The Official Smackdown vs Raw 2007 Thread

[Disturbed316]

Even though I have the demo, and played it to death, I still haven't done half those things in the videos, the amount of things you can do is huge.

[TerranRich]

And are they re-using commentary? Christ, JR still sounds half asleep in some, like the middle of the first video, where he mentions King's social security number being 1 or something. It's like he's having dinner in a quiet restaurant with Lawler and doesn't want to bother anybody around him.

[Destor]

I would rather him not yell.

[Destor]

That gets old fast.

[Disturbed316]

Video 1 - Entrance

MY NAME IS FINLAY AND I LOVE TO FIGHT Finlay comes out to a chorus of boo's. He walks down to the ring and when he gets in, he puts his schellALLYAAAAHLLLLAAYAAHAAAAIAAAA in the corner.

Video 2 - Fighting time

Mercury is in for a rough night. Finlay puts him down with a shoulder block and locks in a headlock submission. Finlay then takes Joey down with a butterfly lock and then rakes his eyes when he gets back up. He then gives him a back body drop on his arm.

Video 3 - Fighting time II

Finlay levels poor old Joey with a clothesline, and then jumps on his chest. After a leg/ankle lock, he hits the Celtic Cross, which looks fucking brutal. He goes for the cover but only gets a two count. End.

[Disturbed316]

Yeah, I've noticed alot of commentry has been used from the previous game. The only new stuff I've heard is when you do the new moves/use the hotspots.

[Sadistic]

Hey, at least commentary has come a long way since the second smackdown.

"anything goes in the...SINGLES MATCH!"

"MATT HARDY...is the greatest...EUROPEAN CHAMPION!!...we've ever had."

aaahh the memories.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Originally Posted by Sadistic Hey, at least commentary has come a long way since the second smackdown. "anything goes in the...SINGLES MATCH!" "MATT HARDY...is the greatest...EUROPEAN CHAMPION!!...we've ever had." aaahh the memories.

Not enough memory to remember which game it was though. , it was Smackdown 3 (Just Bring It).

[El Fangel]

Originally Posted by Mike the Metal Ed Not enough memory to remember which game it was though. , it was Smackdown 3 (Just Bring It).

yeah I ran out of memory with that game also, I mean 4173 KB what the f***?

[jcmoorehead]

Originally Posted by Mike the Metal Ed Not enough memory to remember which game it was though. , it was Smackdown 3 (Just Bring It).

Damn I remember it, in fact me and my friend were on it a few weeks ago just to see how different it was. When they hit the moves it was just as good.

"THE ROCK with the THE ROCK BOTTOM"

Then again is J.R saying

"If wishes were fishes the world would be an ocean"

really that much better?

[Crippla]

My name is Finlay and I love to fight.(I have nothing to add to the thread, I'm just posting so I can re-subscribe to it.)

[UmbrellaCorporation]

I demand Kennedy NAO!



But the Finlay/Lashley models look amazing.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

the 360 vids are up and they look even better

[XL]

^ As ever!


I know this is a very IGN Boards thing but...

What are you most looking forward to seeing on the countdown?

I've tried to watch as few videos as possible so as not to spoil characters intros/finishers (like I normally do) but I video I will watch will be Orton's.

Will there be a perfect RKO this year? I doubt it but I'm looking forward to finding out!


So who or what are you most looking forward to? Do a Top 3! (and we won't count Legends)

1. RKO
2. Kennedy enterance
3. Umaga/Khali models (could choose between the two)

[Gerard]

Originally Posted by XL ^ As ever! I know this is a very IGN Boards thing but... What are you most looking forward to seeing on the countdown? I've tried to watch as few videos as possible so as not to spoil characters intros/finishers (like I normally do) but I video I will watch will be Orton's. Will there be a perfect RKO this year? I doubt it but I'm looking forward to finding out! So who or what are you most looking forward to? Do a Top 3! (and we won't count Legends) 1. RKO 2. Kennedy enterance 3. Umaga/Khali models (could choose between the two)

1. Hogans entrance, morbid curosity if even with next gen consoles they can get him ripping his shirt off and have it look good, (he did in in mania 19 for the cube but it looked crap).

