NFL 2008-2009 Season Thread - Page 33

**Shadow** · 10-07-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus

I think that's the first time I've ever pos repped you..

I think you've done it a time or two before. But in this instance, I have to agree with you on this guy. He is a terrible offical. He's basically handing games to teams that shouldn't be winning. The fact that he blew a facemask and nobody called him on it (boo on the Saints coach) is attroucious. Officals should not be doing this to damn good teams. And you know something, the Saints are a damn good team. I may bleed burgandy and white, but even I can see when a team deserves more then what happened last night.

**Gonzo** · 10-07-2008, 02:29 PM

I always thought Ed Hochuli was largely considered one of the better head officials, along with Mike Carey, in the NFL. Dunno whats going on there.

**Shadow** · 10-07-2008, 02:30 PM

Maybe he just got retarded in his old age. i dunno.

**Kris P Lettus** · 10-07-2008, 02:32 PM

Can't challenge the fumble on a non-call, Shadow.. Like, Reggie did fumble the ball, the fact that they didn't call the facemask can't be challenged..

I always liked Hochuli, but this year he is sucking it up pretty bad..

**Shadow** · 10-07-2008, 02:35 PM

Ahhh...I knew there was a reason for that. I didn't actually see the game but I did see some highlights of the first half and it's just....yeah.

Hochuli needs some retraining and fast otherwise he's gonna be reciving more death threats and someone might be stupid enough to follow up on 'em.

**Kris P Lettus** · 10-07-2008, 02:55 PM

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Porter has surger to repair wrist
1:32 PM Tue, Oct 07, 2008 | Permalink
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METAIRIE - Saints rookie cornerback Tracy Porter had surgery to repair a dislocated wrist, New Orleans head coach Sean Payton said Tuesday.

Porter injured his wrist in coverage when the Vikings completed a touchdown pass to Bernard Berrian on third-and-16 at the New Orleans 33. Porter got up slowly and had to be helped off the field after the play.

"We'll be able to have announcement about it soon in regard to the time frame," Payton said. "Right now I don't want speculate, but I do know the procedure went well."

Payton wouldn't say if the injury is the type that a player can come back from during the season, but didn't sound too positive when pushed about the subject.

"We'll see," Payton said. "His required surgery to get it back in place which was not good."

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Porter was becoming a def shutdown corner.. Now TOAST gets some play time..

Fuck this stupid fucking injury bug we seem to have this year..

FUCK

**Gonzo** · 10-07-2008, 03:04 PM

Happens every year man. Some teams just get hit. I fucking hate it though because an otherwise good team starts to fall.

Back to the subject of referees; I don't remember what the head official was of the Seahawks/Giants game yesterday but they were calling the game very tight in the secondary in the first half especially. Everything was getting called, pass interference, holding in the secondary, illegal contact. Some of the calls were very petty and didn't affect the play too much. That went for both teams, some got called on the Hawks, some on the Giants. They lightened up in the second half but for the first half I was just, "What the fuck?"

**Shadow** · 10-07-2008, 03:14 PM

It seems to me anyways that in recent years officals are getting really super tight with the calls. And the fact that they've brought out some rules that I've never heard of before that just baffle me. I mean, I know that these rules have always been there but...I just never heard of 'em. Course, just cause I've never heard of them doesn't mean they shouldn't be enforced.

**Gonzo** · 10-07-2008, 03:16 PM

Everything goes in cycles. For years they will strictly enforce calls in the secondary, then for years they will favor defenders instead. I think it all really just depends on who is on the competition committee and what they push for.

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 10-07-2008, 03:18 PM

Can't wait for Roxer to be all "I TOLD YOU SO" when the Cards make the playoffs with like a 6-10 record

**Kris P Lettus** · 10-07-2008, 03:18 PM

List of Saints injuries so far (atleast one game missed):

-RB Deuce McAllister
-RB Aarron Stecker
-WR Marques Colston
-WR David Patten
-WR Terrance Copper
-WR Adrian Arrington
-TE Jeremy Shockey
-TE Mark Campbell
-LB Scott "Steak" Fujita
-SS Roman Harper
-DT Sed Ellis
-DT Big Fat Hollis Thomas
-DT Brian Young
-CB Mike McKenzie
-CB Randal Gay
-CB Usama Young

And now CB Tracy Porter may be out for the season..

