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Old 05-19-2009, 08:13 PM   #81
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Erm, I'm a Brit, scheduling conflicts is our daily bread. Why can't they move the NBA game back a day?
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Old 05-19-2009, 08:16 PM   #82
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Erm, I'm a Brit, scheduling conflicts is our daily bread. Why can't they move the NBA game back a day?
TV scheduling, rights, advertising revenue, sponsorships...the list goes on.
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Old 05-19-2009, 08:19 PM   #83
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Erm, I'm a Brit, scheduling conflicts is our daily bread. Why can't they move the NBA game back a day?
wtf. What's more important? an NBA playoff game or a fucking WWE RAW show. Come on.
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Old 05-19-2009, 08:23 PM   #84
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What's more important? Being a decent businessman and honoring a contract which could have been resolved or break that contract, look like an ass in the media and maybe lose potential revenue from organizations who may have booked the center but didn't in light of these events?

As much as you might think an NBA playoff is more important than a WWE show, this is bad business and any decent businessman wouldn't have let this happen in the first place, let alone allow it to happen in such a public forum. Legally speaking, it's WWE's building that night.
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Old 05-19-2009, 08:30 PM   #85
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wtf. What's more important? an NBA playoff game or a fucking WWE RAW show. Come on.
It's not really about what's more important, but what is contractually binding.

Moving the NBA game back a day seems like a pretty easy solution to the problem, I doubt the sponsorships etc would be that effected as they'd come into play the following day.

To me, this all seems a bit 'wrassling is fake so who cares' type of attitude from the other parties.
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Old 05-19-2009, 08:41 PM   #86
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Yeah. If Vince has the rights to the building, what does it matter which is more important? Every fan who has tickets could decide they want to give them up so the playoff game can go on, all the wrestlers could decide they don't want to show up and Vince could just decide he wants to show and empty arena on screen for two hours and he can. As well he should be able to. Too bad.
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lol. Vince should just make a basketball court at the Pepsi Center and have a group of heels dressed in Nuggets jerseys and a group of faces dressed in Lakers jerseys and just have a game right there. And every once in a while, someone gets fouled and settles the dispute in a wrestling match.
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Obviously Denver is in the wrong here, and in a perfect world the WWE should get the arena, but they aren't going to get it.

It's not happening.
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lol. Vince should just make a basketball court at the Pepsi Center and have a group of heels dressed in Nuggets jerseys and a group of faces dressed in Lakers jerseys and just have a game right there. And every once in a while, someone gets fouled and settles the dispute in a wrestling match.
I'd love to see them play a pick up game of basket ball. Have Kobe on one team to see what happens.
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Obviously Denver is in the wrong here, and in a perfect world the WWE should get the arena, but they aren't going to get it.

It's not happening.
If Vince is absolutely not willing to bend and wants the arena, WWE will get it. There is no way around it. It's up to Denver to entice WWE somehow to move the show. Vince doesn't have to do shit. WWE has the rights to the building. It's theirs. End of discussion.

I just don't want Vince to crack. I'm a sucker for controversy. I want Vince to take it as a battle won if he keeps the building just to see what the Nuggets do. I want him to force their hand.
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WWE isn't getting the arena.
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wtf. What's more important? an NBA playoff game or a fucking WWE RAW show. Come on.
Yes, what's more important that a fully developed and choreographed show taking place on a scheduled time due to contracts or a fucking game with a ball you can play in any high school gym...
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WWE isn't getting the arena.
They probably won't. I'm just saying the "In a perfect world, WWE would get the arena" thing implies that WWE will lose out or something which just isn't possible. They have the right to the arena. The Nuggets will end up getting the arena because I'm sure they want it badly enough to make Vince a ridiculous offer that he can't turn down.

Which sucks. But you know Vince is just sitting back loving having this kind of power and he'll milk it for all it's worth before finally taking the offer.
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Yes, what's more important that a fully developed and choreographed show taking place on a scheduled time due to contracts or a fucking game with a ball you can play in any high school gym...
Especially apt, since NBA has no contractual obligations of its own...
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If they don't get the arena they should make a vow that if this situation happens again in any other place WWE will never book in those arenas again.
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If they don't get the arena they should make a vow that if this situation happens again in any other place WWE will never book in those arenas again.

