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Old 10-15-2004, 07:44 PM   #1401
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Well Orton's theme isn't totally right yet maybe they will fix it.Super Rko wonder what that is
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Old 10-15-2004, 10:05 PM   #1402
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I think maybe its the RKO where he springs up and stuff like he does nowadays.
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Old 10-16-2004, 01:44 AM   #1403
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Orton's character looks really good at the end of the entrance when he's posing at the turnbuckle.
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Old 10-16-2004, 11:05 AM   #1404
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his theme is the full version and won't be fixed because he game is 100% since Stacy's vids, and the Super RKO is a turnbuckle finisher that has a chance of making them Bleed like the RKO should
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Old 10-16-2004, 11:21 AM   #1405
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Didn't you say the Legends would go up last night?
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Old 10-16-2004, 11:23 AM   #1406
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no, I said monday, look at Duprče's post
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Old 10-16-2004, 11:26 AM   #1407
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Old 10-16-2004, 11:27 AM   #1408
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Old 10-16-2004, 02:02 PM   #1409
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Old 10-16-2004, 03:07 PM   #1410
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his theme is the full version and won't be fixed because he game is 100% since Stacy's vids, and the Super RKO is a turnbuckle finisher that has a chance of making them Bleed like the RKO should
Damn !!! so no spring RKO? or at least the one knee taunt?
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Old 10-16-2004, 06:22 PM   #1411
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Notes on Orton:

- New-ish music starts and Orton comes out after a couple of seconds. Pyro goes off and Orton poses for abit. He then goes down to the ring and climbs the turnbuckle and poses abit more.

- Video starts out 45 seconds in against Triple H. Orton hits a flying forearm before dropping Triple H down with that neckbreaker he used on Benoit at Summerslam Orton then plants H with a DDT, then hits the Overdrive and another neckbreaker.

- Triple H is fighting back with a couple of chops on Orton. Whilst Orton is stunned, H takes off the turnbuckle pad. Orton comes back with a uppercut and a dropkick. Orton takes down H with a firemans carry and then gives him a verticle suplex.

- Orton stomps on H abit and hits an RKO (which is the same as the one in HCTP). Orton taunts for a second whilst H is down. When H gets up, Orton levels him with another RKO and gets the win after 2:51.

Really looking forward to the legends next week, they have picked some decent guys this time.
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Old 10-16-2004, 06:34 PM   #1412
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Unless some of the pre-100% rankings have changed, this is how the 41 non-legends in SvR rank (red is RAW, blue is SmackDown, white is gone):

1) Kurt Angle 94
2) Triple H 94
3) The Undertaker 93
4) Chris Benoit 90
5) Shawn Michaels 89
6) John Cena 89
7) Eddie Guerrero 88
8) Randy Orton 88
9) Kane 87
10) Chris Jericho 87
11) Rob Van Dam 86
12) Ric Flair 86
13) The Big Show 84
14) Batista 84
15) Edge 84
16) John Bradshaw Layfield 84
17) Rey Mysterio 84
18) Rene Dupree 83
19) Shelton Benjamin 83
20) Booker T 83
21) Christian 82
22) Charlie Haas 81
23) Chavo Guerrero 81
24) Matt Hardy 80
25) Rhyno 80
26) Tajiri 79
27) Hardcore Holly 79
28) D-Von Dudley 79
29) Bubba Ray Dudley 79
30) Rico 79
31) A-Train 78
32) Mark Jindrak 78
33) Garrison Cade 77
34) Scotty 2 Hotty 76
35) Chuck Palumbo 75
36) Trish Stratus 61
37) Victoria 60
38) Molly Holly 59
39) Sable 55
40) Torrie Wilson 54
41) Stacy Keibler 54


Y'know, just in case someone was curious but didn't have as much time on their hands as I did...
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Old 10-16-2004, 09:02 PM   #1413
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Only 3 new characters who have not been in previous Smackdown Games ;(

The game still looks good.

but i still can't help but be dissapointed with the Wrestler line up.

Like anybody is actually going to use Scotty, A train or Palumbo .
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Old 10-16-2004, 10:25 PM   #1414
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I'll use Palumbo.

And I'll job Scotty to the other cruisers if I get around to doing a season.