Also, dumbass Jarhi Evans got popped for steroids so he is missing 4 games as well..

FUCK FUCK FUCK

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 10-07-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SammyG

Klopfenstein and Byrd. Byrd was released, because of off field issues, basically he was a thug douchebag. Klopfenstein had a great year his rookie year and then forgot how to play football.

Not like he needs to know that to play for the Rams

**Kris P Lettus** · 10-07-2008, 03:24 PM

Here is Ed Hochuli's contact info, just incase he fucks your team like he did mine..

http://www.jshfirm.com/custom.cfm?na...etail.cfm&id=7

That's the law firm he works for..

ehochuli@jshfirm.com

Email..

2901 N. Central Ave.
Suite 800
Phoenix, Arizona 85012
Phone: 602-263-1700
Fax: 602-263-1784

Office addy and phone numbers..

:foc:

**SammyG** · 10-07-2008, 05:15 PM

Shut up Krispy, my team dealt with injuries all of last year, deal with it. Good teams overcome them, as many as they are. Not saying the Rams are a good team, because we are terrible. But yeah.

**UmbrellaCorporation** · 10-07-2008, 05:36 PM

Saints got jewed last night.

**Kris P Lettus** · 10-07-2008, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SammyG

Shut up Krispy, my team dealt with injuries all of last year, deal with it. Good teams overcome them, as many as they are. Not saying the Rams are a good team, because we are terrible. But yeah.

STFU

Never in my whole life have the Saints been so good and had this many injuries to key players..

On top of that, we did get Jewed last night..

**Y2Ant** · 10-07-2008, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

are you Bion something Dance someshitelse?

Yeah that's me. Enjoy your victory, for it will be your last.

**Y2Ant** · 10-07-2008, 06:16 PM

You got raped by a giant purple penis. That's what you got.

**Kris P Lettus** · 10-07-2008, 07:47 PM

Tracy Porter is out for the season..

GREAT

**Gonzo** · 10-07-2008, 09:52 PM

Man, I fucking hate injury bugs. I remember a few years back the Giants snuck into the playoffs but they were so decimated by injuries at that point they had no chance. Carolina blew them up. I think that the Giants had 1 LB that they began the season with. One of the guys playing LB had been signed that week, and the other guy was like two weeks before that. Antonio Pierce was the only healthy LB.

**Hanso Amore** · 10-07-2008, 10:52 PM

Yeah, the bills had 12 guys on the IR last year, they ended up fielding some REAL scrubs.

**Kris P Lettus** · 10-08-2008, 11:29 AM

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It looks like Aberdeen native Taylor Mehlhaff is going to get another shot at kicking with the New Orleans Saints.

The Saints aren't happy with the performance of veteran Martin Gramatica, who missed a potential game winning field late in Monday night's loss to the Vikings. So they are interested in re-signing Mehlhaff, the rookie they cut at the end of training camp after picking him in the 6th round of the NFL Draft last spring.

Taylor, who's been at the University of Wisconsin working out, will fly out to New Orleans Wednesday. There were some flight delays in Madison Tuesday night.

He's expected to get an offer from the Saints and he could very well be New Orleans starting kicker, when the Saints host the Raiders on Sunday.

I wanted us to keep him over Gramatica anyway.. He has pretty much the same accuracy but alot more power for longer FGs and kickoffs.. I also thought it was a wasted draft pick, to get him just for camp compitition..

**Kris P Lettus** · 10-08-2008, 12:10 PM

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The Saints couldn't do anything about an obvious facemask penalty the refs missed in Monday night's game against the Vikings -- that's not a challenge-able infraction. So they did the next best thing -- feature a picture of the blown call on the front page of their Web site. From ProFootballTalk.com:

With no mention of the fact that a penalty flag wasn’t thrown, the Saints have pasted on their official web site a photo of Vikings linebacker Chad Greenway grabbing the mask of Saints running back Reggie Bush.

