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Old 05-31-2009, 02:23 PM   #81
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Old 05-31-2009, 02:29 PM   #82
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lol. The Rock did not main event WrestleMania within 18 months of his debut. Unless you count his "debut" as when he turned heel and changed his name which is just misleading.
My bad. He main evented Mania 15, not 14 like I was thinking. Kennedy never main evented Mania in 2 1/2 years from his debut either though.
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Old 05-31-2009, 02:31 PM   #83
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I don't think he's injured.

WWE never said they released him due to injuried though. That is internet speculation.
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Old 05-31-2009, 02:35 PM   #84
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Duh?

Unless it's drug testing-related, they very rarely if ever announce WHY they release them anyway.
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Old 05-31-2009, 02:41 PM   #85
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Corporate would've stated if it was drug related.
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Old 05-31-2009, 02:54 PM   #86
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Duh?

Unless it's drug testing-related, they very rarely if ever announce WHY they release them anyway.
So nobody knows the real reason other than WWE then? I'm shocked.
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Old 05-31-2009, 03:01 PM   #87
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WWE never said they released him due to injuried though. That is internet speculation.
But it's certainly what's being insinuated, even by Jim Ross.
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Old 05-31-2009, 03:57 PM   #88
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Duh?

Unless it's drug testing-related, they very rarely if ever announce WHY they release them anyway.
The new "rumor" is that Kennedy and Orton had words after the match, and people were pissed because of the backdrop on Orton. Basically, the rumor is Kennedy could have injured Orton's previously injured shoulder, and Kennedy wasn't protecting others in the ring well enough.
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Old 05-31-2009, 04:51 PM   #89
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Old 05-31-2009, 07:49 PM   #90
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But it's certainly what's being insinuated, even by Jim Ross.
No doubting this but was it on his blog or something. I haven't seen it.
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Old 05-31-2009, 07:52 PM   #91
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I find the Kennedy hating quite interesting. I wonder what the vast opinion would be if all the plans for him had come of.

He would have held the title and been involved in a huge angle with McMahon that would have cemented him in the Main Event scene. He had some serious bad luck with the MitB situation - losing the briefcase due to an misdiagnosis on an injury. The drugs bust was all on him though.

I'm sure he will be back.
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Old 05-31-2009, 08:47 PM   #92
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I would have liked him to become a star because the company needs more fresh stars but he proved he isn't up to it.
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Old 05-31-2009, 08:57 PM   #93
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I don't know, there was something about him. He was missing something.
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Old 05-31-2009, 10:44 PM   #94
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I don't know, there was something about him. He was missing something.
A body that could withstand a light gust of wind?
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Old 05-31-2009, 10:51 PM   #95
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I liked Kennedy up and til his very first big WWE injury. I don't think he was ever the same after that.

I think that injury was 2 years ago.
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Old 06-01-2009, 12:12 AM   #96
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This was clearly filmed months ahead of time because he knew he was going to get fired for injury relatedness sooner or later. He has similar videos of him doing the same thing with his feet, neck, ears, shoulders, and penis.
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Old 06-01-2009, 12:13 AM   #97
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Also, Matt Hardy is plugging this vid on his Myspace. I wonder if he'll end up with TEH HEATZ for that...
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Old 06-01-2009, 01:32 AM   #98
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maybe wwe was planning this..

they were giving away kennedy t-shirts on their smash-ups video thing. i got one..
it's nice
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The word on Mr. Kennedy's surprising release from World Wrestling Entertainment Friday night is that almost injuring Randy Orton as well as himself during his match on Raw last week was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Kennedy made his return to Raw on Monday night after a ten month hiatus rehabbing a badly injured shoulder. As bad luck would have it, Kennedy ended up injuring his wrist after taking the RKO from Orton. More seriously in the eyes of management, Orton nearly re-injured his bad shoulder as a result of an errant back suplex on the part of Kennedy, who dropped him on his shoulder rather than his back. This happened to be the same area where he broke his collarbone exactly one year ago today at the One Night Stand pay-per-view, resulting in a several month absence from the ring. Orton was visibly upset as he quickly tried slapping Kennedy on the back of his head and started pounding his fist on the mat before finally selling the maneuver.