A-Train is practically useless.
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Old 10-16-2004, 10:58 PM   #1415
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And I'll job Scotty to the other cruisers if I get around to doing a season.

A-Train is practically useless.
My thoughts exactly.

I'm particularly gonna use Palumbo once I create Nunzio and Stamboli.
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Old 10-16-2004, 11:07 PM   #1416
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Is London in the game or did I miss something and he's not.
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Old 10-16-2004, 11:09 PM   #1417
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Is London in the game or did I miss something and he's not.
He's not.
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Not In The Game
Akio
Billy Gunn
Billy Kidman
Carlito Caribbean Cool (too new)
Danny Basham
Dawn Marie
Doug Basham
Eugene
Funaki
Gail Kim
Gene Snitsky (too new)
Heidenreich
Jazz
Johnny Stamboli
Kenzo Suzuki
Lita
Luther Reigns
Mark Henry
Maven
Miss Jackie
Nidia
Nunzio
Orlando Jordan
Paul London
Rob Conway
Rodney Mack
Rosey
Shannon Moore
Spike Dudley
Steven Richards
Sylvain Grenier
Test
The Hurricane
Tyson Tomko
Val Venis
William Regal
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Here's my responses to that list

Akio - Die THQ
Billy Gunn - Don't care
Billy Kidman - Don't really care
Carlito Caribbean Cool (too new) - Don't really care
Danny Basham - Don't care
Dawn Marie - Me = Happy
Doug Basham - Don't care
Eugene - Don't care
Funaki - Die THQ
Gail Kim - Don't care
Gene Snitsky (too new) - Don't care
Heidenreich - Don't care
Jazz - Die THQ, the only woman I used
Johnny Stamboli - Don't care
Kenzo Suzuki - Don't care
Lita - Don't care
Luther Reigns - Don't care
Mark Henry - Don't care
Maven - Don't care
Miss Jackie - Don't care
Nidia - Don't care
Nunzio - Die THQ
Orlando Jordan - Don't care
Paul London - OMG DIE AND ROT IN HELL THQ
Rob Conway - Don't care
Rodney Mack - Don't care
Rosey - Don't care
Shannon Moore - Die WWE (Yeah, I blame Vince for this one)
Spike Dudley - Don't care
Steven Richards - Die THQ/WWE
Sylvain Grenier - Don't care
Test - Don't care
The Hurricane - Meh
Tyson Tomko - Don't care
Val Venis - Meh
William Regal - Die THQ
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Not In The Game
Akio
Billy Gunn
Billy Kidman
Carlito Caribbean Cool (too new)
Danny Basham
Dawn Marie
Doug Basham
Eugene
Funaki
Gail Kim
Gene Snitsky (too new)
Heidenreich
Jazz
Johnny Stamboli
Kenzo Suzuki
Lita
Luther Reigns
Mark Henry
Maven
Miss Jackie
Nidia
Nunzio
Orlando Jordan
Paul London
Rob Conway
Rodney Mack
Rosey
Shannon Moore
Spike Dudley
Steven Richards
Sylvain Grenier
Test
The Hurricane
Tyson Tomko
Val Venis
William Regal
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Old 10-16-2004, 11:45 PM   #1422
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My reactions

Akio - I'm a big fan of his, but WWE hasn't done anything with him and with Tajiri on RAW and Sakoda being released, he's just sort of dead in the water. Great matches on Velocity do not a video game appearance make.

Billy Gunn - Honestly haven't given a damn about Billy Gunn since the first New Age Outlaws break-up. Still, I'm surprised that they didn't include him, as Vince seems to love the guy.

Billy Kidman - When the roster was announced, he was half of the WWE Tag Team Champions. He's now in one of the biggest undercard storylines on SmackDown.

Carlito Caribbean Cool - If the game was being held off another two months, he should be in it. However, since he only debuted a week and a half ago, THQ can't be expected to include him.

Danny Basham - I'm not surprised. WWE seems to take some sort of sadistic pride in crapping on the Bashams. Both are very good in-ring talents and have charisma, but they're perpetually jobbing.

Dawn Marie - Honestly, I don't think they should have included Sable, Torrie, and Stacy in a wrestling game, either.

