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Old 05-24-2010, 12:10 AM   #1481
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Regardless, I thought it was a fitting end. I'm glad I've watched it all in six months instead of waiting around for six years though. The suspense would have been a bit much for me.
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:11 AM   #1482
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there are alternate endings on the Kimmel show tonight.
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:17 AM   #1485
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Glad Kimmel's doing this since he's a fanboy too. If Leno was doing this, oh man.
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:21 AM   #1486
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My thoughts:

- The Island is exactly what Jacob told Richard it was. Complete with cork holding back hell. It has existed for a long long time. Before anything we have seen. That's where all the other skeletons in the hole of light came from (previous Jacobs trying to see what is down there). That's where some of the statues, and whatnot came from. What we are seeing in the series is just a particular period in the history of The Island, telling the stories of this set of characters (mainly Jack).

- Smoke Monster was released when Jacob committed an act of murderous hate, freeing this monster (possibly a demon from hell?)

- The Island has a way of making people go where they need to be in life. The finale sees it bring what Jacob started to a close as Desmond, imbued with the ability to survive the electromagnetism pulls the cork, which makes Smokey corporeal and able to be killed.

- Jack, meanwhile, has gone on an epic character journey and accepted his role on The Island, sacrificing himself to restore the natural balance.

- Representing this new age of balance is the partnership of Hurley, who is probably the most innocent character on the show, and Ben, the most morally ambiguous.

- The Alt-Verse is pretty self-explanatory as purgatory. Where they all go after they die (whether it be in earlier seasons, or years down the line). Characters who aren't ready to go, like Anna-Lucia, Eko, and Michael, don't go with. Walt wasn't there because he was a child when all this happened, so there are probably more important people in his life to be together with when he goes to heaven.

- And so, the period in Island history ends as it began, with Jack in the bamboo field, closeup on the eye, this time closing.

FINAL VERDICT: I loved it.

Helped to distill my thoughts down into what may be my first lengthy serious TPWW post ever.
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:24 AM   #1487
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Also, the whole Juliet saying "it worked" thing was her confusing purgatory for it working. Yeah.
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Also, the whole Juliet saying "it worked" thing was her confusing purgatory for it working. Yeah.
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:32 AM   #1489
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Also, the whole Juliet saying "it worked" thing was her confusing purgatory for it working. Yeah.
Yup, makes sense since Miles talked to dead Juliet at that point and Desmond (The Constant between real world and Purgatory) said that nothing mattered anymore since he was getting them all together in the alt-world.
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:39 AM   #1491
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Forgot about that Jimmy Kimmel thing. I'll have to download that show tomorrow, or watch it online or something.

Also, I have totally been listening to the Lost Soundtrack on youtube ever since the show ended.
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:40 AM   #1492
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:42 AM   #1493
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Well I am glad Jack/Kate happened finally. Screw all you Kate/Sawyer lovers

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In addition, yeah, Demond I think got a real glimpse behind the workings of the universe and was used by The Island as its physical conduit to get people where they need to go (causing the plane crash, seeing the future deal, and the purgatory stuff). By the end he wasn't really afraid to die because he knew where he (and everybody) was going, which is why he was so confident and laid back after Widmore zapped him.
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:50 AM   #1496
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Figured they weren't real alternate endings. Couple weeks ago the guy that plays MIB said there weren't any
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In addition, yeah, Demond I think got a real glimpse behind the workings of the universe and was used by The Island as its physical conduit to get people where they need to go (causing the plane crash, seeing the future deal, and the purgatory stuff). By the end he wasn't really afraid to die because he knew where he (and everybody) was going, which is why he was so confident and laid back after Widmore zapped him.
I think Eloise Hawking may have been the Desmond of the "previous generation". With the knowledge of the workings of the universe and whatnot. Which is why she was always "in the know" and a kind of guide to Desmond.
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It was a brilliant finale on so many levels. It gave us one final twist that completely defined the alt. universe as such an amazing portion to the story/ending.
I can't wait to go back and watch it again and notice things. I just thought about how awesome it was that when they all went in the church to move on, Ben opted to sit and wait outside and think about what he'd done.

