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Old 05-19-2010, 05:08 PM   #1281
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Yeah fair enough, but still. Having a life changing back operation, then a few hours later attending a concert, just seems like a wrong way to go about it imo.
There's nothing to indicate that will happen.
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Old 05-19-2010, 05:09 PM   #1282
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That was funny. "Oh hey Ana Lucia..oh wait, I don't know you"

Obviously Desmond has filled Hurley in 100% on what's going on, and he either shared information or he's become enlightened too.
"Is she coming with us too?"

"No, she isn't ready!"
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I don't know why it would have to do with candidates. There's been no indication of that. Everyone is involved, whether they're living, dead, or a candidate in the original timeline. It's been that way since the first episode of the season.
Because they were chosen to come to the Island, and have played a much bigger part in the story and mythology. You are right, its just if were discussing where they will all be and why, there have to be ideas for who will be there and who won't if that is the case. I'm sure it will involve all of them, but still.
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There's nothing to indicate that will happen.
I didn't say there was, I'm just exploring all/different scenarios or outcomes. I don't know what will happen so I'm just exploring such things.
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Old 05-19-2010, 05:12 PM   #1285
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Since the operation hasn't occured yet, and the concert is that night, I think it's safe to assume it's not going to happen.
Unless their office meeting was earlier in the timeline than the events with Hurley/Desmond/Jake/Sayid.
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Old 05-19-2010, 05:14 PM   #1286
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Because they were chosen to come to the Island, and have played a much bigger part in the story and mythology. You are right, its just if were discussing where they will all be and why, there have to be ideas for who will be there and who won't if that is the case. I'm sure it will involve all of them, but still.
I think it has more to do with all of the "players" from the island, the overall meaning of it.
A big question is whether or not Jacob and MIB have any presence in that timeline.
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I think it has more to do with all of the "players" from the island, the overall meaning of it.
A big question is whether or not Jacob and MIB have any presence in that timeline.
I don't think either do, as neither has been mentioned or seen as of yet, but even if they were, wouldn't they be dead now? Same goes for Richard.
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Yeah guys, you really think he walks into Jacks office and is going to get an OR in a major LA hospital that day?
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Yeah guys, you really think he walks into Jacks office and is going to get an OR in a major LA hospital that day?
No, that is my point. And it's not that I think it will happen or there is any real suggestion to it - I think I never and will never truly come to terms with the fact John Locke didn't turn out the way I had hoped and so I look for ways where he can and still will be back alive and save the Island. Jack is the next best thing. I just miss the original character of John Locke.

So what is it? what is it that we will think will happen when all these people come together? - will that be the 'real' timeline/reality in the end? how will that work? Are they all going to be transported or an actual reality merge occur? my mind is frying itself right now.
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Old 05-19-2010, 05:18 PM   #1290
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I don't think either do, as neither has been mentioned or seen as of yet, but even if they were, wouldn't they be dead now? Same goes for Richard.
Not really. At the beginning of the season we saw The Island at the bottom of the ocean.
It was complete with the Dharma barracks, and the Statue foot.
Things existed normally on that island at one time. Jacob, MIB, and Richard all date back to before those times.
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Old 05-19-2010, 05:21 PM   #1291
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I think it has more to do with all of the "players" from the island, the overall meaning of it.
A big question is whether or not Jacob and MIB have any presence in that timeline.
Hmmmmm, interesting, since The Island itself is present, so why shouldn't they be in some form or another? - Maybe it's a representation of a reality where Jacob/good/light succeeds - fair few people are better off in that reality than prior to the crash. OR one where MIB succeeded in destroying the Island, I don't even know where I'm going with this...

Jacob has and therefore could leave the Island again.
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Old 05-19-2010, 05:22 PM   #1292
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No, that is my point. And it's not that I think it will happen or there is any real suggestion to it - I think I never and will never truly come to terms with the fact John Locke didn't turn out the way I had hoped and so I look for ways where he can and still will be back alive and save the Island. Jack is the next best thing. I just miss the original character of John Locke.