Doug Basham - See Danny.

Eugene - There is no excuse for leaving out one of the most important storylines of the last year. :foc:

Funaki - Such a great talent, but he's also among the perpetually jobbed. I understand why he was left out, but still.

Gail Kim - You cannot have women's wrestling in a video game without Gail Kim.

Gene Snitsky - The only reason I'd want him in this game would be for the voice-over work.

Heidenreich - Only recently returned after a so-so first run. Can totally understand why they left him out.

Hiroko - Obviously, if they leave her husband out, what place does Hiroko have in this game.

Jazz - See Gail Kim. :foc:

Johnny Stamboli - Another perennial jobber with incredible talent. Deserves so much better.

Kenzo Suzuki - A current Tag Team Champion, and was one of the top contenders for the U.S. Title when the roster was announced.

Lita - Lita botched being digitized.

Luther Reigns - My favorite hoss. Sounds like a bad '60s sitcom.

Mark Henry - How many years left?

Maven - A pretty good worker. I can see why he was left off in favor of others, though.

Miss Jackie - Again, I approve of non-wrestlers being left out.

Nidia - Honestly. Three wrestling women?

Nunzio - :foc: That's all I gotta say.

Orlando Jordan - The Chief of Staff? Holly's in, but OJ's out?

Paul London - Was Tag Team Champion when the roster was announced, and yet here he is.

Rob Conway - No La Res? :foc:

Rodney Mack - Yeah, I can definitely see why they left him out.

Rosey - If only his costume wasn't so damned hard to create...

Shannon Moore - Totally shat on by WWE. Should be Cruiserweight Champion right now. Instead, he's a CAW candidate.

Spike Dudley - The Cruiserweight Champion. Nuff said. :foc:

Steven Richards - No Stevie Night Heat? No Steviecorps?

Sylvain Grenier - See Conway. :foc:

Test - Has been on the shelf for a long time. I totally understand his omission.

The Hurricane - Now who'll tell me to stand back?

Tyson Tomko - Don't care. Would be a good tag partner for Christian, but so would a heel Edge. No big loss.

Val Venis - Biggest thing he's done in a while is get the crap kicked out of him by Kane. Totally understand.

William Regal - Well, if they're leaving out Eugene... :foc: :foc: :foc:
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Old 10-17-2004, 12:14 AM   #1423
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Is there some sort of pattern here? I mean, they left out La Res, Kidman and London, AND both sets of tag titles.
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Old 10-17-2004, 12:43 AM   #1424
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Here's my reactions:

Akio: , but understandable
Billy Gunn:
Billy Kidman: , not understandable, he was a Tag Team Champion when the roster was announced
Carlito Caribbean Cool: , but you can't blame THQ as he debuted too late
Danny Basham: , but understandable
Dawn Marie:
Doug Basham: , but understandable
Eugene: :foc:, no reason he shouldn't have been in this
Funaki: , but understandable
Gail Kim: , one of the only women in this game I'd use
Gene Snitsky: , I'd only want him in to here "IT'S NOT-MY-FAULT!", but still, THQ can't be blamed
Heidenreich: , but reasonable
Hiroko: , don't really care
Jazz: , don't really care
Johnny Stamboli: , but reasonable
Kenzo Suzuki: , I dunno, since La Res aren't in I would've liked to have a tag partner for Dupree
Lita: , this means Kane won't have a dumb storyline in season
Luther Reigns: , not understansable, he had a big role and he's a great worker, IMO
Mark Henry:
Maven: , wouldn't have mined him being in (if only for his music), but I can understand why he wasn't in
Miss Jackie: , woulda just liked for her to be in so I could use the Haas/Rico/Jackie entrance
Nidia: , don't really care
Nunzio: , but understandable
Orlando Jordan: , semi-understandable, but still, he was in his Chief of Staff gimmick before the cutoff
Paul London: Fuck you THQ
Rob Conway: , not-understandable, he's a World Tag Champ
Rodney Mack:
Rosey: , but understandable
Shannon Moore: , but understandable
Spike Dudley: , Cruiserweight Champion
Steven Richards: , but understandable
Sylvain Grenier: , not-understandable, World Tag Champ
Test:
The Hurricane: , semi-understandable
Tyson Tomko:
Val Venis: , but understandable
William Regal:
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I agree with you Vito, especially on Eugene, absolutey no reason he should be in
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That's stupid. Loads of wrestlers on that list are in storylines at the moment.
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Akio - Not really overly upset and isnt really a suprise.