2. See what options create a wrestler has.

3. looking forqward to seeing khali's move set, all 2 of his attacks.

[KingofOldSchool]

Originally Posted by Gerard 3. looking forqward to seeing khali's move set, all 2 of his attacks.

No, he has 20.

All are chops.

[D Mac]

I'm sure it's not the final commentary. They're probably still recording it.

[D Mac]

Ok there is something wrong with Lashleys 360 enterance vid. All you see are closeups of the crowd.

[D Mac]

So does anyone else have this problem with Lasley's 360 enterance vid?

[ddpBANG]

Originally Posted by Diesel Mac So does anyone else have this problem with Lasley's 360 enterance vid?

Yeah, it's messed up. It almost looks like it's from his POV.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Med...A-4A47F1C6D19D}

Some new videos up there, icluding ten minutes of Royal Rumble Footage.

[D Mac]

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Med...A-4A47F1C6D19D} Some new videos up there, icluding ten minutes of Royal Rumble Footage.

[Kalyx triaD]

I want an RKO set-up animation like Rock and Goldberg had for their finishers years ago. Randy rolling on the ground stalking his prey is freakin awesome. They should add the old one where he gets on one knee with eyes wide open for the hell of it, too.

And what will an opponent hear when your CAW comes out on his end of an online match-up when your CAW may have ripped music?

Will there even be ripped music? It's a damn shame and a call-out to these 'journalist' that we don't know this yet.

[Just John]

forget I said anything

[XL]

That's exactly what I want from my RKO!!

One thats just out of nowhere and the other where he stalks. They do it for Sweet Chin Music and spears so why not.

Having said that I'm not holding out too much hope.

[D Mac]

Yeah I'm taking Orton back to the title.

St. Louis Missouri REPRESENT!

[Skippord]

Orton Sucks

[Crippla]

Originally Posted by Skippord Orton Sucks

Yeah and I suppose Chris Sabin is a better wrestler according to you.

[Skippord]

Originally Posted by CanadianCrippla Yeah and I suppose Chris Sabin is a better wrestler according to you.

I hate Randy Orton

[Disturbed316]

Here are the Game Informer videos that we haven't seen, right click-save target:

Kane vs Booker T
Cat fight
Royal Rumble part 1
Royal Rumble part 2

[Extreme Angle]

1. Caw mode
2. the rko
3. Alternative attires

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

IGN's 4 page preview, page 1

If you've been following our SmackDown Countdown over the last three weeks (and based on our visitor count, who hasn't?), then you already know that we've been spending some substantial time with WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2007 for both the PlayStation 2 and Xbox 360... But other than our daily superstar updates, we haven't been saying much else. Luckily for everyone, THQ has given the go ahead for us to spill the worms so that we can talk a bit more about how things work and how things are different in SVR '07... And there are certainly things to talk about.

Naturally, the most obvious change that longtime players will notice above all else is the change of the control scheme -- it doesn't work the way it used to. Now altered to make use of the analog sticks, the configuration feels a lot less mechanical than it did before -- which is a good thing for an obviously-aging franchise.

The good news is that things are far more responsive than they were when we last told you about the game at E3. Movements via the stick no longer have the delay or outright failure to work that once plagued them, and character collision and fatigue has been tweaked in a much more realistic direction. Despite spending as much time as we have with the title over the last several weeks, however, we have to admit: the movesets do seem more limited under the new control scheme. Because of the sensitivity and completely different move assignments for each character, we seem to be pulling off more chinlocks and snapmares than ever before.

