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Old 06-27-2007, 07:26 PM   #1
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Frankly, this whole thing is fucked up.

But I'm really starting to think that the issue might very well have been the domestic dispute about Daniel, something that dragged him down over the past few months or years. Something he didn't share with anyone else outside of the family. Something that pushed him over the edge on Friday/Saturday night.
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While Edge and Batista had their "Do or Die" match Sunday at the PPV, Benoit and his family were having their own "Do or Die" match.









SPOILER: It ended in a draw






Yeah yeah I'm an asshole, I'm gonna rot in hell, etc.
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Old 06-27-2007, 07:48 PM   #3
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Im thinking the stress of coping with his child/wwe got too much.
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O'Reilly is all about wrestling deaths right now btw.

Interesting comment about Superfly causing the death of someone on the road and beating up women regularly.

He a sick fuck too?
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Fuck O'reilly.
Indeed, but it wasn't him that said it. It was some wrestling historian.

O'Reilly was shouting about Benoit 'injecting his son with something'....that been confirmed, I may have missed it?
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Yeah cause wrestlers are the lowest form of human beings around.
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Yeah cause wrestlers are the lowest form of human beings around.
Big bad Bill said 'you have to be twisted to be a wrestler' or something very similar.
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It seems now that the major area of contention has changed from "Do you really think he did it?/Let's hope he didn't do it/Here's hoping there's more to this than meets the eye" to "Do you still respect his legacy/career?"

The way I see it is like this...

I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone of the belief that Harold Shipman was a damn fine doctor before he killed those 215 people.

Or that Fred West was a great labourer/father before he killed those 12 girls/raped his own daughter.

My point kinda follows on from where Corky left off. Shipman and West were not known to the world until these heinous crimes were revealed where as Benoit was. I guess that's their great difference. I guess their similarity comes in the fact that all 3 men commited suicide before justice was served (Shipman commited suicide in prison)

What Benoit did over the weekend has eclipsed his career. As a bare minimum it has greatly tainted it.

As much as I could still watch a Benoit match and see the briliance of the guy, I'd always be thinking about what he did. Quite simply I don't wanna be thinking about it, so I'll be finding it difficult to watch anything with Benoit in it. Ever.
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:42 PM   #12
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If you read Jillian Hall's blog she has become the 1st WWE superstar to speak out against Benoit.She said she is 100% behind Vince erasing all of Benoit's tributes and said that what he did is completely disgusting and unforgiveable.Though she did mention that Benoit was always nice to her.
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ROFL I'm watching Headline News right now with this Nacy Grace talking to Bret Hart and asked him if "being demoted from the 4 Horsemen group to Raw had anything to do with the murder."

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ROFL I'm watching Headline News right now with this Nacy Grace talking to Bret Hart and ask her if "being demoted from the 4 Horsemen group to Raw had anything to do with the murder."
lol yeah I watched that to.
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ROFL I'm watching Headline News right now with this Nacy Grace talking to Bret Hart and asked him if "being demoted from the 4 Horsemen group to Raw had anything to do with the murder."
Lmao, what was Brets reaction to that??
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Lmao, what was Brets reaction to that??
Just basically how Benoit loved and had a very strong passion for the business.
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This wasn't Roid Rage, people who do something in an act of rage do somethin in a quick timely fashion.
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This wasn't Roid Rage, people who do something in an act of rage do somethin in a quick timely fashion.
B..b..b..but he's a wrestler and wrestlers use steroids and steroids causes roid rage. And since a wrestler commited murder and then killed himself, it must've been because of steroids!