Billy Gunn - Could care less. his had his momment under the sun

Billy Kidman - Id have been happy too see him Im actually really enjoying his current Heel run.

Carlito Caribbean Cool (too new) -He better be in Smackdown 7..and still spitting in the face of people who don't want to be cool.

Danny Basham - Arent these guys in Day of reckoning?.. Either way could have been a good addition to the game.

Dawn Marie - Thank fuck

Doug Basham - The same as Danny

Eugene - This is just Unnaceptable :foc: I garrentie THQ is gonna get alot of complaints about leaving this guy out. Yet they add that Fat hairy retard.. How dare you THQ!!

Funaki - To my knowledge his only ever been in one game.. Ah well

Gail Kim - Can Sable and put in Gail..

Gene Snitsky (too new) - No big loss to be honest

Heidenreich - Despite really sucking in the ring im actually liking his character..Could have been an interesting addition.

Jazz - Meh can't say im overlly upset

Johnny Stamboli - God fucking dammit this guy could also have been a cool addition.

Kenzo Suzuki - Another guy id have welcomed into the game. Despite not being very good in R/L he would have been cool in SVR

Lita - Ah well.. We don't get to see her Botch up.

Luther Reigns - :foc: I like this guy... His good in the ring.. He better be in Smackdown 7.

Mark Henry - Thank god

Maven - I wouldnt have been upset to see him in the game but i wont lose sleep that he isnt.

Miss Jackie - Fair enough not much in the ring but i wish they would remove Sable and put Miss Jackie in instead.. We could then have the Haas/Rico/Jackie team ..Plus shes sexier

Nidia - I like her and feel shes have made a good Diva in the game.

Nunzio - Why didnt THQ add him STBS in.. Could have teamed them with Paulmbo to make the Full blooded italians

Orlando Jordan - Id have been happy to see him but i wont lose sleep over him not being in.

Paul London - :foc: :foc: :foc: Leaving London out is unnaceptable.

Rob Conway - Here is where i want..How Dare you THQ!!! How dare you leave out my favourite Tag team.. When you consider these guys have been tag champs since may and are regulars on RAW you have no reason what so ever not to add these guys. I don't want to play as that Fat Hairy Retard i want Rob and Sylvein. I was hoping to see Rob Sylvein and Rene all appear.

Rodney Mack - Don't care

Rosey - If the hurricane was in the game then id be happy to see Rosey in the game too.

Shannon Moore - Not really bothered

Spike Dudley - Once again.. THQ have you actually been paying attention to WWE at all this year? I know the shows arent always that great but come on. The current Cruiserweight champ would have been a great Addition.

Steven Richards - His good but im not overly upset

Sylvain Grenier - Sylvain Grenier fans please join me in a momment of sadness.

Test - If he was in the game then i would have been proper pissed. Good thing they left him out.

The Hurricane - No superheros this year.

Tyson Tomko - I actually wouldnt have minded seeing this guy in the game.

Val Venis - Ah well.. it's not like he was being used anyway

William Regal -


Man THQ has really fucked up this years roster.
Good thing they put Rene in the game.
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I'm thinking of cancelling it now
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That really sucks. Next game they make, or someone makes, they should include everyone on the roster even if they are inactive or injured, most of the ones not included would be great additions

Funny how they include A-Train who hasnt been on TV in like 6 months but they dont add Hurricane, Rosey, Lita, Nidia, Spike Dudley, Rob Conway and Sylvain Grenier who all have been on TV like every week or every other week or so. You know?
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Old 10-17-2004, 12:07 PM   #1430
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WTF

Sure, the roster blows, but hey, look at all the new additions.
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I suppose, but still no La Resistance
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Old 10-17-2004, 01:01 PM   #1432
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Well from what it looks like Thq just added a few wreslers like dupree,molly holly,cade,jindrak,hardcore holly and took out guys like hurricane,mack,test,richards.Seems to me Thq was just lazy in making chracter models for guys like grenier, conway and london,kidman.I mean in HCTP came out grenier and conway were already a big part of the roster and now a year later their still not added .Hopefully Mack's theme music is their as that Mack militant song rocks.Wouldn't mind Kidman's theme being available either.
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Old 10-17-2004, 01:45 PM   #1433
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I remember I said I'd do it in SYM and in HCTP, but for SVR, because of it's lacking roster, I think I really might actually use all 32 CAW slots.

