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Old 01-30-2017, 12:26 PM   #1161
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Big E needed a cart too..that's hilarious.
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Old 01-30-2017, 12:34 PM   #1162
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Yeah, I don't see how Taker/Roman and Goldberg/Brock can over 5 minutes each at WM. Ok, well maybe Taker/Roman can be stretched to 10 minutes via a table bump or something, but not 20 or 30 minutes.
It was splendid, also ran into some crazy ass Canadians who reenacted the Yapapi strap match that Hogan made famous while walking to the Rumble
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Old 01-30-2017, 12:42 PM   #1163
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Old 01-30-2017, 12:47 PM   #1164
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Sounds exactly like something Meltzer would say to those who question his info.
Difference between him and me is he's trying to con people into giving him money. I'm just a dude. I gain nothing financially, just trying to spread the truth to people who are being conned.

Look at his Mania card. The whole thing is just looking at current storylines and projecting. Doesn't know Cena's match (you really think Cena doesn't have an opponent lined up at this point), listed some mystery match that he won't print because it's pretty cool and doesn't want to jeopardize it (okay Pal), and can't identify which matches are for the titles. Then if any of the card is inaccurate, he has the tried and true "plans changed" line to fall back on. The guy is a genius when it comes to working you people.
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Old 01-30-2017, 01:04 PM   #1165
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Looks to me that they haven't made their mind up for a Cena match. That's just from watching tv to. Right now it's looking like Orton but I doubt that's the way they go. Styles is about the only other guy on Smackdown on Cenas level other than Orton at the moment. I'd be down for Styles and Cena again.
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Old 01-30-2017, 01:07 PM   #1166
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Old 01-30-2017, 01:10 PM   #1167
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Old 01-30-2017, 01:14 PM   #1168
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Y'all saw the cart I see, shit was hilarious. Didnt know if they showed that on screen
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Old 01-30-2017, 01:15 PM   #1169
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Yep. All alone. Me, my wife and a group of at least 4 other friends of ours, all alone, at a table, catching up, eating Italian and having drinks with a restaurant full of other people eating Italian and having drinks.

You enjoy watching a nonsensical Raw though. Speaking of doing something alone.
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Old 01-30-2017, 01:24 PM   #1171
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I'm surprised Big E needed a cart. Seems like somebody who would actually be capable of running to the ring fairly quickly.
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Old 01-30-2017, 01:30 PM   #1172
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That's funny. Watched the Rumble. Didn't notice the carts on screen honestly.
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Old 01-30-2017, 02:07 PM   #1173
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Old 01-30-2017, 02:13 PM   #1174
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Feel the same as I have the last 3 years after the Rumble; not angry, just disappointed.

Ultimately WWE didn't promise Angle/Joe/Nakamura/Balor/etc. but at least 2 of those things were on the table at their disposal and they chose not to pull the trigger. Now, I concede there may still be plans in place to bring up Joe or bring Angle in for something big but as a moment in time the Rumble left a lot to be desired.

Rightly or wrongly fans have been conditioned to expect the Rumble to have surprise debuts/returns/legend stars in there and 2017 only gave us Dillinger (interesting if they do anything with him permanently now). Instead we got Kalisto, Crews, etc who are so low down the pecking order they can't be anything but filler, and don't have the benefit of getting the surprise pop. With Cena tying #16 you could have put Flair in there and told a little story.

The structure of the Rumble match wasn't the worst, just some of the matches being lined up off the back of it are looking a little lacklustre.

I've no interest in Bray v Orton as a title feud, or Cena v Orton again. Styles deserves a great spot on the Big Stage but a planned match against Shane isn't it (for me), we've already got "internet darling/independent sensation" vs. Authority figure over on Raw albeit with the face/heel dynamic reversed. I can't see anyone putting on a better match at Mania than Styles/Cena did last night. That was your answer to Wrestle Kingdom if they wanted one.

Taker/Reigns has the potential to be a clunky mess going by Taker's performance last night, and Braun taking a beating at the hands of Reigns during the build up will derail him too. Do we get a Braun/Corbin match off the back of his elimination? Not sure that feels Mania worthy?

Owens/Jericho has lost a lot of steam with the break up being teased twice already, and Owens is not being presented well at all. Feels very midcard compared to what's happening elsewhere, especially with Jericho not winning the Rumble. It'll be interesting to see how we get to a new #1 contender on Raw.
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Old 01-30-2017, 02:16 PM   #1175
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Old 01-30-2017, 02:17 PM   #1176
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To be fair, it would have been kinda weird to have Nakamura selling a bad knee injury at Takeover and then come out for the rumble the next night.
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I don't disagree. There was just a chance that they did that to "put us off the scent" of a debut. He could have sold the knee injury, or, not run that angle at Takeover (it's in their power after all).

It's not great from a kayfabe POV (if you do run the injury angle) but again, they had that card to play and chose not to.
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Feel the same as I have the last 3 years after the Rumble; not angry, just disappointed.

Ultimately WWE didn't promise Angle/Joe/Nakamura/Balor/etc. but at least 2 of those things were on the table at their disposal and they chose not to pull the trigger. Now, I concede there may still be plans in place to bring up Joe or bring Angle in for something big but as a moment in time the Rumble left a lot to be desired.

Rightly or wrongly fans have been conditioned to expect the Rumble to have surprise debuts/returns/legend stars in there and 2017 only gave us Dillinger (interesting if they do anything with him permanently now). Instead we got Kalisto, Crews, etc who are so low down the pecking order they can't be anything but filler, and don't have the benefit of getting the surprise pop. With Cena tying #16 you could have put Flair in there and told a little story.

The structure of the Rumble match wasn't the worst, just some of the matches being lined up off the back of it are looking a little lacklustre.

