employees are treated, especially in their home towns - and he ripped a few on his Ross Reporrrr many a time (what was it, Val Venis is in gimmick limbo) when he could do things to sort it out - he's been a company kiss arse most of his employed WWE career, so I don't buy this crap he's pulling. Just cry baby rubbish from someone who should know better.
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:03 PM   #93
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Well he should have quit ages ago then. I wouldn't take the humiliation either.

However, if I was told I'd need to have to come to work on Tuesdays instead of Monday's, I'd just do it.
It's courtesy to let him know beforehand. He probably planned to go home right after Raw. Now he had to stick around for an extra 24 hrs plus make more travel/accommodation arrangements.

In the longer term, you don't know how this may affect his routine, with regards to his everyday life. It's easy to say "oh, I wouldn't care" but it's not JUST a one day a week job. Now when he works PPVs on Sundays, he will be on the road Saturday until Wednesday (hardly going to go home between Sunday's show and Tuesday's taping, is he?). For a guy who signed a contract to only work Mondays, now he will find himself of the road for an entire working week for every scheduled PPV week, which is something stupid like every 3 weeks nowadays.

He signed a contract on the proviso of "you are the voice of Monday Night Raw and we will continue to pay you to be". Now, his job role has changed, his working week has changed, and his travel routine (including his travel partner) has changed. All for the sake of a quick thrill, a pretty insignificant twist in the Draft and a McMahon laugh at his expense.
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:03 PM   #94
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But that's Vindictive Vince for ya.
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he was fired by a meglomaniac employer twice, during a time where there was plenty of work around for wraslin' announcers
What? Both his firings came in 1994, when the only other big company going was WCW, who employed Tony Schiavone, Eric Bischoff, Bobby Heenan, Jesse Ventura, Gene Okerlund, Dusty Rhodes, Larry Zbyszko, Mike Tenay and Gordon Solie during that year, and hadn't even launched Monday Nitro yet, so had a couple weekend shows and PPV/Clash specials to work with. Far too many to have any need for Jim Ross' services.
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:12 PM   #96
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The guy who whined about how he nearly quit isn't unprofessional. Well, it's a new spin on the concept of being a professional, I guess.
"Nearly" being the operative word. He didn't, in actuality, quit. He did what was (or rather wasn't) asked of him. He's more of a professional than most of the big name wrestlers in the business.
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Well he should have quit ages ago then. I wouldn't take the humiliation either.

However, if I was told I'd need to have to come to work on Tuesdays instead of Monday's, I'd just do it.
yea he should have quit when the idea of him joining the vinces kiss my ass club came up
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JR, for the record, is not a professional. He tends to sulk when things are not his way.
For crying out loud, he brought in Fake Razor and Fake Diesel because he wasn't getting his way.

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For all the talk of Michaels "losing his smile," JR phones it in often enough.
JR hasn't smiled since Bell's Palsy.

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I don't know how the show was affected last night, but his look wasn't "I'm sad to be leaving Raw," as much as it was "I'm going to hold my breath until I turn blue!"
Seriously. His look was "I belong on Raw, I'm too good for this, I deserve this." Then he posts a blog that's a vague threat that he might still quit. The whole thing screams "while I so nobly chose not to quit, I haven't quite ruled out the possibility if my position on Raw isn't reconsidered."

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The followup blog sounds like that, too. I'd call this a work, except that like others, I don't think JR's a good enough actor.
I've been reconsidering my stance on this. I mean, he was a good enough actor in '01 to pretend he didn't love kissing Vince's ass.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:31 PM   #99
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If Cole didn't immediately realise that he was going to Raw, he's an idiot. With Raw still due a draft pick seconds later, and their play-by-play guy just been taken away, and ECW not getting a draft pick, what was he realistically expecting? Lawler to SmackDown too, and no announce team on Raw? Adamle to Raw, leaving Tazz to announce ECW on his own?? Tazz to Raw, leaving Adamle on his own, and an all-colour Raw team??

There's no way Michael Cole didn't realise instantly that he was off to Raw, so save it.