To follow up, Los Angeles Times reporter Sam Farmer called the Saints for an explanation. From the L.A. Times:

I called the Saints about it this morning, and they said it was the highest-resolution shot they had of Bush, who returned two punts for touchdowns in the 30-27 loss.

After having the picture on the front page of their Web site, under the Multimedia tab, for most of the day, the Saints have finally taken it down and replaced it with a different image of Reggie Bush.

• Saints Call Attention To Blown Call (ProFootballTalk.com)

• Check out this hanging Chad (Los Angeles Times)

• New Orleans Saints official Web site (NewOrleansSaints.com)

God, I love my team..

**Kris P Lettus** · 10-08-2008, 02:16 PM

Gramatica placed on IR, Mehlhaff is now the Saints starting kicker..

**Evil Vito** · 10-08-2008, 02:30 PM

I really wonder what the Giants are gonna do about their kicking situation. Carney has been perfect so far in FGs and XPs...but he's proven to be terrible at kickoffs. Meanwhile, Tynes seems ready to go and IIRC he at least could get some distance on his kickoffs.

Factor that in with the fact that David Tyree is eligible to come off the PUP list after next week...cutting one of the kickers would be the optimum way of getting him on the roster. They really don't even need him and so they could IR him for the rest of the year, but if the guy is healthy and ready to play the ethical thing to to do would be to cut him and let another team pick him up. But it would be depressing as hell to see the Super Bowl hero get cut.

**SammyG** · 10-08-2008, 02:45 PM

Josh Brown

**Big Fat Mike** · 10-08-2008, 03:04 PM

Tynes wasn't exactly the biggest leg in the league before he got hurt.

**SammyG** · 10-08-2008, 05:06 PM

3rd Tynes the charm.

**Kris P Lettus** · 10-08-2008, 05:23 PM

NY Tynes

**Shadow** · 10-08-2008, 06:13 PM

Good on the Saints. Maybe now the league will start reviewing their officals a bit more tightly. Not that all of them are bad mind you. Just that some of them are calling shit that doesn't happen or just not calling stuff that they're supposed to call.

**Gonzo** · 10-08-2008, 06:53 PM

On that play (the facemask in the Saints game) was Hochuli in position to see and call the foul? If not, I don't see how you can blame him.

**Big Fat Mike** · 10-08-2008, 08:47 PM

The defender was hanging off of the facemask, and you could see Bush's head kind of jerk toward the defender. I don't care where you are on the field, you have to throw a flag on that play.

Coming from a Giants fan, btw.

I'm preying that Hochuli doesn't work any Giants games this year.

**Gonzo** · 10-08-2008, 08:54 PM

Hochuli really isn't a bad referee. Of course you can't argue with the call in the SD/Denver game but besides that the guy is one of the top crews. Can someone who watched the Saints game say with 100% certainty that Hochuli was in position himself to make the facemask call? It falls on one of the other officials in that case.

**ClockShot** · 10-08-2008, 09:19 PM

Tony Scheffler and Selvin Young out Sunday against the Jags.

Damn, gonna be a tough game with two of our best weapons out.

On the flip side, the fucker who shot Darrent Williams back in '07 got indicted.

**Shadow** · 10-08-2008, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo

On that play (the facemask in the Saints game) was Hochuli in position to see and call the foul? If not, I don't see how you can blame him.

No but I can blame the line judge who's supposed to also be able to throw flags on penilties.

**Big Fat Mike** · 10-08-2008, 09:24 PM

We're saying his entire crew is horrible. Granted, I wouldn't be able to make many right calls if I were in his position, but come on, you are a professional. Millions of people depend on you to make them happy in their otherwise dull, meaningless lives. Get it right for our sake, ok Ed?

**SammyG** · 10-09-2008, 02:36 AM

The Broncos are making the Superbowl

**DaveBrawl** · 10-09-2008, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SammyG

The Broncos are making the Superbowl

If only that were true.

**Y2Ant** · 10-09-2008, 10:28 AM

Haha the Saints still lost.

**Kris P Lettus** · 10-09-2008, 10:34 AM

If you feel good barely beating a team that is missing 7 starters and got raped several times by the officiating crew, have at it..

Just remember, out horrible defense shut down the only superstar yall have, keeping AP to like 30 total yards..

