MLB 2006 Season Thread - Page 34

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 07-03-2006, 02:03 PM

Nope they are, just went and voted. Went with Liriano and Nomar - no Schilling or Mussina on the 5 man ballot so Liriano has a good shot

**BCWWF** · 07-03-2006, 02:07 PM

Apparently they can because Liriano is on the last player thing. I don't remember them on there in the past. I can't remember off my head who is on the lists this year, I just went on and voted for Liriano and Nomar a couple times without really looking. I think the AL one includes AJ Pierzynski and Justin Verlander, the NL one has Bobby Abreu, I forget who else.

**BCWWF** · 07-03-2006, 02:09 PM

I don't remember this problem in years past, but for some reason it seems like there are so many guys who are worthy of being All Stars but not enough spots. Usually the last-vote in is somebody good but not the AL ERA leader and the NL batting leader.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 07-03-2006, 02:10 PM

AL one had Hafner as well, can't remember anyone else tho

**Evil Vito** · 07-03-2006, 02:43 PM

AL Final Vote: Travis Hafner, Ramon Hernandez, Francisco Liriano, A.J. Pierzynski, Justin Verlander

NL Final Vote: Bobby Abreu, Chris Capuano, Nomar Garciaparra, Billy Wagner, Chris Young

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On the NL side its looking like two of the pitchers will probably get in anyway, since Pedro and Glavine will likely both skip on the game due to injury and short rest, respectively.

I voted for Wagner, not a homer pick but because without him, Brian Fuentes is the only lefty on the staff (assuming Glavine does in fact skip the game and Capuano doesn't make it). He's also a power pitcher, which is needed on the staff.

Nomar deserves it, no doubt, but there's already 3 first basemen on the team and even then I wouldn't play any of the reserves over Pujols.

07-03-2006, 07:26 PM

5 jays made the all-star team

I can't believe Glaus is on it.

**Ruby** · 07-03-2006, 08:30 PM

Glauss' early sucess got him on the team. He's slumping right now, but his numbers still look decent. (apart from the avg.)

07-03-2006, 09:30 PM

his strikeouts drive me crazy, but his home runs and rbi's make up for it

**The Miz** · 07-06-2006, 11:16 AM

LMAO Jeff Weaver traded to St. Louis

**Evil Vito** · 07-06-2006, 11:31 AM

For a guy who's been in Single-A for 5 years, no less

**mrslackalack** · 07-06-2006, 02:01 PM

Rumors are Greg Maddux to the Brew Crew.

**Joey Slugs** · 07-06-2006, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrslackalack

Rumors are Greg Maddux to the Brew Crew.

I love that.

SI.com is reporting that Hoston is interested in trading for Dontrelle Willis

**BCWWF** · 07-06-2006, 03:05 PM

Well who isn't interested in trading FOR Dontrelle Willis? The question is WHY would the Marlins even consider trading a 24-year old pitcher? (Actual age +/- 2 years)

**The Miz** · 07-06-2006, 04:19 PM

For the right deal, Dontrelle should be traded. If they can get 3 top prospects from an organization like LAAA, why not? Willis is good but he's not Santana or anything. He had an amazing season last year, but he has been pretty shit this year and was pretty shit his sophomore year. I'm still not sold on Willis because he hasn't proven that he can dominate for longer than one season.

Miguel Cabrera is the one who should be untouchable. He is one of those guys who comes around once every 10 years or so.

**The Miz** · 07-06-2006, 04:22 PM

Reds get:
RP Eddie Guardado

Mariners get:
SP Travis Chick (AA)

Later fatty

**Adder** · 07-06-2006, 04:59 PM

Ah shucks, I was coming to post about "Evreyday Eddie", seems like Miz beat me to it.

**mrslackalack** · 07-06-2006, 05:03 PM

Come on Reds you can trade for better pitching than that.

**The Miz** · 07-06-2006, 05:05 PM

I dunno, Guardado should be able to get NL hitters out. At the least it moves Coffey into a setup role where he's better

**mrslackalack** · 07-06-2006, 05:07 PM

NL Central will be a race to watch in the 2nd half with Cards, Reds, Brew Crew, and Astros all contending.

**mrslackalack** · 07-06-2006, 05:08 PM

I liked Harold Renyolds idea of having a utilty position player for the all star game.

**Ruby** · 07-06-2006, 07:20 PM

Why?