Also, with those telling JR to stop bitching, I know where he's coming from. They didn't just change his job role slightly, they made a decision which changed his whole lifestyle and sprung it on him on live TV. JR has a business to run, and a ten-year old routine travelling with his best friend Jerry Lawler. It may only be one day but you don't know how much the move will interefere with his everyday life and affect the things he does on a weekly basis.

I'm not saying it's the same, but about a month ago the company I work for turned around to everyone and told them that our Mon-Fri (as they have been, unchanged, for the three years they have been in business) shifts would now incorporate Saturdays instead. You might think so what, but to me, that meant no more Friday nights out on the piss... and considering all my buddies tend to do their drinking and socialising on Fridays, that fucked up my routine and my social life. But that's nothing compared to some of my co-workers. Some of them had weekend jobs to supplement their wages which they then had to give up. Some have kids and must now arrange childcare on Saturdays out of their own pockets. One guy in particular was a semi-pro footballer who had just signed for a team and, as my company is his full-time job and main source of income (and the team plays Saturdays), he can no longer play football. It has cost him money and his sporting career.

I know it's not that similar, being too starkly different types of job, but still I'm just trying to convey how forcibly altering somebody's entire routine by just one day can fuck up a lot of shit, and they should have had the courtesy to give him at the very least some advance warning, if not allow him the opportunity to put together a case as to why he can't make the move to SmackDown.
I disagree completely. Not about your story about the job, I'm sure it had some really negative effects on you and a lot of people you know, so I am sorry about that, but Michael Cole to RAW.

In a situation like that, emotion takes over. There have been times in front of crowds when, intellectually, I know I've got something coming my way, but at the time, I'm not thinking with my head, and it still knocks the wind out of me. You are waiting for that moment when it becomes official, so you're not grasping at theoretical straws. JR has talked about how announcers are expendable in the past, and Michael Cole recently got booted off WWE.com. No one would he seem himself as a bigger commentator than Jim Ross, and he probably has never heard anyone with power seriously mention a move to RAW for him.

To be honest, it only took a few seconds of serious thought past my first instinct to realise that the WWE were swapping Jim Ross and Michael Cole. To be honest, the only move I was sure about was JR. I said in the RAW thread that it's the only move that is logical. Natalya and Victoria needed to win, and Jim Ross would need to move to SmackDown!, because Mick Foley is still fairly new as a commentator, and is probably not ready for live shows, as One Night Stand 2005 kind of proved. Therefore, it had to be JR going to SmackDown!, looking at it logically.

Therefore, is anybody that was surprised by JR moving an idiot? Not at all, they just didn't think it through. I'm sure Michael Cole, who had to call a wrestling match (and although the commentary wandered in that match, he and King were assigned it, and he'd have had one eye on that, and one on being witty.

Also, as far as the scheduling changes go? Is your protest against the draft in general, because those guys are going to suffer, too, and they weren't told in advance. None of them appear to be bitching. The duties of a SmackDown! commentator leave time for the announcer to do other things, as Michael Cole was in charge of WWE.com, too, so I assume there would be time for JR's business. He'd need to go into work Tuesdays, instead of Mondays, and then it'd be post-production mid-week. He'd still have his weekends free, and they'd be a little extended with Monday off.
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It's not surprising that one irrational person could find another, but good for you. I hope you're happy, but "JR has been drafted to Smackdown, so I must be fired" is not a rational thought. Reasonably, with all the jobs that Cole could fill, nobody's first thought should be "uh oh." And that's without the apparently blatantly contrived draft picks.
"All the jobs Cole could fill?" Like what? Working as a backstage announcer? Working with Adamle to make him not so horrible? For all Cole knew, Todd Grisham was coming out to do commentary with King. You have to keep in the mind the guy recently got relieved from one of his jobs.