10-07-2008, 02:29 PM	#1282
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	I always thought Ed Hochuli was largely considered one of the better head officials, along with Mike Carey, in the NFL. Dunno whats going on there.

10-07-2008, 02:30 PM	#1283
Shadow Shadow Conspircy leader Posts: 18,582	Maybe he just got retarded in his old age. i dunno.

10-07-2008, 02:32 PM	#1284
Kris P Lettus Listen to Killer Mike Posts: 56,741	Can't challenge the fumble on a non-call, Shadow.. Like, Reggie did fumble the ball, the fact that they didn't call the facemask can't be challenged.. I always liked Hochuli, but this year he is sucking it up pretty bad..

10-07-2008, 02:35 PM	#1285
Shadow Shadow Conspircy leader Posts: 18,582	Ahhh...I knew there was a reason for that. I didn't actually see the game but I did see some highlights of the first half and it's just....yeah. Hochuli needs some retraining and fast otherwise he's gonna be reciving more death threats and someone might be stupid enough to follow up on 'em.

10-07-2008, 03:04 PM	#1287
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	Happens every year man. Some teams just get hit. I fucking hate it though because an otherwise good team starts to fall. Back to the subject of referees; I don't remember what the head official was of the Seahawks/Giants game yesterday but they were calling the game very tight in the secondary in the first half especially. Everything was getting called, pass interference, holding in the secondary, illegal contact. Some of the calls were very petty and didn't affect the play too much. That went for both teams, some got called on the Hawks, some on the Giants. They lightened up in the second half but for the first half I was just, "What the fuck?"

10-07-2008, 03:14 PM	#1288
Shadow Shadow Conspircy leader Posts: 18,582	It seems to me anyways that in recent years officals are getting really super tight with the calls. And the fact that they've brought out some rules that I've never heard of before that just baffle me. I mean, I know that these rules have always been there but...I just never heard of 'em. Course, just cause I've never heard of them doesn't mean they shouldn't be enforced.

10-07-2008, 03:16 PM	#1289
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	Everything goes in cycles. For years they will strictly enforce calls in the secondary, then for years they will favor defenders instead. I think it all really just depends on who is on the competition committee and what they push for.

10-07-2008, 03:18 PM	#1290
Mr. Monday Morning All Part Of The Plan Posts: 12,125	Can't wait for Roxer to be all "I TOLD YOU SO" when the Cards make the playoffs with like a 6-10 record

10-07-2008, 03:18 PM	#1291
Kris P Lettus Listen to Killer Mike Posts: 56,741	List of Saints injuries so far (atleast one game missed): -RB Deuce McAllister -RB Aarron Stecker -WR Marques Colston -WR David Patten -WR Terrance Copper -WR Adrian Arrington -TE Jeremy Shockey -TE Mark Campbell -LB Scott "Steak" Fujita -SS Roman Harper -DT Sed Ellis -DT Big Fat Hollis Thomas -DT Brian Young -CB Mike McKenzie -CB Randal Gay -CB Usama Young And now CB Tracy Porter may be out for the season.. Also, dumbass Jarhi Evans got popped for steroids so he is missing 4 games as well.. FUCK FUCK FUCK

10-07-2008, 03:24 PM	#1293
Kris P Lettus Listen to Killer Mike Posts: 56,741	Here is Ed Hochuli's contact info, just incase he fucks your team like he did mine.. http://www.jshfirm.com/custom.cfm?na...etail.cfm&id=7 That's the law firm he works for.. ehochuli@jshfirm.com Email.. 2901 N. Central Ave. Suite 800 Phoenix, Arizona 85012 Phone: 602-263-1700 Fax: 602-263-1784 Office addy and phone numbers.. :foc:

10-07-2008, 05:15 PM	#1294
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,764	Shut up Krispy, my team dealt with injuries all of last year, deal with it. Good teams overcome them, as many as they are. Not saying the Rams are a good team, because we are terrible. But yeah.

10-07-2008, 05:36 PM	#1295
UmbrellaCorporation All That Jazz Posts: 3,310	Saints got jewed last night.

10-07-2008, 06:16 PM	#1298
Y2Ant Crows Before Hoes Posts: 24,501	You got raped by a giant purple penis. That's what you got.