One of the things that takes getting used to (and pay attention to this, because it isn't mentioned in any tutorial) is that picking up your opponent from the mat is no longer handled with a face button. Now, clicking R3 is what grabs their heads and stands them upright -- while holding down and using the L-stick to navigate is how you drag them around. Veterans will certainly find the change odd, but it does seem to work better once you get the hang of it. It's also worth mentioning that the new "unlimited reversal system" works pretty well -- and it's a lot more forgiving with its timing than in past years.

R3 is also the tool to get the user-controlled grappling moves started (click it while grappled to initiate, and then push a direction to determine what type). It's definitely a cool little addition in concept, but we're still not sold on its actual value yet. You see, the prince for using an UC grapple is a large amount of your stamina bar -- and the moves are flashier than they are powerful. Then again, we're still learning the ropes with a number of the game's new mechanics, so it's still too early to pass the grade on it.

Oh, and while we're discussing new mechanics, the "Interactive Fighting Areas" are definitely neat little additions. Throwing someone into a barricade, for example, will send them spilling over it and you can follow them to incur more damage if you like. Once engaged in the IFA, things work just as they do in those prelim videos that have been floating around since the game was announced: players can pull weapons out of the crowd or even signs to help them out. As a face, pulling a sign from a fan can help your momentum out as you cheer along with the crowd; but if you're a heel, you can go ahead and tear that sign up and stomp on it for their own momentum boost.

If you're not worried about momentum and just want to hurt someone, that's cool too. The focus of IFA is doing an extreme amount of damage in a number of different ways anyhow. Trash cans, fire extinguishers, chairs, monitors, speakers, scaffolding, and an assortment of other things that make babies cry can all be used for some easy pain-giving. The company line here is that "if you can see it, you can use it," and so far that's true -- as just about everything we've seen can be used on or against your opponent (with cool special effects to boot).

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

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One area that still runs into problems, though, is the AI. Admittedly, we've played every SmackDown since time began, so maybe we're a little on the advanced side... but even so, the level of opposition that the CPU provides on all but Legend difficulty will be a pushover for series pros (and even then, it isn't the hardest challenge in the world by any means). Obviously, and as with past SmackDowns, the real fun here is playing with other people -- but since we haven't been able to give online head-to-head a go yet, the CPU and "Player #2" are the only folks we've been messing with so far.

The good news is that, even if you're playing alone, there's a great amount of content here. Most of the familiar match types have come back from last year and improved versions of tables, TLC, and the addition of Money in the Bank contests are all good fixes. However, fans of the diva specialty matches from earlier seasons might be disappointed to learn that there isn't such a match this year -- that means no Bran and Panties and no fulfill your fantasy -- or at least, it isn't anywhere that we've seen in the menus or unlockables section.

There are some slight alterations to other match types as well. Buried Alive, for example, has slightly-better collision on the dirt mound (you'll still get the mysterious floating wrestlers, but not as often), and the interactive areas add some spice to old favorites (particularly "Parking Lot Brawl" which now as a fire truck and a sewage tanker).

The "Locker Room" feature was a big hit with fans last year, and THQ has made a number of new changes to it for SVR 2007. The first and most noticeable amendment, of course, is that it's no longer setup with a static and lifeless display. Now the locker room is full 3D -- just like the old season navigation modes used to be in earlier PS2 SmackDowns. There are three rooms to explore in all, and they include an upstairs belt case and "Wall of Fame" area to a side area dedicated to character customization.

Pressing start at any time while in the locker room brings up the customization screen, and allows players to modify almost every area of their abode. Whether a user wants to change how their drink bar looks (which is where they can check their challenges) or alter the type of table they use to house WWE magazines (which provide Superstar bios that include everything from their height and weight to notable championships and more), the choice is entirely theirs.

And by choice, we mean it. There are 14 customizable hub aspects in total: Room Lighting, Wall Pattern, Floor Pattern, Stairs, Amusement Corner, Bar Corner, Shelves, Desk, Large Furniture, Rug, Corner Items, Wall Decorations, Banner, and Collectibles. Of course, each of these categories has further sub-groups within them, and that's where your creativity will really come in.