When you are out there calling a wrestling show in front of several thousand people, and someone takes your position, your reaction is "what now?" I don't think Cole is that good an actor to pull that kind of emotion off without reason. The man did seem to have an unnatural attachment to SmackDown!, too.
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I've been calling it for a couple of years now, and I'll say it again-

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Josh Matthews is the future of wrestling commentary.
Very much so. I'd actually go as far as to say he's the most misused talent at the WWE's disposal. If JR plays up on SmackDown!, or decides he wants to leave shortly down the line, Josh Mathews and Mick Foley would make a damn good commentary team.
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"All the jobs Cole could fill?" Like what? Working as a backstage announcer? Working with Adamle to make him not so horrible? For all Cole knew, Todd Grisham was coming out to do commentary with King. You have to keep in the mind the guy recently got relieved from one of his jobs.

When you are out there calling a wrestling show in front of several thousand people, and someone takes your position, your reaction is "what now?" I don't think Cole is that good an actor to pull that kind of emotion off without reason. The man did seem to have an unnatural attachment to SmackDown!, too.
Oh, and though this was something I had clearly meant before, I think KK is not bright enough to take in that when I said "finally, someone agrees with me", I was meaning someone finally GETS what I was trying to get at (not many seemed to here, even though it wasn't hard to get. Sometimes I wonder about a few people who post here).

Oh, and by the way, Noid is one of the brightest people on this board that seems to always come up with good ideas that many people agree with (including yours truly), so KK, you already failed right there. Of course, you can come up with good ideas, too, when you're not busy calling someone that clearly disagrees with your opinion a retard.
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Also, as far as the scheduling changes go? Is your protest against the draft in general, because those guys are going to suffer, too, and they weren't told in advance.
Not really, because they are full-time guys who spend the majority of their time on the road anyway. It may change certain things, but they made a choice to go into a career where they knew they'd spend little time at home. Several years ago, Jim Ross gave up his full time job to work a one-or-two day week schedule.
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There have been talks of moving Cole into the "main announcer" roll for years. Likewise, there's been no info on him having problems with the company, or the company have problems with him. Furthermore, even IF RAW would have drafted somone from ECW, then ECW would have an open announcing spot... OR, maybe Smackdown was going to have a 3 man team, that's been done before too.

For Cole to assume he's out of a job suddenly is idiotic. Even if he wasn't going to be announcing, there is no reason to assume he was suddenly going to be release from his contract and out of a job.

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In the longer term, you don't know how this may affect his routine, with regards to his everyday life. It's easy to say "oh, I wouldn't care" but it's not JUST a one day a week job. Now when he works PPVs on Sundays, he will be on the road Saturday until Wednesday (hardly going to go home between Sunday's show and Tuesday's taping, is he?). For a guy who signed a contract to only work Mondays, now he will find himself of the road for an entire working week for every scheduled PPV week, which is something stupid like every 3 weeks nowadays.

He signed a contract on the proviso of "you are the voice of Monday Night Raw and we will continue to pay you to be". Now, his job role has changed, his working week has changed, and his travel routine (including his travel partner) has changed. All for the sake of a quick thrill, a pretty insignificant twist in the Draft and a McMahon laugh at his expense
Oh noes, poor Jim Ross. He essentially has a dream job for someone who loves wrestling. If he's going to bitch about his work day changing, or possibly having to be on the road an extra 4-5 days, then screw him. A lot of people would kill for his job.

And I highly doubt his contract has any provision, or wording, about him being the "Raw announcer." Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he has a generic corporate contract that everyone else who isn't an actual wrestler/ref/manager probably gets.
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When the question "Are you out of a job?" came up, I'm sure it was strictly in refernce to commentating. That being said, he was shocked, as were the others, before the question was asked. I imagine his shock was simply because JR got drafted.

And sure, there has been talk, though mild, of making him the top commentator, but if he wasn't told, then it was a damn surprise. He just got, as many perceive it, a promotion, on live tv, and didn't know how to absorb while going on with the show. You people who sit there and call him an idiot or a phony because he was taking in a career change on live television are fucking unbelieveable.
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I'm only calling him an idiot of he thought he was out of a job.
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Then you didn't understand my point. Yes, he may have still been employed by the company in another position, but he didn't know until his pciture came up what that position might be. Therefor, if he was wondering if he was out of a job, it was the job he currently HELD, being that of a commentator.
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So hundreds of thousands of wrestling fans can comprehend what's going on immediately, but he can't, and that's an excuse? If his initial response was anything other than "Holy shit, I'm going to Raw", then he needs to work on his deductive reasoning skills.