10-07-2008, 07:47 PM	#1299
Kris P Lettus Listen to Killer Mike Posts: 56,741	Tracy Porter is out for the season.. GREAT

10-07-2008, 09:52 PM	#1300
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	Man, I fucking hate injury bugs. I remember a few years back the Giants snuck into the playoffs but they were so decimated by injuries at that point they had no chance. Carolina blew them up. I think that the Giants had 1 LB that they began the season with. One of the guys playing LB had been signed that week, and the other guy was like two weeks before that. Antonio Pierce was the only healthy LB.

10-07-2008, 10:52 PM	#1301
Hanso Amore You can't teach that Posts: 19,337	Yeah, the bills had 12 guys on the IR last year, they ended up fielding some REAL scrubs.

10-08-2008, 02:16 PM	#1304
Kris P Lettus Listen to Killer Mike Posts: 56,741	Gramatica placed on IR, Mehlhaff is now the Saints starting kicker..

10-08-2008, 02:30 PM	#1305
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,329	I really wonder what the Giants are gonna do about their kicking situation. Carney has been perfect so far in FGs and XPs...but he's proven to be terrible at kickoffs. Meanwhile, Tynes seems ready to go and IIRC he at least could get some distance on his kickoffs. Factor that in with the fact that David Tyree is eligible to come off the PUP list after next week...cutting one of the kickers would be the optimum way of getting him on the roster. They really don't even need him and so they could IR him for the rest of the year, but if the guy is healthy and ready to play the ethical thing to to do would be to cut him and let another team pick him up. But it would be depressing as hell to see the Super Bowl hero get cut.

10-08-2008, 02:45 PM	#1306
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,764	Josh Brown

10-08-2008, 03:04 PM	#1307
Big Fat Mike Brad Vickers Posts: 5,380	Tynes wasn't exactly the biggest leg in the league before he got hurt.

10-08-2008, 05:06 PM	#1308
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,764	3rd Tynes the charm.

10-08-2008, 05:23 PM	#1309
Kris P Lettus Listen to Killer Mike Posts: 56,741	NY Tynes

10-08-2008, 06:13 PM	#1310
Shadow Shadow Conspircy leader Posts: 18,582	Good on the Saints. Maybe now the league will start reviewing their officals a bit more tightly. Not that all of them are bad mind you. Just that some of them are calling shit that doesn't happen or just not calling stuff that they're supposed to call.

10-08-2008, 06:53 PM	#1311
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	On that play (the facemask in the Saints game) was Hochuli in position to see and call the foul? If not, I don't see how you can blame him.

10-08-2008, 08:47 PM	#1312
Big Fat Mike Brad Vickers Posts: 5,380	The defender was hanging off of the facemask, and you could see Bush's head kind of jerk toward the defender. I don't care where you are on the field, you have to throw a flag on that play. Coming from a Giants fan, btw. I'm preying that Hochuli doesn't work any Giants games this year.

10-08-2008, 08:54 PM	#1313
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	Hochuli really isn't a bad referee. Of course you can't argue with the call in the SD/Denver game but besides that the guy is one of the top crews. Can someone who watched the Saints game say with 100% certainty that Hochuli was in position himself to make the facemask call? It falls on one of the other officials in that case.

10-08-2008, 09:19 PM	#1314
ClockShot TPWW Fire Pro Champ Posts: 34,000	Tony Scheffler and Selvin Young out Sunday against the Jags. Damn, gonna be a tough game with two of our best weapons out. On the flip side, the fucker who shot Darrent Williams back in '07 got indicted.

10-08-2008, 09:24 PM	#1316
Big Fat Mike Brad Vickers Posts: 5,380	We're saying his entire crew is horrible. Granted, I wouldn't be able to make many right calls if I were in his position, but come on, you are a professional. Millions of people depend on you to make them happy in their otherwise dull, meaningless lives. Get it right for our sake, ok Ed?

10-09-2008, 02:36 AM	#1317
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,764	The Broncos are making the Superbowl

10-09-2008, 10:28 AM	#1319
Y2Ant Crows Before Hoes Posts: 24,501	Haha the Saints still lost.