I've no interest in Bray v Orton as a title feud, or Cena v Orton again. Styles deserves a great spot on the Big Stage but a planned match against Shane isn't it (for me), we've already got "internet darling/independent sensation" vs. Authority figure over on Raw albeit with the face/heel dynamic reversed. I can't see anyone putting on a better match at Mania than Styles/Cena did last night. That was your answer to Wrestle Kingdom if they wanted one.

Taker/Reigns has the potential to be a clunky mess going by Taker's performance last night, and Braun taking a beating at the hands of Reigns during the build up will derail him too. Do we get a Braun/Corbin match off the back of his elimination? Not sure that feels Mania worthy?

Owens/Jericho has lost a lot of steam with the break up being teased twice already, and Owens is not being presented well at all. Feels very midcard compared to what's happening elsewhere, especially with Jericho not winning the Rumble. It'll be interesting to see how we get to a new #1 contender on Raw.
Been saying that for a while. I'd even be fine with Styles and Cena again at Wrestlemania.
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Old 01-30-2017, 04:41 PM   #1179
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I know it's barely happened in the last decade, but remember when mid-card feuds were setup in the Rumble? Good times.
Nowadays the middle of the Mania card is filled with the year-round Main Eventers/World Champions so the actual midcarders go into a Battle Royal so there's no point setting up midcard feuds.
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Where was Kane last night?
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I was asked exactly the same question by one of the kids at school today
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That doesn't sound like they were very interested.
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Looks to me that they haven't made their mind up for a Cena match. That's just from watching tv to. Right now it's looking like Orton but I doubt that's the way they go. Styles is about the only other guy on Smackdown on Cenas level other than Orton at the moment. I'd be down for Styles and Cena again.
From a TV perspective Cena's focus has been on proving he's still better than the new generation guys.
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You enjoy watching a nonsensical Raw though. Speaking of doing something alone.
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I don't disagree. There was just a chance that they did that to "put us off the scent" of a debut. He could have sold the knee injury, or, not run that angle at Takeover (it's in their power after all).

It's not great from a kayfabe POV (if you do run the injury angle) but again, they had that card to play and chose not to.
So because they didn't do things that make no sense based on storylines, you're disappointed? Got it.
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Old 01-30-2017, 05:55 PM   #1186
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I watches something last night that was saying Cena was working the match as heel.
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I watches something last night that was saying Cena was working the match as heel.
Yeah the way certain parts of the match flowed did make it seem Cena was in the heel role but any idea of teasing a real turn got squashed with the Make A Wish moment after the match.
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From a TV perspective Cena's focus has been on proving he's still better than the new generation guys.
Yet he wins the title and is now set to face an old foe in Randy Orton if he keeps it.
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So because they didn't do things that make no sense based on storylines, you're disappointed? Got it.
Well no, not at all.

Firstly Nakamura was one example of one of the elements that I found disappointing; specifically that they had a number of cards they chose not to play.

Secondly, that wasn't my original point (Nak debuting the night after a storyline injury =/= me being disappointed) but a response to something somebody else said in reply to my original point (which I clearly stated they didn't need to run that angle and thus it would have made sense).

Comprehension is your friend.
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Old 01-30-2017, 06:31 PM   #1190
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In one of those "WWE Did You Know" type facts, this was the first Rumble where the WWE didn't bother to get any creative input from Pat Paterson for the match itself according to the LAW podcast.

Also Reigns currently has the streak of being in the Final Three for the last 4 Rumbles in a row. Probably a safe bet he will make it 5 years in a row if he's not champ after the Universal title match based on the rumor of WWE still has two Manias left for his mega star push.
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Old 01-30-2017, 07:42 PM   #1192
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Where was American Alpha? Tag champs usually are a given in a match like this.
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Yet he wins the title and is now set to face an old foe in Randy Orton if he keeps it.
Thus proving his claims to be legit
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Old 01-30-2017, 07:59 PM   #1194
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Well no, not at all.

Firstly Nakamura was one example of one of the elements that I found disappointing; specifically that they had a number of cards they chose not to play.

Secondly, that wasn't my original point (Nak debuting the night after a storyline injury =/= me being disappointed) but a response to something somebody else said in reply to my original point (which I clearly stated they didn't need to run that angle and thus it would have made sense).

Comprehension is your friend.
But your entire list also made no sense.. maybe Joe if he's to be involved at Mania, but if his program is with Cena, and Cena was going over Styles, what purpose would it serve to lump Joe in a crowded field of stars? Why not debut him when he can be the focal point?
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Where was American Alpha? Tag champs usually are a given in a match like this.
WWE didn't have plans for them nor most of Smackdown for the Rumble match. Supposedly WWE didn't make up their mind for who the surprise entrants would be till the event itself according to the sheets.

Think PWI mentioned the Alphas asking if they were going to be in the match only to be told "wait and see."
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I figured it was due to his knee surgeries. (seriously, he has very long scars on both of his knees. I didn't notice until the Vudu commercial.)

That said, they could have done better:

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WWE didn't have plans for them nor most of Smackdown for the Rumble match. Supposedly WWE didn't make up their mind for who the surprise entrants would be till the event itself according to the sheets.

Think PWI mentioned the Alphas asking if they were going to be in the match only to be told "wait and see."
Classic sheets.

The WWE didn't decide on the surprise entrants until the show. So Vince was planning to show up at the arena and go "bring me MVP". Sure Pal.
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Pretty much considering they had all of RAW, Smackdown, Cruisers/205 Live, and a good chunk of NXT guys backstage to pick from.

Been like that for the past few years where the non-Legends surprises get picked right before the event itself if the entire list wasn't finished in time.
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Part of my fondness for the Rumble is seeing legends come out. Wish there were more guys getting a one off appearance.
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