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Old 10-08-2005, 09:53 AM   #1281
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Leeds = bollocks and in the shitter.
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Chelsea=Defensive but succesful.

Greece=Defensive but succesful.

I thought it was obvious?
How is that obvious you big wanker?
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How is that obvious you big wanker?

I feel so hurt..you called me a big wanker..

..but seriously, you must be dumb not to see that it was a joke.
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ahahaha fuck just passing time before I watch the Greece game.
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Why does the england game kick off so late?
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Northern Ireland 2-2 Wales. Come on Ireland.
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LOL Wales.
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Old 10-08-2005, 02:14 PM   #1293
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Northern Ireland 2-2 Wales. Come on Ireland.
Yes, 2-3. Our first competitive win for like 2 and a half years.
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Damn.

But England were really lucky to get that penalty.

I actually think they didn't deserve it, and I'm not saying that because I'm Scottish, but because all that Owen did was stumble to his knees.

There was no need for a penalty.

But I'm happy that Scotland got as far as they did. Walter Smith has done some great things to the team.
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But I'm happy that Scotland got as far as they did. Walter Smith has done some great things to the team.
Now all he needs to do is get rid of the crab that is Barry Ferguson. I really hope Quashie was injured, because if he wasn't then it's an absolute disgrace that he wasn't in the team.
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Old 10-08-2005, 04:44 PM   #1296
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Well Holland have beaten the Czech's so England have qualified.

But of course Sven will still have to go. Still, the football today was quite terrible, too many high balls up to Crouch and he didn't win as many as he probably should.
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Well just how shit do you have to be for your keeper to be Man Of The Match against Cyprus ffs. Terrible. We don't deserve to go through at all but heres hoping anyway
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@ our result. Ah well, let's hope Australia can pull something out of their arses and make the World Cup, lol
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But England were really lucky to get that penalty.

I actually think they didn't deserve it, and I'm not saying that because I'm Scottish, but because all that Owen did was stumble to his knees.

There was no need for a penalty.
As in, what?

It was a foul. It was inside the penalty area. If a foul is committed inside the penalty area, it is a penalty.
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Old 10-09-2005, 08:49 AM   #1303
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The penalty was soft in the sense that that kind of thing usually happens and if penalties are awarded for that then they'd be like 5 given each game. Depends which way you look at it though, if refs are clamping down on that then it should have been given and players would cut it out, but it's making it less physical, so i can see it both ways.

The one which wasn't given was clear-cut though.
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Find me a ref that wouldn't give that though. In my league we've had some absolutely terrible refs and I'm confident that every last one of them would have given a penalty for that
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Well slap me on a hook and call me bait. Australia actually played fucking well in one of their international games. Granted we were only playing Jamaica and it was a friendly, but for once we actually played quite well and we well deserved the 5-0 scoreline. It pisses me off big time that Farina was not sacked earlier so Hiddick would have more time to work with the players, cos at the moment he is doing a fantastic job.

Gentlemen, the last round of South American qualifiers are on Wednesday. As it stands atm:

TeamPWDLFAPts
Argentina16943271631
Brazil16862311630
Paraguay17845232228
Ecuador17836231927
Uruguay
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Colombia17566231621
Chile17566182221
Venezuela17539202518
Peru16367162515
Bolivia164111183213


The dirty Uruguayan cunts are in 5th place at the moment, but Colombia and Chile still have a chance to finish 5th and ensure a play-off against Australia in November. Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay and Ecuador have all qualified already.

These are the games remaining in the qualifiers

9 October 2005
ArgentinavPeru19:10
BoliviavBrazil16:00

12 October 2005
BrazilvVenezuela21:30
ChilevEcuador20:30
ParaguayvColombia20:30
PeruvBolivia20:00
UruguayvArgentina21:30


I think Chile will beat Ecuador, Columbia will get a draw against Paraguay and Uruguay will draw with Argentina, meaning we'll be playing Chile, but fuck knows what will happen, cos all three teams gunning for 5th place are playing teams that have already qualified.
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Who are we hoping for? I remember you said there was a decent Chilean community here, so here's to hoping we don't get them.