The Jack arch completion was unreal. Perfect. I love that his last act was the ultimate "I need to fix things." I love that it didn't happen right away when he put the stone back either, and it sort of made you wonder if his destiny was going to be fufilled. Then the light came on and the water poured over him.
When I saw him stumbling into the bamboo area it hit me how perfect it was going to be. Having him see the plane getting away and the eye closing were the two perfect final strokes.

MIB's plan ultimately succeeding, but costing him his powers long enough for him to get killed. Genius.

I love that the Island continued on with Hurley and Ben. Hurley wasn't exactly the person I figured would get left in charge of the island, but since they didn't show much after that point, it wasn't really major, so in that respect it was a good choice. Jack always liked and trusted him. Ben belonged on the island, so having him stay and help was another great choice.
Kate and Sawyer leaving was important seeing as they lived. I felt one of them taking over wouldn't have been as good. Sawyer is a bit too hard, and Jack knowing Kate got to go home was a big part of his ending.

And it was awesome how many great lines and shots were incorporated naturally to pay tribute the series as a whole.
Jack and Fake Locke looking down the waterfall as it panned like the hatch at the end of Season 1 was immense. Tons of great lines and sayings from the show got worked in.

Even the enlightenment scenes in the afterlife were a clever device to revisit past moments in the finale, while coming naturally the story and not serving like a clip show/nostalgia fest.

Just generally thought it was great in every way. Better than I'd even expected really. Finales are usually disappointing in some way, and even though I had faith in this one it was a concern.
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It was a brilliant finale on so many levels. It gave us one final twist that completely defined the alt. universe as such an amazing portion to the story/ending.
I can't wait to go back and watch it again and notice things. I just thought about how awesome it was that when they all went in the church to move on, Ben opted to sit and wait outside and think about what he'd done.

The Jack arch completion was unreal. Perfect. I love that his last act was the ultimate "I need to fix things." I love that it didn't happen right away when he put the stone back either, and it sort of made you wonder if his destiny was going to be fufilled. Then the light came on and the water poured over him.
When I saw him stumbling into the bamboo area it hit me how perfect it was going to be. Having him see the plane getting away and the eye closing were the two perfect final strokes.

MIB's plan ultimately succeeding, but costing him his powers long enough for him to get killed. Genius.

I love that the Island continued on with Hurley and Ben. Hurley wasn't exactly the person I figured would get left in charge of the island, but since they didn't show much after that point, it wasn't really major, so in that respect it was a good choice. Jack always liked and trusted him. Ben belonged on the island, so having him stay and help was another great choice.
Kate and Sawyer leaving was important seeing as they lived. I felt one of them taking over wouldn't have been as good. Sawyer is a bit too hard, and Jack knowing Kate got to go home was a big part of his ending.

And it was awesome how many great lines and shots were incorporated naturally to pay tribute the series as a whole.
Jack and Fake Locke looking down the waterfall as it panned like the hatch at the end of Season 1 was immense. Tons of great lines and sayings from the show got worked in.

Even the enlightenment scenes in the afterlife were a clever device to revisit past moments in the finale, while coming naturally the story and not serving like a clip show/nostalgia fest.

Just generally thought it was great in every way. Better than I'd even expected really. Finales are usually disappointing in some way, and even though I had faith in this one it was a concern.
It ended up being perfect for me.
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Going to sleep now, wanted to see everyone's comments and just say that I didnt even care if I knew all the answers or not. What a terriffic ending to a great show.
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Guys, the plane didn't get away. Did you not see the credits? I thought that was the plane that crashed.

Jack putting the cork on would re-powerup the electromagnitism and would crash the plane. No?
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I took it to mean that when you die in the Island timeline, you merge with alternate/heaven timeline. Or something Either way, pretty horrible.

I guess the writers/producers were right when they said the *island* wasn't purgatory/heaven.
pretty horrible? Are you for real?
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I believe I called the last scene of the show to be Jack WAKING UP in the jungle in the season 2 thread after I read The Third Policeman.

