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Old 03-08-2011, 12:28 PM   #1
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aaaaaand 2 days after finally DH'ing in a game, Beltran is shut down with tendinitis in his OTHER knee.

Unreal. He is physically incapable of staying healthy, his knees are shot. I feel bad for the guy because he works hard to get out there but he's turning into the new Moises Alou. Mets are downplaying it of course and saying he'll be back in games within a week - but truthfully I see no way he's in right field on Opening Day.

The thing that worries me more is that these Beltran and Santana injuries make it even more likely that Alderson (who already is against long-term contracts) won't re-sign Reyes. Hell, Wright's a free agent after 2012 and he'll want a huge deal too. Good thing Sandy's got good draft reputation.
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I'm pretty sure Reyes is getting traded halfway through the season if he starts decent.
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The decision to trade Reyes has always been two-fold. If they're still in contention at the deadline they won't move him - but if they have a bad first half they basically have to decide right then and there if they are going to re-sign him.

But yeah, if he gets back to his 2008 production he's going to want Crawford money and I don't see any way the Mets pay that.
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His agent already said he wants Crawford money.
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Whether he's traded or not, I wonder who his suitors are going to be once he hits free agency. There don't seem to be too many teams who could afford to hand out a Crawford-esque contract.

Yanks could but even if they wanted Jeter to play a different position or DH I doubt they'd bump him in favor of the crosstown shortstop. Plus there's a good chance they'll have to pay CC more than he's already getting if he opts out.

Scutaro's deal is up so the Sox would have a vacancy. But three mega-deals (Gonzo, Crawford, Reyes) seems like a lot even by the Sox' standards.

Angels just took on Wells' horrible contract for the next few years so that could price them out.

Rollins' deal expires after this year but the Phils would probably try to get him back. If Reyes went there I'd probably off myself.

Cubs have Starlin Castro who I doubt it going to change positions - plus their goal is going to be to get Albert.

Cards could be interested but only if Albert leaves.
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I don't see the Red Sox going after Reyes. Lowrie has shown signs of brilliance even though his stats and ability to stay healthy don't show much, so a strong showing from him this season should earn him the starting SS job by next year the latest since I doubt Scutaro will be re-signed, and if so, he'll likely be the utility infielder.
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I don't see the Red Sox going after Reyes, not with the possibility of CC Sabathia hitting the free agent market after the season is over.
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The Red Sox would likely not be huge players for Jose Reyes, as the organization is completely and fully sold on (not to mention financially committed to) Jose Iglesias as their center fielder of the future, which likely leaves Lowrie as gone by way of trade and Scutaro elsewhere come a year from today.
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Red Sox won't get him but definitely would be involved just to raise the price should the Yankees go after him.

Red Sox also know its much better for them to go on a mega-spending spree once every few years than to over-spend yearly like the Yankees tend to do.

I think in the end Reyes might take a lower contract which can put him on a lot more teams than being restricted to just the Yankees or Cardinals (if Pujols leaves).
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Went to a Spring Training game today at the awesome new D-Backs/Rockies stadium.

We get up to the ticket counter and all I wanted were the $15 seats and she goes "No sorry, that section is sold out. The section next to it is available for $5 more" so I was like that's cool and she goes "and they're 1st row too".

Place is nice. The lawn section looks really well kept. Almost better than the outfield grass. Food prices were decent and players signed stuff. Good ballpark.
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It felt like I was member of a club when she said that. Like I winked at her and she goes "oh these are for you" and a giant security guard unhinged a velvet rope scetioning off our seats as we went to sit down
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Ive watched 2 Os games on TV vs the Yankees and Red Sox (tonight). Total Combined score of both games Os 1, Yankees and Red Sox 1

Two fucking tie games (asuming this game now which is in the 9th ends tied at 1)..wtf

The B-Team was tonight though the regulars scored 11 earlier in a win.

EDIT: Spoke too soon, Sox are gonna win 2-1..ugh
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Watched a replay of the Indians/Padres game last night. Padres lefty Corey Luebke, who was the org's top pitching prospect heading into 2010, got the nod and went a very good 4.1 innings. He looked sharp, keeping the ball down and the hitters off balance. My only gripe with him is that, though it's down at the knees, he missed his spot quite a few times when the catcher set up outside against a lefty, and it cost him in one at bat as a ball that was down the pike and at the knees was called ball four because the location was so far from where the catcher had set up.

Also, Anthony Rizzo, the first baseman included in the Gonzo to the BoSox deal, got the start at first and hit a booming homerun about 390ft. into the left center (opposite field) of off Carlos Carrasco. Even though its just spring training, I love what I'm seeing from this kid Rizzo. MLB Network had his ETA at 2012. I'm hoping so cause this kid looks like he's going to be star with the bat.
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Also, Anthony Rizzo, the first baseman included in the Gonzo to the BoSox deal, got the start at first and hit a booming homerun about 390ft. into the left center (opposite field) of off Carlos Carrasco. Even though its just spring training, I love what I'm seeing from this kid Rizzo. MLB Network had his ETA at 2012. I'm hoping so cause this kid looks like he's going to be star with the bat.
Yeah, I was watching him on MLB TV. This kid does look to be a star with the bat it seems. I can see why the Pads wanted him.
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Wow, Zack Greinke will most likely begin the season on the DL after breaking one rib and bruising another while playing BASKETBALL. He'll miss 3 starts.

