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Old 04-27-2004, 01:23 PM   #1361
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If Arsenal sign Gerrard I will stop supporting Liverpool, because they cannot honestly be THAT stupid
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Old 04-27-2004, 01:34 PM   #1362
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If Arsenal sign Gerrard I will stop supporting Liverpool, because they cannot honestly be THAT stupid
Liverpool probably aren't, but I doubt gerrard will want to go too long without CL football.
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Old 04-27-2004, 01:52 PM   #1363
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Gerrard is a Liverpool fan, he's the captain, he wont leave unless things go REALLY down hill.

If in 2 season we are no higher than we are now, then yeah, Gerrard might go.
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Gerrard has nothing to lose really.I mean unless he desperately wants to win the league and champions league then Liverpool are fine for him.

As Sid has said,he supports them,is captain and has no problems getting into the England side,infact at times when he plays the rest of the side make him look even better (no offence,it's just players like Biscan e.t.c)
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Any player has a chance of leaving their current club. I hate it when people say this dude won't leave X club because all it takes is for the business people ruining it to accept an offer and EVERYONE has a price in football.
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Maybe, but it'll take something pretty mammoth for the board to sell him.

In theory.
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Even then if the offer is accepeted then he doesn't have to move or anything.Depends on his choice.
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Any player has a chance of leaving their current club. I hate it when people say this dude won't leave X club because all it takes is for the business people ruining it to accept an offer and EVERYONE has a price in football.
Yeah, I always pictured Beckham being around forever
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Yeah I never thought Becks would leave.

I still picture John Terry being round forever.
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Gerrard has already said that if Houllier goes he'll have to "consider his position at the club" and its fairly likely Houllier's finished at the club.

And Owen still hasnt signed his contract and barcalona are looking at signing him...

He'll probably stay but if Houllier and Owen go and they dont get Champions League again then Arsenal is going to look incredibly tempting.

There are all sorts of rumours about Chelsea in the summer so who knows about Terry.
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And where, pray tell, would we PUT Gerrard?
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In place of Gilberto most likely, since he'll probably be on his way.

The rumours now are that Arsenal and Man U might get into a bidding war over Gerrard, something like £20m each, and 'Pool will sign Joey Barton as a replacement.

I really dunno about that plan
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Gerrard wont leave, it really is that simple
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ALSO, if he did, he certainly wouldn't join the Manc Scum
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I notice how nobody mentioned Cameron's superb goal at the weekend

Good thing I'm here to keep quality discussion going
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Hey, so how about Cameron's superb goal at the weekend?

AND WTF IS GILBERTO DOING HOLDING DOWN EDU
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AND WTF IS GILBERTO DOING HOLDING DOWN EDU

Maybe it's just the fact he's a better all round player
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lol,if Liverpool think Barton can replace Gerrard then they really are screwed up.Maybe in about 4 years or so but if they sell Gerrard then they need someone world class.
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Oh yeah,almost forgot about that.Don't know where they'll fit him in,unless they do what they did with Reyes.
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lol,if Liverpool think Barton can replace Gerrard then they really are screwed up.Maybe in about 4 years or so but if they sell Gerrard then they need someone world class.
Its all paper talk anyway
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Also forgot to mention earlier about Nottm Forest's 'gentleman agreement' to sell Andy Reid to Tottenham for £5 million.
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Maybe it's just the fact he's a better all round player
I'd argue that
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The Arsenal Manager obviosly doesn't just like the Brazil manager
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So *that's* why Edu played the majority of the 2nd half of the season.

You make it sound like they're identical types of players, when they're not. Gilberto is a purely defensive midfielder, and let's face it, Brazil don't have too many of those. Edu is a far better all round player, he's not as good on the defensive side of things but he ain't bad, and he's a far better passer of the ball and attacking midfielder.
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So *that's* why Edu played the majority of the 2nd half of the season.

You make it sound like they're identical types of players, when they're not. Gilberto is a purely defensive midfielder, and let's face it, Brazil don't have too many of those. Edu is a far better all round player, he's not as good on the defensive side of things but he ain't bad, and he's a far better passer of the ball and attacking midfielder.
Yeah Edu played something like 11 consecutive games but thats hardly the second half of the season. Gilberto has played with an injury since around october and will be having surgery in the summer. Hes practically been first choice for 1 and a half seasons just that this injury obviously slowed him down and then when EDU came in he proved himself worthy of staying in the side. I think it's no coincidence that gilberto has been playing after giving his injury some rest
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Walter Samuel is apparently in talks with Chelsea

If they sign him, they've got a quality partner for Terry, maybe move Gallas out to Right Back. He's Left footed as well.
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Edu can do most of the things Gilberto does, and do them nearly as well.