One can argue that it may not have been the definite course of events, but it was the most likely. He would have been much more justified if his face didn't show up5 seconds later.
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He is under contract for WWE. They tell him what to do and as an employee you do as you're told quite frankly. If not then leave. No need to threaten it like your royalty, just do it if you're serious. I just hate how JR wants so much sympathy from this. It's clearly showingnow that he thought him and Lawler were untouchable at the Raw announce team. Now he's being put in his place.

To be honest, if you run a business why would you give a fuck about 'being nice and curteous'. I'm sure Vince doesn't give a fuck about how JR feels, and I wouldn't either. I doubt Vince would lose much sleep if JR did quit, that's why he wasn't afraid to make the decision to draft him on Monday. If you're told in your company to do something, just do it. If your company makes a decision that they think is good for business, you should just respect it and get on with it.
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For Cole to assume he's out of a job suddenly is idiotic. Even if he wasn't going to be announcing, there is no reason to assume he was suddenly going to be release from his contract and out of a job.
I've bolded the key bit. If I were an announcer, I'd definitely be a little upset if a situation came up where I didn't know if I'd be able to do the job I wanted to do anymore.
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He is under contract for WWE. They tell him what to do and as an employee you do as you're told quite frankly. If not then leave. No need to threaten it like your royalty, just do it if you're serious. I just hate how JR wants so much sympathy from this. It's clearly showingnow that he thought him and Lawler were untouchable at the Raw announce team. Now he's being put in his place.

To be honest, if you run a business why would you give a fuck about 'being nice and curteous'. I'm sure Vince doesn't give a fuck about how JR feels, and I wouldn't either. I doubt Vince would lose much sleep if JR did quit, that's why he wasn't afraid to make the decision to draft him on Monday. If you're told in your company to do something, just do it. If your company makes a decision that they think is good for business, you should just respect it and get on with it.

that's pretty much my exact feelings
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So hundreds of thousands of wrestling fans can comprehend what's going on immediately, but he can't, and that's an excuse? If his initial response was anything other than "Holy shit, I'm going to Raw", then he needs to work on his deductive reasoning skills.

One can argue that it may not have been the definite course of events, but it was the most likely. He would have been much more justified if his face didn't show up5 seconds later.
Then JR has no reason to be shocked, either. Once Victoria and Natalya were announced as Mickie James and Melina's opponents, it was pretty obvious that The Bitch Best Friends Forever were going over. Natalya is fairly unestablished as a female competitor, and she has a match coming up on PPV where she is expected to become the first-ever Divas Champion. Her team was not going to lose.

As the draft was only for major moves, Jim Ross or Jerry Lawler would then be the likely picks to move over to SmackDown!. Meaning we'd either get a Jim Ross/Mick Foley RAW team, or a Michael Cole/Jerry Lawler SmackDown! team. Mick Foley is very new to his job on SmackDown!, and is not nearly experienced enough to work live television. Therefore, as SmackDown! was not going to have two color commentators, Jim Ross to SmackDown! was the logical RAW to SmackDown! move.

If JR can lay claim to being shocked and confused about the move, Michael Cole can as well. I also maintain that it is very, very different sitting at home and guessing what is coming, and being out there in front of thousands of people doing live commentary and being with it.

Michael Cole may not have thought he was getting forced out of the WWE, but there was no foregone conclusion that someone else wasn't going to get the RAW play-by-play slot. The WWE has been in talks with that Mike Goldberg guy in the past, and they brought in Mike Adamle for seemingly no reason at all. Vince has ADD when it comes to commentators. I would not put it past the man to bump off Michael Cole for some kind of stunt-commentator trial.

Another thing to keep in mind, is that Melina was legitimately injured during all of this. The ending to the match was rushed, and if Michael Cole knew that Melina was legitimately injured (the referee could communicate with gorilla, and gorilla could communicate with Michael Cole), then the double disqualification ending might not have seemed like the intended deal. It's not like the match went perfectly to plan like, say, John Morrison & The Miz vs. The Hardy Boyz.