Would be nice though to get Colombia then win thanks to an own goal and see whatshisface get executed though [/blatant ripoff of posts from another forum]
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Mark Viduka, Marco Bresciano and Jason Culina were excellent against Jamaica.

Well I dunno who I want. Let's look at the 3 opponents we might get

Uruguay

Pros: We've played them before and we will know their stengths and weaknesses a bit better than the other two countries. We have also beaten them before (1-0 in Melbourne) so we know we can beat them.

Cons: They'll also know our strengths and weaknesses, plus they beat us overall last time to qualify, with the 3-0 in Montevideo ( ) so they could have a mental advantage over us.

Chile

Pros: Would be more suited to us

Cons: A very tricky team that can go awol if it wants to. Plus, a large Chilian population in Australia. We don't want a farcical situation like we had when Turkey visited here, with nearly half the ground supporting Turkey. Having said that, I think only 500 or so tickets will be allocated for away fans in Sydney, so we shouldn't have that problem.

Columbia

Pros: 'Easier' opponent (although they're all difficult), we probably have a very good chance to put a few past them in Sydney.

Cons: High altitude...will be an absolute cunt to have to travel there for the away leg.

They're all gonna be difficult - especially the away legs - but I think overall it will be better to play Chile. I'm just fucking rapt we have the away leg first so we can go there, hopefully steal a draw, then get the fuck out of there, come home and just gun it for a result.

Let's see what happens Wednesday
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As in, what?

It was a foul. It was inside the penalty area. If a foul is committed inside the penalty area, it is a penalty.
From this site: http://www.webindia123.com/sports/football/fouls.htm

When a player of the defending side intentionally commit one of the offences below, within the penalty area he is penalized by a penalty kick.

1. kicking or attempting to kick an opponent

2. tripping an opponents, i.e. throwing or attempting to throw him by using legs or by stopping in front or behind him

3. jumping at an opponent

4. charging an opponent in a violent or dangerous manner

5. charging an opponent from behind unless the latter obstructing him

6. striking or attempting to strike an opponent

7. holding an opponent

8. pushing an opponent

9. handling the ball, i.e. carrying, striking or propelling the ball with his hand or arm; are penalized by the award of an indirect free kick. It is to be taken by the opposing side from the place where the offence is committed.

Do you see "When the player stumbles to his knees"?
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tbh Colombia are probably Australia's best bet, they've looked pretty average whenever I've seen them the last couple years. I dunno about Chile they used to be good but the star players I knew of (i.e. Salas) are pretty much done now, I don't know what the new generation is like. Uruguay are always unpredictable and still have guys like Recoba and Forlan, so you can never count them out.
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He never held him.

Owen had the ball and then he stumbled to his knees.

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He did hold him, he quite clearly had hold of his arm while he was trying to run away from him.
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Here's the video.

Go to 00:26 on the video and you'll see that Owen just stumbles to his knees.

The Owen "Entanglement"
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that video shows him pulling his arm
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its soft, don't get me wrong and i wouldn't blame him for not giving it but he clearly does have hold of him. He doesn't just stumble.
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Look at his arms. Clear cut holding
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its soft, don't get me wrong and i wouldn't blame him for not giving it but he clearly does have hold of him. He doesn't just stumble.
I don't see it.

Can someone get me a screen cap of it?
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look at Owen's left arm, nothing else, just watch his left arm from 0:26-0:29
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look at Owen's left arm, nothing else, just watch his left arm from 0:26-0:29
You guys call that a foul!?

It looks like Owen was trying to keep him away but he got his arm tangled, so it's his own fault.

I still think England we lucky to have gotten that penalty.

Plus it didn't help with that other guy running in front, ruining the view.
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