Ouch, Brewers.

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Ouch, Brewers.

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Yea, I read that yesterday. What a bummer. Good thing is they still have Gallardo and Marcum, who are very capable. 3 starts is not bad, so it's not like they have to scrape together a 5th guy for three months waiting on Grienke.
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The Brewers' schedule sets up where they'd planned on using a 4 man rotation for the first 3 or 4 turns anyhow. Essentially, all this changes is the 4 men that they'll be using.
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But can you see why the Yankees didn't sign him?
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Old 03-12-2011, 07:37 AM   #30
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But can you see why the Yankees didn't sign him?
Huh? What do you mean? I never realized that Rizzo ever had a chance to be in the Yankees minor Leagues. Do you remember any chance who the Yankees went after instead? Cause I have no idea. I have never even heard of this Richard Weems we went after instead. I'm just glad we went after Montero. He has some really great batting ability himself.
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Was Rizzo passed up by the Yankees or something?

And it's starting to look a little clearer that San Diego didn't get fleeced in the Gonzo deal. Sure, niether Kelly nor Rizzo will see time till maybe mid 2012, but both are projecting to be high production, all star caliber players. Getting a middle of the order threat and an top of the rotation ace for one guy is a pretty good haul.
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Keith Olbermann taking pics of Vlad before an Os/Pirates ST game. I feel dirty now..eww..why the hell was he there?
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Keith Olbermann taking pics of Vlad before an Os/Pirates ST game. I feel dirty now..eww..why the hell was he there?

It IS kinda weird to see Keith Olbermann at an Orioles batting practice, just taking pics of Vladimir Guerrero...

...it's an odd pairing, to say the least...
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Old 03-12-2011, 05:36 PM   #34
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Red Sox put a bunch of players on potential trade block for future deals.

Red Sox are are only willing to give up either Cameron or McDonald and not both due to needing some experience for OF depth.

Wakefield could be dealt for a younger pitcher (developing or starting quality) but he wants to retire as a Red Sox. Dice-K would need to drop his no-trade clause for any deal while the Red Sox would have to eat most of his contract in any deal done.

Marco Scutaro is also on the list due to the Red Sox finding more long term value in Jed Lowrie and Jose Iglesias.
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Marco Scutaro is also on the list due to the Red Sox finding more long term value in Jed Lowrie and Jose Iglesias.
When reports that the fourth player in the Gonzalez deal stated that the Padres would be getting a MLB level player as the PTBNL, I was praying that Lowrie was the guy.

Solid defense, and a really good stick. His only issue has been staying healthy, but if you look him up on baseball-reference.com, and see what his career numbers average out to over 162 games, you'd see that, offensively, he's be an above average shortstop.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...owrije01.shtml

If he stayed healthy and punched 40 doubles at Petco Park year in and year, he'd be insanely valuable. Alas, we got stuck with Eric Patterson, instead
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Red Sox put a bunch of players on potential trade block for future deals.

Red Sox are are only willing to give up either Cameron or McDonald and not both due to needing some experience for OF depth.

Wakefield could be dealt for a younger pitcher (developing or starting quality) but he wants to retire as a Red Sox. Dice-K would need to drop his no-trade clause for any deal while the Red Sox would have to eat most of his contract in any deal done.

Marco Scutaro is also on the list due to the Red Sox finding more long term value in Jed Lowrie and Jose Iglesias.
Gordon Edes is the source here, and he's not exactly a beacon of reliable information in the first place, never mind the fact that some of the names he's tossed out there have zero trade value.
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Its not soo much about the Red Sox deciding to trade away a bunch of players but if some team gave an offer for any of those players, the Red Sox would show some consideration. They do this every Spring Training but most of the time its just the extra minor league players they put on a list or consider moving.

I agree with Vox Populi that almost all those names have no real value besides maybe a low level prospect and would cost the Red Sox more money to get rid of then to trade (ex. eating up most of Dice-K's contract in any deal).

The main goal for the Red Sox is to still get another veteran catcher due to the void Martinez left and their previous catcher they groomed to be their future falling out of favor with the team (left for Yankees for a year and returned but lost his status).
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"a Red Sox"

I can't deal with that. Just goes against everything I've ever learned.
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who is trading for Tim Wakefield at this point?
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...it's an odd pairing, to say the least...
It's really only odd if you completely overlook his 5 years on Sportscenter and his 4 years at Fox Sports Net.
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