Speaking of which, the number of options within each customization set is huge. Take lighting for example -- not only can a user choose to change the main lighting scheme, its color, and what sort of fixtures are used to illustrate it, but they can also unlock a number of hidden items that expands their number of choices. This sort of choice bleeds into the other customizable areas as well; you can change your floor from concrete to metal, your walls from plaster to wood, or you can even change what kind of handrail your stairs have. Couches, coffee tables, and even your belt case can be manipulated in just about every way you'd hope.

[Disturbed316]

WHOOO NO BRA & PANTIES/FULFILL YOUR FANTASY MATCHES!

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

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But having a cool locker room means more than just looking cool. Like last year, it serves an actual purpose for your loaded profile. In addition to the Wall of Fame, Challenge Mode, belt case, and WWE magazines highlighted above, for example, players can also access a loading screen manager (32 screens in total), customize CAW attributes, access profile stats, and purchase new bonuses at the WWE shopzone. The shopzone is much easier to navigate this year too, and provides a great one-stop spot to pick up new legends, new moves, and cool championship belt alternatives (like the Smoking Skull and NWO variants). The locker room also grants admission to "The Desk" which is an invaluable tool for a variety of Season Mode reasons.

And what about Season Mode? How does it work and how is it different? Well, it begins rather simply -- after choosing an existing or created superstar from the menu screen, the game shifts to your locker room desktop. Here you can check your messages and get info from your general manager. For the purposes of our play-through, we used Bobby Lashley and began with two messages from Teddy Long. The first was a welcome note and a promise that if we won four matches in a row that we'd get a shot at the title; the second letter was an assignment to play special guest referee in the main event for that evening's program (Benoit vs. Undertaker).

Before heading off into SmackDown, a number of other options are available as well. Checking the calendar, for example, allows users to adjust season mode options (difficulty, subtitles, and email reminders) and clicking on desktop PC brings up WWE.com. Here, we have all the same options that the locker room normally brings with two exceptions: one, we can save our season mode progress from there, and two, we can click on an article that sets up the current storylines (in this case, the Benoit vs. Undertaker match-up). Once out of the locker room, the view shifts to a backstage look at the arena and we're once again given the option of saving, changing our difficulty setting, going back to where we came from, or starting our week.

Starting the week begins the pre-match screen which looks pretty much identical to previous years (rules are shown, you can choose to play, to skip, or whatever). One new option, however, is the new "Multiplayer" feature. By selecting this button, gamers can choose to play whichever character they want (ie: we can choose to play as Undertaker instead of Lashley if we don't feel like refereeing). Even better, a second player can hop in to play as one of the two remaining characters too -- it's a nice touch to say the least.

Personally, we've always felt that SmackDown's "special referee" option was always boring -- so we just went ahead and skipped it. Even so, when we shifted back to our locker room we had a voicemail from Teddy Long (yep, the real guy) telling us that the Undertaker was pissed at us for not calling the match down the middle. Strangely, The Undertaker won his match -- so without the benefit of a cutscene to tell us what happened (we didn't get one when skipping) or understanding why he'd be angry at us for winning, we found ourselves in a quick rivalry with the Deadman (luckily, clicking on WWE.com explains what happened when we checked it out... cool!).