The main reason I never got around to making a ton of CAWs was really because I never felt like spending hours on end using those really in-depth formulas. I'm hoping CAW-making is quicker in this game, or else I might just take the plunge and only use formulas for the faces/figures and make the attire all by myself.
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Old 10-17-2004, 02:21 PM   #1434
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They are leaving out, Carlito Caribbean Cool?


.... That's not, Cool.
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Old 10-17-2004, 02:35 PM   #1435
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He debuted way to late
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Stop being queer about the lack of roster updates. The only people I'm pissed at not being in are La Resistance, the others can go fuck themselves. In their absence, look what we are getting (again)

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BTW, here's that list the guy that LC was going on about:

> New Challenge mode


> Heel/Face meter


> Mini games like stare downs, chop battles and push fights


> More moves than HCTP


> More popular legends


> More licensed theme music


> Superstar voiceovers


> We can see the commentators at ringside


> More commentators to choose from (JR, Jerry Lawler, Michael Cole and Tazz)


> Season mode storylines are improved


> New and interesting ring angle


> More crowd chants


> Charisma is added to the stats


> New weight categories including Diva


> New Chop battles minigame


> New Spank meter


> Improved weight identification system


> Improved CAW


> We can now take a photo of our CAW and use it on the "superstar select screen" instead of every CAW having that blue or pink face!


> The pre-match screen looks better and like the pre-match screen from TV


> 40% more polygons


> Backstage areas now have more interactive objects (e.g. slam your opponents head on the buffet table)!


> The new Parking Lot Brawl (also ahs variations like triple-threat and tornado tag)!


> Royal Rumble meter


> Royal Rumble is more realistic and last longer


> Weapons in Hell in A cell


> Harder to fall off the cell (realism)


> Create a Belt


> Create a PPV


> For the first time ever we can actually create past and existing belts and defend them against a friend


> We have both Earl Hebner and Mike Chioda


> Ability to break up submissions


> New and improved submission meter


> Counter submissions into submissions of your own


> You can now put your feet on the ropes when you are pinning


> Better Wrestler animations


> Less Smackdown icons and they are earned slower, meaning longer matches (realism)


> Managers are now worthwhile and even interact with the crowd


> Of course the roster and entrances are more up to date than DoR's and HCTP's


> CAW parts, moves and more will be available in the Shopzone, everyone likes unlockables, it keeps them playing the game!

> Updated CAW means the ability to create more CAWS on one memory card. Imagine if we could now create 50 CAWS!




> Better lighting and smoke effects, (Watch Kane's entrance video)!




> Sounds more realistic when a wrestler hits the mat!




> Moves are more balanced, for example power moves are slower and easier to reveres that quick moves!




> The view you get when fighting on the entrance ramp is much better!




> The referee does more now than pin and order the bell to be rung at the end of the match. Heels can now argue with him and when you are in submission he will check to see if you are still conscious and much much more!
Plus loads more, so quit your bitching.
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Yeah, I'm a tad bit upset about the roster, but eh, that's what the CAW mode is for. I'm glad they spent the time and effort fixing the more important aspects of the game (ie: gameplay)
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Thanks for that post Disturbed, I'm looking forward to it again now
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This seems odd but did he copy that from my thread? ...Anyway the whole list of people that are'nt in could be like a whole new roster. And if legends dont have music I am going to freak out. And whats the use for two Undertakers that are excactly the same. I mean put in Ministry Undertaker. If they are going to put in two Undertakers then at least make them different verzions.
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i dont care about all the people they left out... but i really wish they had La Res. in it.. they are by far my favorite team... Rob Conway not so much.. but Sylvan is like my favorite on Raw besides Orton...
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