With all due respect to utility guys, they are utility guys because they aren't really good enough to be an everyday position player. The All-Star game isn't about awarding honours to the best 'not quite good enough' player.
I completely understand the vital role utility players make on their respective teams, but all-stars they are not.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 07-06-2006, 10:16 PM

Ortiz goes deep twice 2niiiiiiite...second one being a Grand Slam.

Red Sox finally beat the fucking D'Rays too, I thought they were seriously going to get swept in a 4 game series with them

**Evil Vito** · 07-06-2006, 10:34 PM

Holy shit, Henry Owens up.....Mike Pelfrey to be up Saturday

Hope Owens isn't just roster filler and actually plays. He's been pretty ridiculous in Double A as their closer. Throws near 100 MPH, 1.08 ERA, 51 K's in just 25 innings

**OssMan** · 07-07-2006, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22

Holy shit, Henry Owens up.....Mike Pelfrey to be up Saturday

Hope Owens isn't just roster filler and actually plays. He's been pretty ridiculous in Double A as their closer. Throws near 100 MPH, 1.08 ERA, 51 K's in just 25 innings

Only reason Owens got called up is because Heath Bell hasn't been down for the maximum of 10 days. So I'd expect to see Bell up and Owens down after Bell reaches 10 days in the minors.

**The Miz** · 07-07-2006, 07:56 AM

HAHA Frank Thomas walk off homer. I swear to god Scot Sheilds is trying to break the record for most losses in relief. 11 last year and 6 already this year

**ct2k** · 07-07-2006, 08:06 AM

Jesus christ, KC have been OVER .500 in their last 20-something games

Also Miz (seeing as you seem to know the minors and shit), what do you know about this Jesus Montero kid who the Yankees have signed? I only just read some blurb on MLB.com about him, talking about him being groomed to take over from Posada in 4 or 5 years

**The Miz** · 07-07-2006, 08:22 AM

According to Baseball America, he is terrible behind the plate and will probably end up at 1B. All I know is he's the top prospect in Latin America, and since he says he's 16 years old that means he's anywhere from 19-26.

**ct2k** · 07-07-2006, 08:47 AM

I didn't believe he could be 16 once i read he's 6ft 3 and 220lbs

**ct2k** · 07-07-2006, 08:57 AM

Speaking of terrible behind the plate, we got the Yanks/Tribe game wednesday night, i knew Victor Martinez was hot with the bat but i didn't realise how much guys were stealing on him, he was MILES off everytime, we even had that double steal at one point!

Dya think the Indians will move him? I mean their defence isn't exactly gold glove standard anyway but yknow, having a solid guy behind the plate wouldn't hurt

**Ruby** · 07-07-2006, 09:02 PM

V. Martinez's offensive upside is far too valuable to move him at this point in his career for a more defensive catcher. Now it may be only me, but he's always looked adequate behind the plate. I don't think his defense is so terrible that you'd toy with moving him. - Unless of course you mean move him in the sense of putting him at 1B or something.

**Ruby** · 07-07-2006, 09:18 PM

I was reading some news and the name Eric Gagne came up. Now the guy's going in potentially for back surgery. What is up with this guy? He's been nothing but virtually on the DL since what - 2003? I can't help but think he's a victim of performance enhancements.
Does anyone else think this?

**DaveWadding** · 07-07-2006, 09:53 PM

they have been trying V. Mart at 1B for a few games this week.

**BCWWF** · 07-08-2006, 02:02 AM

So much for the Twins being hot

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 07-08-2006, 02:15 AM

Jon Lester 6 IP 2 ER
Manny Delcarman 1 IP 0 ER

Future looks pretty bright

RP · 07-08-2006, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruby

I was reading some news and the name Eric Gagne came up. Now the guy's going in potentially for back surgery. What is up with this guy? He's been nothing but virtually on the DL since what - 2003? I can't help but think he's a victim of performance enhancements.
Does anyone else think this?

Not really. Common injuries for any pitcher. Some less sever, some career ending.

**mrslackalack** · 07-08-2006, 11:09 AM

What GS was more impressive last night. D-Trains or Hafners? (D-Train being a pitcher or Hafner for breaking the record for most GS before the All-Star Break)

**The Miz** · 07-08-2006, 11:38 AM

I think Gagné is done. He's a free agent after this year (Dodgers will obviously decline his option) and no team will be crazy enough to give him a multi-year deal. He seems like a guy who isn't going to be healthy again, ever.