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Guys, the plane didn't get away. Did you not see the credits? I thought that was the plane that crashed.

Jack putting the cork on would re-powerup the electromagnitism and would crash the plane. No?
I didn't see anything in the credits. Not sure what you speak of. Last thing I saw was Jack's eye closing.

But perhaps this plane you saw was the remains of the Oceanic flight?
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I love how Jack's story saw it's beginning, middle and end laying on his back in that bamboo thicket.

It's where he arrived on the island, obviously, but also where he landed when he went back, and was a changed man of faith, and finally it was where he died after his purpose was met.
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Guys, the plane didn't get away. Did you not see the credits? I thought that was the plane that crashed.

Jack putting the cork on would re-powerup the electromagnitism and would crash the plane. No?
That was the wreckage of 815. I took as just a powerful image of what the show was really about, wrapping things up and setting in during the credits.

But that probably has legs to be debated by people. Wouldn't be suprised if it was intentionally done for double meaning.
Unless of course you can clearly see it says oceanic on the wreckage. I wasn't looking closely.

Either way, it stood out to me as just showing the original wreckage from the first episode to let the full circle journey set in.
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That was the wreckage of 815. I took as just a powerful image of what the show was really about, wrapping things up and setting in during the credits.

But that probably has legs to be debated by people. Wouldn't be suprised if it was intentionally done for double meaning.
Unless of course you can clearly see it says oceanic on the wreckage. I wasn't looking closely.

Either way, it stood out to me as just showing the original wreckage from the first episode to let the full circle journey set in.
right. really it was one last glimpse of where we spent the last 6 years
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Yeah I didn't really look either. If it is 815 then yeah, they may shown it to show how there are still items to be left there for future generations to find on the island. Like the temple, statue, black rock, and now the plane.
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Hurley mentions doing things differently. I don't think he'd allow for such a downer thing to happen. Even if they did he'd get them right home.
Obviously I'm of the mind that it's not the wreckage though. If it's there to be debated, I know where I stand. Them getting home is part of what made Jack happy in his death. That's how I like it.
But I honestly feel it wasn't supposed to represent that either.

Pretty cool that Ben is Hurley's Richard. It's interesting to ponder what The Island ended up being like for them, and what went on and how and when did Hurley and Linus decide to move on and hand over control.
Also cool that Richard got to live, and decided he wanted to live. Cool to think that he'll get to grow old and die naturally in the modern world which he's never seen.
It's also interesting to think of what kind of lives Kate and Sawyer live back home.

There's plenty of happy but interesting endings there for some characters, that are fun to ponder without being things you really want to actually see.
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Did Desmond get home? Last I remember is him getting safely out of the cave, but did he make it to the plane or is he with Hurley and Ben on the island still?
Was pretty caught up in the rest of the ending and missed that.
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Hurley mentions doing things differently. I don't think he'd allow for such a downer thing to happen. Even if they did he'd get them right home.
Obviously I'm of the mind that it's not the wreckage though. If it's there to be debated, I know where I stand. Them getting home is part of what made Jack happy in his death. That's how I like it.
But I honestly feel it wasn't supposed to represent that either.

Pretty cool that Ben is Hurley's Richard. It's interesting to ponder what The Island ended up being like for them, and what went on and how and when did Hurley and Linus decide to move on and hand over control.
Also cool that Richard got to live, and decided he wanted to live. Cool to think that he'll get to grow old and die naturally in the modern world which he's never seen.
It's also interesting to think of what kind of lives Kate and Sawyer live back home.

There's plenty of happy but interesting endings there for some characters, that are fun to ponder without being things you really want to actually see.
Not to nitpick, but Richard has spent a fair amount of time off the Island in the modern world. I agree with what you are saying though!

I love that Ben became Hurley's Richard
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Did Desmond get home? Last I remember is him getting safely out of the cave, but did he make it to the plane or is he with Hurley and Ben on the island still?
Was pretty caught up in the rest of the ending and missed that.
Hmmm I dont remember him on the plane

EDIT: He was with Ben and Hurley. Im sure he sailed off the Island in his boat
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