Cause you know a wrestler who commits an act like this can't just be fucked in the head and had to be caused by drugs.
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This wasn't Roid Rage, people who do something in an act of rage do somethin in a quick timely fashion.
Maybe he was one of those procrastinating roid ragers.
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Not only was Chris Benoit a topic on Pardon the Interruption on ESPN... IT WAS THE LEAD STORY!!! They debated whether or not steroids should be regulated in pro wrestling. Around the Horn prior to PTI had Benoit in their "Out of Bounds" topic debating how the Benoit tragedy reflects on the WWE and talking about the steroids. I hear that ITunes has the ATH and PTI podcasts(all Itunes podcasts are free.) if you wanna watch. ATH the topic is midway or so in on PTI its about 2 minutes in.
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Old 06-27-2007, 09:14 PM   #21
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Even Bret has been defending Vince and the WWE, as far as the steriods and it contributing to the deaths.
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Old 06-27-2007, 09:27 PM   #22
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Wow O'Reilly was blaming Nancy for even being with Chris, basically blaming her for her own death.
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It's Bill O'Reilly, what can you expect, nobody listens to him.
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Neither jusitfying nor condoning what happened, I have to question whether the first death was intentional. The timeline of events almost indicate like this was malicious and planned out, but if he went to the doctors the same day for a prescription, logic would say that he didn't have any intention of dying.

Also, Nancy's arms and legs being bound is bizarre as well - if it was a murder done with the knowledge of murder, or even in the heat of the murder, the priority wouldn't be to restrain, it would be to go straight to choke her. And if it was done afterwards, then it makes no sense and serves no purpose.

Then again, none of this makes any sense. I guess part of me just wants this not to be as ugly as it appears. Ultimately, it doesn't matter.
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WWE has removed EVERYTHING Benoit from their site, Even on DVD descripitons.

On the WM 20 DVD it says

Triple H defends the WHC against Shawn Michaels

Tons and Tons of stores has removed the Benoit DVD. I bet that it will be a collectable DVD to own
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:13 PM   #29
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Just read this article over at 1wrestling

http://www.1wrestling.com/news/newsline.asp?news=29057

Now i have to ask is this guy for real,there was innocence still left in wrestling??.
And to claim it as a victim is outright laughable,only in a world this messed up can one man's actions be used in such a way.
The industry with some innocence chews people up and spits them out on a daily basis,Maybe if the industry actually acted like a family as it keeps referring to this may have been averted.
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On the WM 20 DVD it says

Triple H defends the WHC against Shawn Michaels

Tons and Tons of stores has removed the Benoit DVD. I bet that it will be a collectable DVD to own
I'm wondering how long before we see another Benoit match on a DVD release. Would they edit out matches with Benoit in say the SummerSlam sets? And eventually you're going to run into wrestlers who had a match that deserves to be on their set with Benoit.
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Yeah... that'll be tricky. I don't think they should just erase him from everything, to the point of affecting others. Maybe the most I'd advocate is removing his name from the listings, but not actually editing the matches. It'd be sort of stupid if he was like blurred out while applying a crossface to the main homage wrestler of a DVD or something.
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Yeah... that'll be tricky. I don't think they should just erase him from everything, to the point of affecting others. Maybe the most I'd advocate is removing his name from the listings, but not actually editing the matches. It'd be sort of stupid if he was like blurred out while applying a crossface to the main homage wrestler of a DVD or something.


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Old 06-27-2007, 11:31 PM   #33
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Boy, the 2004 Royal Rumble would have been a hell of a blurring job.
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:33 PM   #34
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The next WWE DVD's come out Aug 7th (Austin and WCCW) and while Benoit had nothing to do with WCCW a match of his against Austin might be on Stone Colds so you wonder if WWE would delay the release. Benoit is also featured frequently on the ''Do Not Try This at Home'' segments that precede a WWE DVD.
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No clue on future releases. Benoit ME Summerslam 04 against Orton and if Orton ever gets a DVD that and his Foley match are his 2 biggest matches to date and it would have to make the DVD.
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On the Backlash 04 DVD he is on the cover by himself
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"Bret Hart appeared on Nancy Grace, although no new information was revealed during the program. In fact, Grace seemed to be ill-informed, at one point talking about Benoit suffering a "demotion" from the Four Horsemen to Raw."

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"Bret Hart appeared on Nancy Grace, although no new information was revealed during the program. In fact, Grace seemed to be ill-informed, at one point talking about Benoit suffering a "demotion" from the Four Horsemen to Raw."

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Someone get a clip, there is no WAY she said that
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Nancy Grace is out of touch on so many topics she tries to cover.
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Yeah a lot of this Media coverage is terrible.

I know people view wrestling as a total joke and a waste of time which it might be, but c'mon at least do some research.
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