Steroids wouldn't surprise me, but then again no player in baseball would surprise me in that department.

**The Miz** · 07-08-2006, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

Not really. Common injuries for any pitcher. Some less sever, some career ending.

Two herniated discs in the lower back requiring surgery is common for any pitcher?

**ct2k** · 07-08-2006, 11:50 AM

lol

I remember seeing Gagne start a couple of times back in his very early days i think around 2000 time, and he was definitely not the size he is today, can't remember what kind of heat he had on his FB, though his stuff was pretty good.

**The Miz** · 07-08-2006, 11:59 AM

I always thought Gagné was more fat than huge, but that's irrelevant. I think most pitchers who take steroids do it to recover more quickly from injuries and to be able to make 34 starts (or 80 appearances, if you're Gagné).

07-03-2006, 02:03 PM	#1321
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Nope they are, just went and voted. Went with Liriano and Nomar - no Schilling or Mussina on the 5 man ballot so Liriano has a good shot Last edited by Jesus Shuttlesworth; 07-03-2006 at 02:05 PM.

07-06-2006, 04:22 PM	#1335
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Reds get: RP Eddie Guardado Mariners get: SP Travis Chick (AA) Later fatty Last edited by The Miz; 07-06-2006 at 04:30 PM.

07-03-2006, 02:07 PM	#1322
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Apparently they can because Liriano is on the last player thing. I don't remember them on there in the past. I can't remember off my head who is on the lists this year, I just went on and voted for Liriano and Nomar a couple times without really looking. I think the AL one includes AJ Pierzynski and Justin Verlander, the NL one has Bobby Abreu, I forget who else.

07-03-2006, 02:09 PM	#1323
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I don't remember this problem in years past, but for some reason it seems like there are so many guys who are worthy of being All Stars but not enough spots. Usually the last-vote in is somebody good but not the AL ERA leader and the NL batting leader.

07-03-2006, 02:10 PM	#1324
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	AL one had Hafner as well, can't remember anyone else tho

07-03-2006, 02:43 PM	#1325
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,377	AL Final Vote: Travis Hafner, Ramon Hernandez, Francisco Liriano, A.J. Pierzynski, Justin Verlander NL Final Vote: Bobby Abreu, Chris Capuano, Nomar Garciaparra, Billy Wagner, Chris Young --- On the NL side its looking like two of the pitchers will probably get in anyway, since Pedro and Glavine will likely both skip on the game due to injury and short rest, respectively. I voted for Wagner, not a homer pick but because without him, Brian Fuentes is the only lefty on the staff (assuming Glavine does in fact skip the game and Capuano doesn't make it). He's also a power pitcher, which is needed on the staff. Nomar deserves it, no doubt, but there's already 3 first basemen on the team and even then I wouldn't play any of the reserves over Pujols.

07-03-2006, 07:26 PM	#1326
Gertner Guest Posts: n/a	5 jays made the all-star team I can't believe Glaus is on it.

07-03-2006, 08:30 PM	#1327
Ruby Member Posts: 172	Glauss' early sucess got him on the team. He's slumping right now, but his numbers still look decent. (apart from the avg.)

07-03-2006, 09:30 PM	#1328
Gertner Guest Posts: n/a	his strikeouts drive me crazy, but his home runs and rbi's make up for it

07-06-2006, 11:16 AM	#1329
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	LMAO Jeff Weaver traded to St. Louis

07-06-2006, 11:31 AM	#1330
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,377	For a guy who's been in Single-A for 5 years, no less

07-06-2006, 02:01 PM	#1331
mrslackalack Mr. Slack A Lack Jack! Posts: 4,390	Rumors are Greg Maddux to the Brew Crew.

07-06-2006, 03:05 PM	#1333
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Well who isn't interested in trading FOR Dontrelle Willis? The question is WHY would the Marlins even consider trading a 24-year old pitcher? (Actual age +/- 2 years)

07-06-2006, 04:19 PM	#1334
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	For the right deal, Dontrelle should be traded. If they can get 3 top prospects from an organization like LAAA, why not? Willis is good but he's not Santana or anything. He had an amazing season last year, but he has been pretty shit this year and was pretty shit his sophomore year. I'm still not sold on Willis because he hasn't proven that he can dominate for longer than one season. Miguel Cabrera is the one who should be untouchable. He is one of those guys who comes around once every 10 years or so.