I think what it comes down to is this: Michael Cole did not have the same knowledge and perspective as wrestling fans. He was much more emotionally invested in the situation, and it is irresponsible for anyone to say the guy was an idiot for not being sure exactly what was going on by the powers of deduction. JR should have realised at the beginning of the match that he was going to SmackDown!, if that were the case.
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He is under contract for WWE. They tell him what to do and as an employee you do as you're told quite frankly. If not then leave. No need to threaten it like your royalty, just do it if you're serious. I just hate how JR wants so much sympathy from this. It's clearly showingnow that he thought him and Lawler were untouchable at the Raw announce team. Now he's being put in his place.

To be honest, if you run a business why would you give a fuck about 'being nice and curteous'. I'm sure Vince doesn't give a fuck about how JR feels, and I wouldn't either. I doubt Vince would lose much sleep if JR did quit, that's why he wasn't afraid to make the decision to draft him on Monday. If you're told in your company to do something, just do it. If your company makes a decision that they think is good for business, you should just respect it and get on with it.
That's pretty much it. JR may be a legend, but right now, he is a crappy play-by-play commentator, in my opinion. If he wanted to stay on RAW, he and King should have put on commentary that was a little more compelling than they had.

I don't even think his move to SmackDown! is a demotion. He's there with Triple H and Maria (hey, she's the hottest Diva in the WWE at the moment) to help get some major attention for the show, and to turn it around. In some ways, the move could be interpreted as a major sign of respect to JR's following as an announcer (not so much his current abilities).

Besides, the WWE has more commentators than it knows what to do with. Not being used by the WWE at the moment: Joey Styles, Josh Mathews, Todd Grisham and Jack Korpela. Joey Styles is Joey fucking Styles, if need be. Mathews can do color commentary and play-by-play, and is the WWE's most underused resource, Jack Korpela does his research extraordinarily well, and Todd Grisham has improved a lot. JR isn't needed. I don't fault Vince at all for making this move. JR needs the WWE a lot more than the WWE needs him.
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When the question "Are you out of a job?" came up, I'm sure it was strictly in refernce to commentating. That being said, he was shocked, as were the others, before the question was asked. I imagine his shock was simply because JR got drafted.

And sure, there has been talk, though mild, of making him the top commentator, but if he wasn't told, then it was a damn surprise. He just got, as many perceive it, a promotion, on live tv, and didn't know how to absorb while going on with the show. You people who sit there and call him an idiot or a phony because he was taking in a career change on live television are fucking unbelieveable.
That's exactly it.
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LOL Kevin Kelly says it's probably because Vince doesn't like looking at him [J.R] because he is fat which is a sign of weakness and becaue he said he wouldn't want to work for Smackdown.
To be perfectly honest, it wouldn't surprise me if there is truth to this. The WWE has been trying to replace JR for years. That's pretty much why they hired Joey Styles back when. They thought JR's face was too monged for viewers.

Even with his son-in-law on SmackDown!, Vince probably still won't watch SmackDown!, and won't have to see JR again until PPV.
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I'm not sure if this has been mentioned in this thread or not, because I only skimmed through it. But after reading JRs blog, one thing crossed my mind. He said he was ready to quit and just not show up for smackdown.

Now, concerning Austins walkout in 2002, JR has stated on Austins DVD, confidential, and I'm sure more things, that Austin 'taking his ball and going home' because of a creative decision he didn't like was completly unproffessional, and all around the wrong thing to do.

Apparently double standards apply
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Old 06-26-2008, 02:21 PM   #120
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I'm not sure if this has been mentioned in this thread or not, because I only skimmed through it. But after reading JRs blog, one thing crossed my mind. He said he was ready to quit and just not show up for smackdown.

Now, concerning Austins walkout in 2002, JR has stated on Austins DVD, confidential, and I'm sure more things, that Austin 'taking his ball and going home' because of a creative decision he didn't like was completly unproffessional, and all around the wrong thing to do.

Apparently double standards apply
That just about says it right there.
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