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Old 02-18-2011, 11:02 AM   #1
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Palmiero probably won't get in and he's in the 3000/500 club. Not sure how much of that is a result of steroid use, but still.
I would say that it's 100% related to steroid use, as he'd be a mortal first ballot lock without that stench all over him.
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I would say that it's 100% related to steroid use, as he'd be a mortal first ballot lock without that stench all over him.
I meant his stats actually, but I agree that he'd have been a sure-fire first ballot lock.
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God I love Griffey Jr. He's the greatest.
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:25 AM   #4
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I wish griffey could have stayed healthy and been a legit record breaker.
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It's gonna be a shit show in 2013 when Bonds and Clemens are eligible. No matter who gets in that year (Mikey P ) the story won't be about them, it will be about whether or not those two guys made it.

On the flipside, a lot of people think A-Rod is a first ballot lock no matter what despite everybody knowing he juiced. I guess the fact that he fessed up helps his cause, but McGwire fessing up didn't help him at all this year. Of course, A-Rod has a long way to go before he gets in (won't be eligible til like 2023 assuming he retires when his contract is up) by which point most of the "old school" voters who won't allow the roiders in will be gone.

I think it's a bit ridiculous that a lot of these guys are going to miss out on the HOF because of this. Yeah it's unfortunate that so many of them were roiding up but I'm certain that there are plenty of guys in the HOF from decades ago that also cheated in one way or another. Again, the voters are way too old school. That's why there will never be a unanimous first ballot HOFer, because some crotchety old fuck says "Well Ruth wasn't unanimous, so Ken Griffey Jr. shouldn't be either!"
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Hall of Fame voting is so stupid. It took Joe DiMaggio 3 years to get into the Hall of Fame after reaching eligibly.

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Jim Edmonds had to retire. Signed a minor league deal with the Cardinals not too long ago, but doctors wouldn't clear him after the achilles tendon he tore back in september hasn't gotten back to 100%

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Old 02-18-2011, 04:32 PM   #8
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Man, I just looked at Cabreras stats. WOW.

If he could get his shit together, he could be the best hitter in baseball. I knew he was good, but never really looked at the body of work.
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Imagine where Cabrera would be today stats wise if he wasnt a fat drunk.
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100% right.

He has the ability to be even better than Pujols, but it seems he either doesn't take his position as one of the best pure hitters in baseball seriously, or he can't handle whatever problems he has in his personal life.
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If the Cards fall out of contention, there's rumblings that they'll put Carpenter on the market...who the Yankees would make a HUGE play for.

The Yankees have an abundance of catching prospects on top of Montero, so I have no doubt in my mind they'll make a deal at the deadline. I just hope they move someone like Romine and not Jesus...he's supposed to be a young Manny Ramirez, and I don't think the Yanks, even with an extra arm, are WS contenders when stacked against the Sox and Phillies.
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If the Cards fall out of contention, there's rumblings that they'll put Carpenter on the market...who the Yankees would make a HUGE play for.

The Yankees have an abundance of catching prospects on top of Montero, so I have no doubt in my mind they'll make a deal at the deadline. I just hope they move someone like Romine and not Jesus...he's supposed to be a young Manny Ramirez, and I don't think the Yanks, even with an extra arm, are WS contenders when stacked against the Sox and Phillies.
I never said they were. But getting to the playoffs is not the same as being "World Series competitors" . Yankees will make it there by some way or another. I would prefer anyone more then Montero to be traded. By the deadline Montero could be up and that could be the piece that makes the Yankees say no. I love Carpenter but there are only a select few I would trade Montero for.

If the Yankees got King Felix for example there's a possibility that I will give Seattle a Montero package. But, yeah we need Carpenter if it means we will have to give up Sanchez and a few more of our pitchers to hold on to Montero I'd do it.
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Old 02-21-2011, 11:13 AM   #13
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My team to watch out for are the Orioles.

Even if they don't make the Playoffs, they have a real chance of finishing above .500 and playing real well the role of spoilers.
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Old 02-23-2011, 08:43 AM   #14
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Is Yuniesky Betancourt really the Brewers starting shortstop? How is this guy still in the majors, let alone a starting shortstop? Since he debuted in 2005, he has the worst fielding numbers of any shortstop in baseball. Worse than Jeter, Hanley, and Young who are all great hitters. But Bentancourt is a terrible, terrible hitter. Career OBP is .296.
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Wainwright has an elbow injury. He's flying to St. Louis for exams but club officials think he'll need Tommy John.

Wow that was sudden.
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Wainwright has an elbow injury. He's flying to St. Louis for exams but club officials think he'll need Tommy John.

Wow that was sudden.
Well there goes their chances this year. And w/o Pujols next year, I wonder how much their pitching overall can carry the team.
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Old 02-23-2011, 12:45 PM   #17
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And w/o Pujols next year...