07-06-2006, 04:59 PM	#1336
Adder A.W.O.L. Posts: 5,862	Ah shucks, I was coming to post about "Evreyday Eddie", seems like Miz beat me to it.

07-06-2006, 05:03 PM	#1337
mrslackalack Mr. Slack A Lack Jack! Posts: 4,390	Come on Reds you can trade for better pitching than that.

07-06-2006, 05:05 PM	#1338
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	I dunno, Guardado should be able to get NL hitters out. At the least it moves Coffey into a setup role where he's better

07-06-2006, 05:07 PM	#1339
mrslackalack Mr. Slack A Lack Jack! Posts: 4,390	NL Central will be a race to watch in the 2nd half with Cards, Reds, Brew Crew, and Astros all contending.

07-06-2006, 05:08 PM	#1340
mrslackalack Mr. Slack A Lack Jack! Posts: 4,390	I liked Harold Renyolds idea of having a utilty position player for the all star game.

07-06-2006, 07:20 PM	#1341
Ruby Member Posts: 172	Why? With all due respect to utility guys, they are utility guys because they aren't really good enough to be an everyday position player. The All-Star game isn't about awarding honours to the best 'not quite good enough' player. I completely understand the vital role utility players make on their respective teams, but all-stars they are not.

07-06-2006, 10:16 PM	#1342
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Ortiz goes deep twice 2niiiiiiite...second one being a Grand Slam. Red Sox finally beat the fucking D'Rays too, I thought they were seriously going to get swept in a 4 game series with them

07-06-2006, 10:34 PM	#1343
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,377	Holy shit, Henry Owens up.....Mike Pelfrey to be up Saturday Hope Owens isn't just roster filler and actually plays. He's been pretty ridiculous in Double A as their closer. Throws near 100 MPH, 1.08 ERA, 51 K's in just 25 innings

07-07-2006, 07:56 AM	#1345
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	HAHA Frank Thomas walk off homer. I swear to god Scot Sheilds is trying to break the record for most losses in relief. 11 last year and 6 already this year

07-07-2006, 08:06 AM	#1346
ct2k Triple A Posts: 48,551	Jesus christ, KC have been OVER .500 in their last 20-something games Also Miz (seeing as you seem to know the minors and shit), what do you know about this Jesus Montero kid who the Yankees have signed? I only just read some blurb on MLB.com about him, talking about him being groomed to take over from Posada in 4 or 5 years

07-07-2006, 08:22 AM	#1347
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	According to Baseball America, he is terrible behind the plate and will probably end up at 1B. All I know is he's the top prospect in Latin America, and since he says he's 16 years old that means he's anywhere from 19-26.

07-07-2006, 08:47 AM	#1348
ct2k Triple A Posts: 48,551	I didn't believe he could be 16 once i read he's 6ft 3 and 220lbs

07-07-2006, 08:57 AM	#1349
ct2k Triple A Posts: 48,551	Speaking of terrible behind the plate, we got the Yanks/Tribe game wednesday night, i knew Victor Martinez was hot with the bat but i didn't realise how much guys were stealing on him, he was MILES off everytime, we even had that double steal at one point! Dya think the Indians will move him? I mean their defence isn't exactly gold glove standard anyway but yknow, having a solid guy behind the plate wouldn't hurt

07-07-2006, 09:02 PM	#1350
Ruby Member Posts: 172	V. Martinez's offensive upside is far too valuable to move him at this point in his career for a more defensive catcher. Now it may be only me, but he's always looked adequate behind the plate. I don't think his defense is so terrible that you'd toy with moving him. - Unless of course you mean move him in the sense of putting him at 1B or something.

07-07-2006, 09:18 PM	#1351
Ruby Member Posts: 172	I was reading some news and the name Eric Gagne came up. Now the guy's going in potentially for back surgery. What is up with this guy? He's been nothing but virtually on the DL since what - 2003? I can't help but think he's a victim of performance enhancements. Does anyone else think this?

07-07-2006, 09:53 PM	#1352
DaveWadding LIMITLESS Posts: 32,276	they have been trying V. Mart at 1B for a few games this week.

07-08-2006, 02:02 AM	#1353
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	So much for the Twins being hot

07-08-2006, 02:15 AM	#1354
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Jon Lester 6 IP 2 ER Manny Delcarman 1 IP 0 ER Future looks pretty bright