You can bet that our very next match was against "Mr. Old-school" himself and we have to admit, that the commentary as the match began was pretty impressive. Tazz and Cole completely recalled the events of the special referee bout -- they talked about how Undertaker was mad about it, who his opponent was, and what happened to get us to this point; and all this was during his intro as he walked to the ring (that's right, no special videos -- they talked normally just as they do on television). Sadly, there was a long silence after they finished their talk (no small talk), but the commentating duo did pick things up again once our boy Lashley stepped out on the ramp.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

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Following a two-Dominator victory (which isn't reanimated, by the way), Lashley and Undertaker are shown backstage arguing (with full voice-over); just as Taker is about to do something crazy (involving lights and hand-raising), Benoit enters the mix and before you know it, all three guys are yelling at each other. As you might have guessed, the storytelling elements are much better this year and play out more like they do on television. For proof, just take that backstage stare-down into account, and the following in-ring trash talking that results in a Lashley vs. Benoit match the week after, and a cool stipulation match that allows the winner of a three-way dance to pick their main event at No Mercy.

After winning our match at No Mercy, Season Mode's whole purpose became much clearer -- it's how you unlock the game's hidden goodies. In this case, we gained access to the "Diva Package" in the WWE Shopzone and added a No Mercy trophy to our Locker Room. Of course, Season Mode is also a great place to earn money and experience points (which can be used to buy more stuff or upgrade created characters respectively).

On the subject of upgrades, General Manager Mode has received one this year too. A good portion of last year's features and guidelines are back, of course, and there's still a 20-wrestler limit per show, the ability to use existing or user-drafted rosters, a salary cap, the option to set contract lengths, so on and so forth. The interface, however, is all-new. Vince McMahon's greeting, for example, is now voiced over by Vince himself and is delivered via cell-phone instead of the stiff-looking menus of last year.

Setting up events on your calendar is as easy as can be too. Just hop right into "Schedule," select the day for your show on the interactive map, and book your event (up to six matches). Figuring out to book your matches is much easier as well, and this is tanks to a brand new tab system that allows you to navigate seamlessly between titleholders and other superstars. Each wrestler has a much more informative character card too -- morale, titled held, last title match, number of weeks not used, and even specialty match (it's Hell in the Cell for Undertaker, surprised?). This sort of setup is definitely good news for those of us who were into the mode last year, since we're no longer forced to keep hopping back and forth between menus to figure out how to get around.

Another nice touch is that users can now hire writers for their show to supplement their roster, and each one is good for about three storylines each. These storylines can be specific too -- for cruisers, divas, legends, or whatever. Just like in real life, the better your writer is, the better your storylines will be (and no, names like Russo or McMahon aren't on the list). This new story system (which uses a five-star system to show how valuable it is) is an invaluable tool for pushing rivalries forward and affects what kind of match popularity rivals can produce. What's extra cool about this is that up to four wrestlers can be involved in a rivalry at a time and you can actually set cut-off dates as to when that rivalry should end.

If you visit WWE.com on a regular basis, you're probably familiar with the "Power 25" (an ongoing ranking of WWE superstars that are ranked by wins, opponent quality, momentum, and in-ring dominance). That same list has now been incorporated into General Manager Mode as well, and can be used to help figure who your mid-carders and jobbers should be, who deserves a title shot, and who is doing well on a rival show (perhaps a trade is in order?).

Finally, General Manager Mode also includes the addition of Velocity and HEAT. Half the size of a RAW or SmackDown card, these sideshows are used to build up superstar popularity independent of your day-to-day operations of the main programs. Ideally, this is a good place to put your created characters -- guys who start out at the bottom of the ladder every time -- and it won't cost you any rating points to do so. Don't expect to use many other superstars for HEAT and Velocity, though; once a character hits a popularity rating of 70, they're too big to headline it.

As with most wrestling games, there's still plenty to explore in WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2007, but most of it lays in the details. What moves are reanimated, what tweaks have been made here and there, and how is create-a-wrestler looking? Good questions, all of them, but they're meant to be answered on another day (following considerably more play time). Hoo-Rah!

credit - Jeremy Dunham, ps2.ign.com

note: I have no idea why he said that idiot Miz' qoute

[Disturbed316]

Season and GM Mode sound so much better this year, cant wait to get my hands on it.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Neither can I!

[Extreme Angle]

or I!

[TerranRich]

Nor I!