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Old 04-11-2012, 08:19 PM   #1
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Hines Ward is such a tough guy. Reminds me of all the tough guys of yesteryear. Did you guys know he is also part Asian?
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Keith rivers, traded? Meh...T-Newman sighs with the bengals? Meh. We better get some draft day gems
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Old 04-11-2012, 11:26 PM   #4
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I remember there being a big fuss here about if the Bengals should draft Terence Newman with the #1 pick back in the day. They ended up with Palmer so that's cool. Dunno who else was in that draft. LEMME CZECH
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Andre Johnson, Terrell Suggs, Troy Polamalu were all 1st rounders

so were Charles Rogers, Byron Leftwich, and Kyle Boller
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Andre Johnson, Terrell Suggs, Troy Polamalu were all 1st rounders

so were Charles Rogers, Byron Leftwich, and Kyle Boller
Carson was totally the proper choice. It's just too bad that he had to deal with that cancer, chad johnson
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Byron Leftwich
Ugh, can't believe that sack of shit has 2 Super Bowl rings and MoJo has none. Sickens me to no end.
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:00 AM   #10
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Does it really?
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Yes it does. Leftwich is garbage. Complete and utter garbage.
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:19 AM   #12
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Does this mean Byron Leftwich is a better QB than Peyton Manning?

Krimzon, your thoughts please.
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:48 PM   #13
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Does this mean Byron Leftwich is a better QB than Peyton Manning?

Krimzon, your thoughts please.
No, stats and reg season wins make you good, championships make you great. Byron Leftwich rode the bench to the titles, he didn't lead a team to the title.

He really has two titles???



He's prob better than Peyton anyway.
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:34 AM   #14
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No, stats and reg season wins make you good, championships make you great. Byron Leftwich rode the bench to the titles, he didn't lead a team to the title.

He really has two titles???



He's prob better than Peyton anyway.
Just one but had the chance to have 2 rings if the Steelers had beaten the Packers the previous year.
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Ha, hell no. Leftwich may have more Super Bowl rings, but it by far does not make him a better QB. He just happens to have a knack for being picked up by teams who win the Super Bowl. I think he played in 1 game the year the Steelers won the SB.
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Does he even have two? I thought he only had one
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Does he even have two? I thought he only had one
Could have sworn he won one with Pittsburgh and one with Tampa Bay. Let me check.
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:25 PM   #19
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Ok, I was wrong. He has one SB ring. Steelers back in 2008.
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He wasn't even in the NFL when the Bucs won the Super Bowl
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OK so he is as good as Peyton Manning, but not better.

But he is definitely as good as Peyton Manning.
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OK so he is as good as Peyton Manning, but not better.

But he is definitely as good as Peyton Manning.
I'd put him on the level with Jamarcus Russell and Blaine Gabbert at this point, only with 1 ring.
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Joe Vitt set to be the Saints interim coach for next season but he won't have the job for the first 6 games due to his suspension. Aaron Kromer will take over for the first six games then return as the team's o-line coach.

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Joe Vitt set to be the Saints interim coach for next season but he won't have the job for the first 6 games due to his suspension. Aaron Kromer will take over for the first six games then return as the team's o-line coach.

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Vitt and Kromer won't "take" the job from Payton, if the Saints do really well next season.. Well, they are less likely than Pete Carmicheal or Spags, who both have HC credentials.. That was kinda the reason Payton wanted the Tuna.. I don't think Benson (owner) will get rid of Payton regardless of what happens this year, but I can see Payton's concern..
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So I'm really hoping now that the Rams really take Trent Richardson with the #6 pick so the Jags can snag Blackmon at #7. My only concern is, I have no fucking clue who the Browns are going to draft at #4.
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So I'm really hoping now that the Rams really take Trent Richardson with the #6 pick so the Jags can snag Blackmon at #7. My only concern is, I have no fucking clue who the Browns are going to draft at #4.
Richardson will be gone.. He'll go to the Browns or the Bucs, mos def..
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Richardson will be gone.. He'll go to the Browns or the Bucs, mos def..
That 4 through 6 spot is interesting. For whatever reason, people think Ryan Tannehill is a top 5 pick. I could see the Browns wasting their pick on him and the Bucs picking up Claiborne. Dude is dumb as hell, but a beast at Corner.

Don't get me wrong, I think Tannehill can be a good QB, but he's a guy who could benefit from sitting for 3 or 4 seasons before starting. Instead, he'll get ruined because the Browns or Dolphins will have him starting mid-year if not sooner and he'll end up fading away.
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You can't base Claiborne's football intelligence on the Wonderlick.. He played at a high level, for multiple years, for a top 3 defense, in the SEC and succeeded.. He'll do just fine at the pro level..

Vito, I thought the same thing but Greeny has changed my mind over the past few days.. His reason is exactly the reason you say not to draft him.. This day in age, RB's get used up in their first few years, so the draft is really the only way to get an "elite" RB, without having to pay them a HUGE contract, with the new rookie salary limit.. Draft a RB high, run him for 4 years and then trade him..
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You can't base Claiborne's football intelligence on the Wonderlick.. He played at a high level, for multiple years, for a top 3 defense, in the SEC and succeeded.. He'll do just fine at the pro level.
He is a DB right? If anything, there was a study that showed that DBs and TEs had a tendency to perform better with lower Wonderlic scores.
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At this point I don't know if I could justify a top 10 pick for any running back no matter how good they seem to be. Sure you could get a couple of beast years out of him, but then he'll demand a huge contract before long and you'll wind up screwed in the long run. RBs just don't last that long.
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That's true about backs. I think Richardson is one of those backs that can be a game changer instantly though. Plus, the new rookie contacts have mandatory four year deals with a team option on the fifth. By the time dude plays out his rookie deal, the team likely would have gotten his best years anyway.
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Tannehill will be a bust. So will Coples, god I hope the Cowboys dont draft him.
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