While Kennedy suffered an injury to his wrist as a result of an RKO from Orton, it wasn't believed to be serious.

Following the show, Orton and Kennedy had words backstage, although it was not heated. Very calmly, Orton dressed him down, telling him he needed to be more careful so he wouldn't injure anyone else in the ring.

Internally, many are singling out Kennedy's sloppy maneuver on Orton as the final straw and caused Vince McMahon, following several attempts over the years to push him, and numerous untimely setbacks, to finally make the decision to part ways with him.
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Old 06-01-2009, 06:58 PM   #100
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Actually it proves you wrong. Rock got over huge within a year of his debut and main evented Wrestlemania within 18 months of his debut. Ken Kennedy never came close. Rocky never got fired for being a putz either.

And it made me laugh how people here forgot his feuds too. Proves the point about MR......... ah I forget his name.
Two notes. First, thanks to #1-wwf-fan for clearing up the Rock situation, as it was considerably more than 18 months. Second, it does not prove me wrong, because my point in talking about my cousin and her husband was to show that the opinions of your friends pretty much means jack considering it's just their opinions.

Also, wrestling fans have notedly short memory spans - this is an out of sight, out of mind kind of business. Just because some people can't remember his feuds (probably the same people who have instances of losing their car keys every other week) doesn't mean that Kennedy didn't have good feuds, good matches and that he wasn't a high quality performer with tons of potential.

Your point that started all this was that "Kennedy sucked, he was never anything and is bland and just sucks." My point is that he is the opposite, and simply continued to get dealt shitty ass hands.
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I was thinking about it all and Kennedy would have been great if he stayed healthy, but in WWE terms, I do not think this is a huge loss for them.

I am not hating on Kennedy, but with all the time he missed, WWE still went on and put on good shows, up until the current draft.

I think he will be fine and possibly resigned again once he proves he can stay healthy, I have a feeling that a TNA stint is in Kennedy's future.
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Old 06-01-2009, 09:09 PM   #102
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I think it's a huge loss for WWE. Let me preface this though by saying I AM NOT SAYING HE WAS THE NEXT ROCK OR PUTTING HIM ON THE SAME LEVEL AS THE ROCK IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

Okay, there. Now... I do think that WWE could use a "Rock-like" charcter, for lack of a better term. By that, I mean a charismatic, fun babyface that has a fun shtick that people can get behind (Ending his promos with the Mr. Kennedy................ Kennedy was just all kinds of awesome and I think if he had become the huge star that many think he would have, it would have been up there with the great "catchphrases" in wrestling history. Without a doubt.)

I think it's a huge loss because I personally can see no one on the WWE roster at the moment who has what it takes to be that guy. Kennedy was it.
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The word on Mr. Kennedy's surprising release from World Wrestling Entertainment Friday night is that almost injuring Randy Orton as well as himself during his match on Raw last week was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Kennedy made his return to Raw on Monday night after a ten month hiatus rehabbing a badly injured shoulder. As bad luck would have it, Kennedy ended up injuring his wrist after taking the RKO from Orton. More seriously in the eyes of management, Orton nearly re-injured his bad shoulder as a result of an errant back suplex on the part of Kennedy, who dropped him on his shoulder rather than his back. This happened to be the same area where he broke his collarbone exactly one year ago today at the One Night Stand pay-per-view, resulting in a several month absence from the ring. Orton was visibly upset as he quickly tried slapping Kennedy on the back of his head and started pounding his fist on the mat before finally selling the maneuver.

While Kennedy suffered an injury to his wrist as a result of an RKO from Orton, it wasn't believed to be serious.

Following the show, Orton and Kennedy had words backstage, although it was not heated. Very calmly, Orton dressed him down, telling him he needed to be more careful so he wouldn't injure anyone else in the ring.