That's more than a little bit presumptive, wouldn't you say?
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It's certainly presumptive, but they had a chance to sign him without any opposition and didn't get it done. Do you really think they want to have a bidding match with a team like the Cubs or someone else with a lot of money to kill?
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It's still unlikely to come down to a bidding war. Refusing to negotiate during the season isn't by any stretch a unique tactic, and Pujols' camp continues to claim that the Cardinals will have first crack at him when the negotiating window re-opens.
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I think the Cards can still be competetive this year, but they have basically no margin for error now.

This is also reason #1 why you don't draft until near the end of Spring Training. So many people draft their teams as soon as Yahoo Fantasy Baseball opens up. Bet those people who spent 2nd/3rd round picks on Wainwright are shedding a tear.
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I think the Cards can still be competetive this year, but they have basically no margin for error now.

This is also reason #1 why you don't draft until near the end of Spring Training. So many people draft their teams as soon as Yahoo Fantasy Baseball opens up. Bet those people who spent 2nd/3rd round picks on Wainwright are shedding a tear.
We run a keeper league and a buddy of mine kept him. Now we are discussing whether or not he should be able to keep a player that he had previously from last year or get a compensation pick. I originally said he should get nothing as it is risk versus reward
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We run a keeper league and a buddy of mine kept him. Now we are discussing whether or not he should be able to keep a player that he had previously from last year or get a compensation pick. I originally said he should get nothing as it is risk versus reward
I can understand why he'd want a compensation pick, but at the same time he decided to keep Wainwright so I agree with you. Can't predict the future.
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Adam Wainwright is getting Tommy John surgery. No 2011 season for him.

Scratch him off my fantasy pre-draft rankings.
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People are writing off the Cardinals for '11 after this injury, but I wouldn't be so quick to do so...

...they could sign Kevin Millwood or Jeremy Bonderman, have Pitching Coach Dave Duncan work with them, and they could have a decent year, which could keep the Cardinals in the running for the NL Central Division, which normally isn't that strong of a division, or perhaps the Wild Card.

Or they could always make a deal for someone...who knows? It's just I'm not buying the whole "OMG this is a DISASTER! Forget about 2011 for the Cardinals, they're DONE!"
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...they could sign Kevin Millwood or Jeremy Bonderman, have Pitching Coach Dave Duncan work with them, and they could have a decent year, which could keep the Cardinals in the running for the NL Central Division, which normally isn't that strong of a division, or perhaps the Wild Card.

Or they could always make a deal for someone...who knows? It's just I'm not buying the whole "OMG this is a DISASTER! Forget about 2011 for the Cardinals, they're DONE!"
I think the wild card might go to the NL West. I'm still wondering why the Yankees didn't pick up Bonderman. If I was the Cards I'd be worried about the Brewers. With their offseason it looks like the Brewers are on the path to win.
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People are writing off the Cardinals for '11 after this injury, but I wouldn't be so quick to do so...

...they could sign Kevin Millwood or Jeremy Bonderman, have Pitching Coach Dave Duncan work with them, and they could have a decent year, which could keep the Cardinals in the running for the NL Central Division, which normally isn't that strong of a division, or perhaps the Wild Card.

Or they could always make a deal for someone...who knows? It's just I'm not buying the whole "OMG this is a DISASTER! Forget about 2011 for the Cardinals, they're DONE!"
But the thing is that this year the NL Central is very strong. The Brewers have a great Big 3 starters, Prince, and Braun. The Reds are the reigning division champs; have Votto, Bruce should have a great full season, and Chapman for a whole year in the 'pen. The Cubs have a pretty solid rotation and have added more pop to their lineup compared to this time last year.
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Joe Torre is your new MLB Vice President of Baseball Operations.

And at long last, spring training games get underway. Giants and D-Backs are playing the opener right now, 6 more games saturday.
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Joe Torre is your new MLB Vice President of Baseball Operations.

And at long last, spring training games get underway. Giants and D-Backs are playing the opener right now, 6 more games saturday.
Wow, games already started?!
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Looks like the Mets financial issues got a little more interesting with today's report of the MLB loaning the team $25 million to help cover some costs from last year.

With this report, it looks like Mets ownership will have to sell off a higher percentage of the team than the 20-25% they want. At the same time, they are under investigation as being somewhat involved in the Madoff scheme or reimbursement fraud. As well as lowered stock and team value to a "negative" value for potential investors.

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I think I'm going to get this MLBTV thing this year. I have the applicaiton on my bluray. $99/year for all the games sounds way worth it. anybody else have this?
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I had it last year. Really awesome, especially if you live outside of your team's home market (ex: a Cubs fan in Phoenix or a Yankees fan in N. Carolina). Definitely worth the $120. I'll have to look and see which Blu-Ray players have the app for it.

And I'm getting it on my Droid this year too.
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It's my first year too. But you gotta figure in the Black out restrictions. But, getting a lot of the games from different teams is awesome.
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My PS3 got it, but It's games only. No anaylsis or other shows. They did a free weekend with it. Don't really need it since I got YES by default.
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Ollie "Jekyll & Hyde" Perez strikes again. Looked good to start today, then at the flip of a switch he proceeded to walk the ballpark en route to giving up 3 runs.

Fuck yes. Just a couple more shitty outings and Sandy can send him packing for good.
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Duke Snider passed away. He was 84.
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