So what is it? what is it that we will think will happen when all these people come together? - will that be the 'real' timeline/reality in the end? how will that work? Are they all going to be transported or an actual reality merge occur? my mind is frying itself right now.
I haven't really bothered speculating on what will happen with the alternate universe, because there's no way of knowing. Short of spoilers, there's very little speculation to be made other than knowing "something will happen" and paying attention to what's been indicated.
I can't really guess beyond that, because I have 0 clue.
I think it's interesting, and even though I have no idea what will happen I have faith in the writing that it will matter.
Lindelof has said that in the end it will be clear why it was done. We'll see, but basically I trust them.
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Old 05-19-2010, 05:24 PM   #1293
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Maybe Jacob will be "the conductor" at the concert
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With regard to the Island at the bottom of the sea, this is all I can come up with:

- It was the result of jughead/pocket being secured.
- MIB 'destroyed it'/got off in another fashion/won and it 'died' and sank
- It didn't need protecting anymore/the life force/entity of the Island 'moved on'.
- Hurley dropped a bomb of his own and didn't stop flushing.
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I just want to know why the went to 1974 through 1977 really
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I would also like to see the original Henry Gale as a doorman or something.
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It was always destined to happen. It was key to the events of both timelines, so I'm assuming it was all part of the plan.
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THe season will end with Jack taking the light, and spreading it out throughout the souls of all the losties in the alt timeline, as they will open a gateway once they all come together and remember. MIB iwll then lose, and Desmond will destory the island, killing all originals. but they are saved through the alt timeline,
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I would also like to see the original Henry Gale as a doorman or something.
MIB should be mopping the floors bitching about how he wants to go home
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I just want to know why the went to 1974 through 1977 really
Well Sawyer, Faraday, Miles and Juliet were stuck there when Locke made it back to the real world and put the wheel back on it's axis. From the time Jack and co had made it back to when Locke approached them, 3 years had gone. Although it's been said time behaves differently on the Island, it appears the same amount of time went by there also.

77' was when they shot back to the present, detonating the bomb. That make sense?
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THe season will end with Jack taking the light, and spreading it out throughout the souls of all the losties in the alt timeline, as they will open a gateway once they all come together and remember. MIB iwll then lose, and Desmond will destory the island, killing all originals. but they are saved through the alt timeline,
That really your theory?

Very intrigued as to what and how MIB meant by when he said he'll get Desmond to destroy the Island. It also vexes me.

I'm not being a 'know it all twat' here, and I know there are lots of things people have put on there that came to be, as well as stuff they haven't since I'm one of them. But one of the predictions I made to my friends who like the show, and on here in the other Lost thread was regarding Desmond. I had this feeling and sense from early season 3 that in the end of the show he would be the 'back up plan', another big 'save the day' kind of character.
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No Im with you Kano. But why did they flash back off the plane and not just stay in present time. Other than to "unite" losties.
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Very intrigued as to what and how MIB meant by when he said he'll get Desmond to destroy the Island. It also vexes me.
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Desmond is resistant to the energy. The same energy that he was thrown into.
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That really your theory?

Very intrigued as to what and how MIB meant by when he said he'll get Desmond to destroy the Island. It also vexes me.

I'm not being a 'know it all twat' here, and I know there are lots of things people have put on there that came to be, as well as stuff they haven't since I'm one of them. But one of the predictions I made to my friends who like the show, and on here in the other Lost thread was regarding Desmond. I had this feeling and sense from early season 3 that in the end of the show he would be the 'back up plan', another big 'save the day' kind of character.
God I hope not, but I really feel like we are getting ready for one timeline to end, most likely the island one, and some kinde of bleed through, and this is my fear,...Jack will protect the light by putting somewhere that MIB cant get it...an alt timeline where he does not exist...
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No Im with you Kano. But why did they flash back off the plane and not just stay in present time. Other than to "unite" losties.
To detonate the bomb, and complete the timeline while creating another one.

I really think they just went there because it was "supposed to happen."
I know that's vague, but that's what destiny and fate is, and that's a big part of the show.
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I tend to think that the alternate timeline will go. I think they have more stake in the original one, but that's just my feeling.
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No Im with you Kano. But why did they flash back off the plane and not just stay in present time. Other than to "unite" losties.
Think Jeritron nailed it, because they were the candidates. I see it like this - MIB and Jacob are the big players in the game, but the board has it's own rules/power/influence/intelligence. The Island is a character, and as we have seen, not only can the losties be subjected to apparitions, tests etc but so can MIB. He was scared when he saw young Jacob. With that in mind, as well as other things like what we don't know - What the Island is? - it could be also seen (the candidates flashing back in time off the plane) as The Island being fair and giving both Jacob/light and MIB/darkness an equal platform where they execute their own plan. It's like a good thing and a bad thing they went back - bad because MIB gained his loop hole - good because they were able to carry out the bomb, serve to have Jacob win, defeat MIB etc.
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By the way, I think Richard is dead. I'm good with that too, since his death was hilarious. He just gets shockingly trucked by MIB.
Richard dying makes sense, since he was a mysterious character who played his biggest role towards the end. Once he had been given backstory, he had very little left to offer the story. With Jacob gone, he no longer has a job and he's mortal.