Internally, many are singling out Kennedy's sloppy maneuver on Orton as the final straw and caused Vince McMahon, following several attempts over the years to push him, and numerous untimely setbacks, to finally make the decision to part ways with him.
This is laughable
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Old 06-01-2009, 09:15 PM   #104
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Just because some people can't remember his feuds (probably the same people who have instances of losing their car keys every other week) doesn't mean that Kennedy didn't have good feuds, good matches and that he wasn't a high quality performer with tons of potential.
All the potential in the world is worthless if you never live up to it. Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

Also, my definition of "high quality performer" would include "rarely gets hurt and rarely hurts others".
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I think it's a huge loss for WWE. Let me preface this though by saying I AM NOT SAYING HE WAS THE NEXT ROCK OR PUTTING HIM ON THE SAME LEVEL AS THE ROCK IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

Okay, there. Now... I do think that WWE could use a "Rock-like" charcter, for lack of a better term. By that, I mean a charismatic, fun babyface that has a fun shtick that people can get behind (Ending his promos with the Mr. Kennedy................ Kennedy was just all kinds of awesome and I think if he had become the huge star that many think he would have, it would have been up there with the great "catchphrases" in wrestling history. Without a doubt.)

I think it's a huge loss because I personally can see no one on the WWE roster at the moment who has what it takes to be that guy. Kennedy was it.
Yeah, but it is not like they doing extremely worse without him. WWE has been pretty good w/o him when he was out. I am not hating on Kennedy. I have no idea how good he could be, but I don't think this is as big of a loss to WWE as other superstars would be.
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Old 06-02-2009, 12:27 AM   #109
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The thought of him being released over one 'incident' is short-sighted. You get hurt all the time. I doubt it's the first time Orton has had a 'scare' regarding his shoulder. They've invested a lot of time in Kennedy and at one point, felt very highly of him. And if they didn't still think of something of him, it was strange to have him 'confront' Orton. If he was considered 'dangerous', why wouldn't they send him to Florida for a few weeks/a month? Considering he only wrestled a couple of times before being put back on TV, they must expect some form of ring rust if that's going to be the reason. Huge over-reaction if it was. I still think he'll be back.
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Ya. There's obviously a lot more to this than we know... after all all we know was that he was released. It's most likely linked to the back suplex, but no one in WWE would be released over one messed up back suplex.
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Seriously though, I've said it so many times, all the Kennedy haters have no reason for hating him other than "He sucks" and "He's not good" and "He says his name twice". First of all, last I checked, somebody getting injured a lot isn't always their fault, the blame also lies on the OTHER guy. Unless Kennedy has been actively trying to hurt himself in the ring. I'll point again to how much I love his "defensive" style of wrestling: he's always giving the impression that he's trying to counter his opponent's offense, whether he actually does or not. I like that a lot, and nobody else does it. He was also quite over, even despite all the setbacks.
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He was so much better in OVW than he was ever in The E.

Oh well, I'm sure he will find work somewhere.
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Seriously though, I've said it so many times, all the Kennedy haters have no reason for hating him other than "He sucks" and "He's not good" and "He says his name twice". First of all, last I checked, somebody getting injured a lot isn't always their fault, the blame also lies on the OTHER guy. Unless Kennedy has been actively trying to hurt himself in the ring. I'll point again to how much I love his "defensive" style of wrestling: he's always giving the impression that he's trying to counter his opponent's offense, whether he actually does or not. I like that a lot, and nobody else does it. He was also quite over, even despite all the setbacks.
He got injured because he isn't any good.

And he was mildly over because he could say his name twice, not due to his ring work.

I thought we went over this?
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No doubting this but was it on his blog or something. I haven't seen it.

Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier, but yes, it was in his blog. He didn't say "Kennedy was fired for his injury," but he may as well have.
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He got injured because he isn't any good.

And he was mildly over because he could say his name twice, not due to his ring work.

I thought we went over this?


You're pretty set with that opinion aren't you? lol
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You're pretty set with that opinion aren't you? lol
Yep. I can't recall him ever having what I'd call a great match for a start and I'm been super unimpressed by a super hyped internet fan favourite.
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