So if they lose tons of money for one night because of a scheduling conflict, they should in turn cost themselves MORE money in the future by removing potential venues from their schedule? You are a wise businessman.
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If they don't get the arena they should make a vow that if this situation happens again in any other place WWE will never book in those arenas again.
Hmmm. I understand your point but I don't know how effective that strategy would be.

How often would the WWE hold an event in any of these arenas?

Somewhere between 0-2 times per year each?

Compared to how many Basketball games.
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:30 PM   #104
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lol... WWE WILL NOT LOSE MONEY.

They have the rights to the arena. The Nuggets will make sure WWE is compensated by accommodating them in a new arena and then some. WWE doesn't have to do anything therefore it is up to the Nuggets to give WWE whatever it takes to make them happy.
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:31 PM   #105
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Vince will probably give in at the last moment, but after the game the players may come back to see their bags soiled.
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:32 PM   #106
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I say all Nuggets players wear a John Cena jersey instead and they call it even...
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:48 PM   #107
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So if they lose tons of money for one night because of a scheduling conflict, they should in turn cost themselves MORE money in the future by removing potential venues from their schedule? You are a wise businessman.
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lol... WWE WILL NOT LOSE MONEY.

They have the rights to the arena. The Nuggets will make sure WWE is compensated by accommodating them in a new arena and then some. WWE doesn't have to do anything therefore it is up to the Nuggets to give WWE whatever it takes to make them happy.
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:50 PM   #108
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Cause I'm sure Vince will agree to give up his contractual rights to lose money...
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:50 PM   #109
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Plans for the WWE invasiom angle:

-Get experienced barricade jumper Matt Hardy to steal an NBA house mic and yell, "Come see Matt Hardy on Monday Night Raw...R A W!"

-Have MVP perform the "Ballin' maneuver on a Nuggets player with an actual basketball

-CM Punk gets pinned cleanly by Carmelo Anthony in the opening match
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:52 PM   #110
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lol. I do not foresee the time when the WWE/NBA jokes will run their course...
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:53 PM   #111
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Somebody will be switching arenas, and it will 99% most likely be WWE.
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:53 PM   #112
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Cause I'm sure Vince will agree to give up his contractual rights to lose money...
...Cause I'm sure that's the only possible resolution other than the scenario you've provided.
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:54 PM   #113
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Vince will agree to ANYTHING IF he can make money out of it. Not just in the short-term but also for the future.

I said it before, the WWE would have a 'Plan B' ready to go at moment's notice and (wisely) keeping it to themselves.

He will milk this for all the money and publicity he can get. One way or another RAW will go ahead next week SOMEWHERE and Vince will have made money on the deal.
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:00 PM   #114
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Kane Knight, what do you think will be the resolution to this problem?
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:07 PM   #115
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Stan Kroenke must come to Vince's house every night for a month and check for monsters under the bed....
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Old 05-20-2009, 01:53 AM   #116
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If they didn't allow Vince and his trucks in, couldn't Vince technically call some local police down there?

He has a contract, I'd keep on it, unless offered a ton.

Or, HUGE plugs throughout the whole game...

Make JR announce the basketball game...
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Old 05-20-2009, 03:12 AM   #117
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Yeah so as a Brit that sees both sides being able to put up the same arguments (TV scheduling, loss of revenue etc) what is the likely outcome? I mean I guess the NBA team own the arena, or is that not true? I guess the arena would get a bad reputation for not being able to meet it's commitments but would they really suffer in the long term?
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Yeah so as a Brit that sees both sides being able to put up the same arguments (TV scheduling, loss of revenue etc) what is the likely outcome? I mean I guess the NBA team own the arena, or is that not true? I guess the arena would get a bad reputation for not being able to meet it's commitments but would they really suffer in the long term?
yes stan kronke owns both the nuggets and pepsi center
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Erm, I'm a Brit, scheduling conflicts is our daily bread. Why can't they move the NBA game back a day?
They're playing on Saturday as well so they'll need a rest day.
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RRROOOFFLLLLL my ex girlfriend got tickets to that fuckin game, better not get cancelled over some bullshit wrestling
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wtf. What's more important? an NBA playoff game or a fucking WWE RAW show. Come on.
Ok Sammy we get it, you hate wrestling. But stop making fucking bullshit points just to belittle WWE and not realise what's right and wrong here. Doesn't fucking matter what you consider to be "more important", it's a contract.
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