Last year I actually called him the Boba Fett of Lost in this thread, which makes it funny that he got that kind of death.
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To detonate the bomb, and complete the timeline while creating another one.

I really think they just went there because it was "supposed to happen."
I know that's vague, but that's what destiny and fate is, and that's a big part of the show.
Oh no, you are right and I agree. If they didn't go back, all of the things that would eventually and did happen, wouldn't of.
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By the way, I think Richard is dead. I'm good with that too, since his death was hilarious. He just gets shockingly trucked by MIB.
Richard dying makes sense, since he was a mysterious character who played his biggest role towards the end. Once he had been given backstory, he had very little left to offer the story. With Jacob gone, he no longer has a job and he's mortal.

Last year I actually called him the Boba Fett of Lost in this thread, which makes it funny that he got that kind of death.
I don't want and don't really think he is dead to be honest. But I can see it being the case. It was hilarious, and very quick. If that was his death, a bit of an Eko style thrashin woulda been good.
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Nobody likes to see characters die, but when they've served their part I always think it's the right move. Especially on a show like this with a lot of characters and a moving story.
Not everyone can be given a death scene like that of Juliet, Charlie, and Sun & Jin. I loved Richard but if he's dead I'm fine with that.
He could wake up injured and be found by Miles or something. Who knows.
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I know that they said the outrigger chase wasn't going to be answered, but didn't Widmore mention something about getting to an outrigger to Ben and Miles last night?
Maybe they're sneaking it in there. It's very minor, so whatever, but it would be a good way for Miles to die.
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I don't want and don't really think he is dead to be honest. But I can see it being the case. It was hilarious, and very quick. If that was his death, a bit of an Eko style thrashin woulda been good.
What I loved about it was Ben's reaction. MIB has been amazing this season, and doing stuff like that makes him a total badass.
I always thought The Smoke Monster was an amazing thing, but ever since they've given it a true identity/agenda, he's now one of the greatest villains of alltime.
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Frankly I think alt-Jack won't even make it to the concert, he will be busy operating on Locke. Thus while Jack (with others probably) kills Locke on the island, he may have a "slip" during the operation and kill Locke in the OR too.
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What I loved about it was Ben's reaction. MIB has been amazing this season, and doing stuff like that makes him a total badass.
I always thought The Smoke Monster was an amazing thing, but ever since they've given it a true identity/agenda, he's now one of the greatest villains of alltime.
Again, I agree.

I just hope everyone realises if the real John Locke had a choice and say in the matter he would be 'one of the good guys' and he would've made a hell of a leader/protector. IF.
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Absolutely. I don't think anyone's views on the real John Locke as a character have changed, unless they're confused about MIB taking his form.
As long as they realize real Locke and fake Locke are two different characters, I don't think there'd be any doubt about that
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I have a handful of favorite characters, but I think it's possible that Locke and MIB are my two favorites. In that case, Terry O'Quinn has gotten to portray both of them, which is pretty cool.
The actor who portrays MIB in his true form is really awesome and a big part of the character, though.
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read this whole thread since I last was on last night.

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Yea, Locke is my favorite character on Lost. Terry O'Quinn is fucking amazing. I don't so much as quite like him as MIB though. I think 2nd would be Jack now. It's wierd that I am even saying that because I always hate that lead good guy character, but he's been pretty awesome all throughout.


WWE posted on the other page that he thought the "Kwong" on the wall was Jin now. That's what i thought of last night when Jacob said what he did to Kate. So I guess that had to confirm it was Jin.


I do not think Richard is dead. I think MIB definately crippled him though. He got knocked back into 1977

I loved Miles last night (by the way, he's my # 3). He just amuses me every episode. Maybe cause I see a lot of myself in him. MIB is coming and he's out of there. lol.


I am very excited for this reunion in the alternate reality.
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I love a lot of characters on the show. When I first started, my favorites were Locke, Sawyer, and Sayid.
As I went on, Linus instantly joined them. The newest addition has been MIB, and Richard last season.
But on top of everything, Jack is huge. I always had a love/hate thing with Jack, but I really love his character immensely now. I think his change since the end of season 3 has been a highlight of the show.

I love Sun and Jin, Desmond, Hurley, Miles, and I could probably just keep going. I don't really dislike any characters. I like some more than others but the more I think about it the harder it is for me to not give a mention to almost everybody.
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