Gilberto can't do some of the things Edu does, and what he can do, some of it isn't as good (i.e. forward runs, finishing)

IMO
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Mummy, what's that?
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Walter Samuel is apparently in talks with Chelsea

If they sign him, they've got a quality partner for Terry, maybe move Gallas out to Right Back. He's Left footed as well.
They could probably go 5-3-2 with Makalele/Parker, Lampard and Duff as the 3, Bridge on the left, Johnson on the right. Would more than compensate for the full-backs' defensive shortcomings and allow them to get forward more, which they both do pretty well. You'd lose some width but Duff is good enough to wreak havoc in a free role
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Defensive midfielder?

Mummy, what's that?
Makalele, Davids, et al
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Not yet

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...rs/3651125.stm

Bolton are growing impatient in the wait to hear whether Brazilian star Rivaldo will move to the club.

Frustrated manager Sam Allardyce will give the 32-year-old midfielder a "few days" to make up his mind.

"I'm disappointed that we haven't got a decision one way or the other, but that also means there's still hope.

"We'll have a cut-off time that will be considered as more than enough time for him to make a decision. That will the be it, we'll move on," Allardyce said.

Allardyce fears Rivaldo's representatives are stalling while they look to secure a better deal elsewhere.

"If there's not a positive move in a few days then we'd have to call time on it," he added.

"It might suggest that our offer is being touted about to see if it could be bettered elsewhere. We don't want to work like that."

The former world and European player of the year accepted Bolton's financial terms in talks with the club before returning to Brazil to consult family members.

The player's UK-based agent Peter Harrison said everything looked positive after the talks and rejected rumours that rival clubs' attempts to hijack the deal were the reason for the delay in its completion.

Harrison said: "I've heard stories about other clubs but as far as I'm concerned that's not true.

"He just wants to discuss it at home. There is no hurry because he cannot play for Bolton this season."

He added: "Things are okay. I am still very, very positive.

"Rivaldo's agent has acted very professionally throughout and I am hopeful there will be some news over the weekend."

The former AC Milan and Barcelona playmaker is a free agent having left Brazilian club Cruzeiro in March after just 11 games.

He would become the latest international star to join Bolton after French World Cup winner Youri Djorkaeff, Nigerian star Jay-Jay Okocha and former Real Madrid man Ivan Campo.

However, he quit the Brazilian club two months later in solidarity with coach Wanderley Luxemburgo, who resigned then withdrew his threat to quit and was then sacked.

Rivaldo had gone back to Brazil having had his contract at AC Milan terminated in November, after a brief spell at the San Siro.

Before that he enjoyed better spells in Spanish football, with Deportivo La Coruna and then Barcelona, who signed him from Deportivo for £16m in 1997.

In 1999 he was named world and European footballer of the year after helping Barca win the Spanish league.
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Looks like Leicester and Wolves will be confirmed as relegated tomorrow.
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Old 04-30-2004, 03:19 PM   #1399
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They could probably go 5-3-2 with Makalele/Parker, Lampard and Duff as the 3, Bridge on the left, Johnson on the right. Would more than compensate for the full-backs' defensive shortcomings and allow them to get forward more, which they both do pretty well. You'd lose some width but Duff is good enough to wreak havoc in a free role
You know, I agree with you there, our full backs can't defend for shit and three at the back sounds like a good option. Shame we have like ten top midfielders, if we limit the space in midfield, then Lampard and Makelele would always have two of them, and Parker, Cole, Veron, Duff, Geremi, Gronkjaer will all have to compete for one space, so I can't see it happening.

And Wengerland, keep the faith. Wolves might aswell give up though.
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Old 04-30-2004, 03:24 PM   #1400
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Yeah 5-3-2 would sound good for Chelsea,especially if Veron and Cole leave.

Wolves are level on points with us Dazz.! Anyway,it relies on Newcastle winning away (at Man City) and that seems to have rarely happened this season.
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