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Old 11-04-2004, 01:37 PM   #1521
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mutu got off lightly because he admitted and his club sacked him and didnt fight for him being not guilty. with ferdinand, united fought all the way and in the end made it worse for rio.

now mutu has no income from a club and is kinda tainted for life. i just hope he doesnt slip into oblivion and comes back from his ban next season.
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Old 11-04-2004, 02:12 PM   #1522
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Old 11-04-2004, 02:14 PM   #1523
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Old 11-04-2004, 03:06 PM   #1524
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that's wank. if Ferdinand had admitted taking cocaine, even if he hadn't, he'd have got a shorter ban?

bunch of toss.
To be fair though, if players knew Rio got a shorter ban because he missed the test then it would just encourage them to do it as well when they knew they were screwed. Rio's was about 8 months, Mutu's is like 7 months (Goes till the end of the season so he won't play for another 3 months after that) then it seems fair to me. No place for players to hide.
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Old 11-04-2004, 03:54 PM   #1525
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Old 11-04-2004, 04:29 PM   #1526
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mutu got off lightly because he admitted and his club sacked him and didnt fight for him being not guilty. with ferdinand, united fought all the way and in the end made it worse for rio.

now mutu has no income from a club and is kinda tainted for life. i just hope he doesnt slip into oblivion and comes back from his ban next season.
I said it a week ago and i'll say it again, WHEN UNITED ASKED WHY FERDINAND GOT AN 8 MONTH BAN THEY SAID IT WAS BECAUSE THEY FAILED TO STICK TO ONE STORY, TWO OF THE MAIN PEOPLE TRIED SHAFTING THE BLAME ON EACH OTHER. HAD UNITED STUCK TO ONE STORY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SHORTER.
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Old 11-04-2004, 09:45 PM   #1527
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Middlesbrough 2 - 0 Lazio, I bet none of you predicted that fucker, and anyone who bets against stewart downing playing for England before Germany is a sick and twisted person in need of psychiatric help.

One of Boros best performances so far this year, we took one of the biggest sides in Europe and completely shut them down, fucked them up and put two past them.

Fair point could be made that it was an understrength Lazio, However Middlesbrough have around the same amount of injury problems.

I predict Middlesbrough making it to the last 8 of the Uefa Cup, without a sweat.
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Old 11-04-2004, 10:32 PM   #1528
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TBF as much as I hate 'Boro ( which is a lot ) it's a good result even though Lazio ain't the team they used to be.
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Old 11-05-2004, 06:13 AM   #1529
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Middlesbrough 2 - 0 Lazio, I bet none of you predicted that fucker, and anyone who bets against stewart downing playing for England before Germany is a sick and twisted person in need of psychiatric help.

One of Boros best performances so far this year, we took one of the biggest sides in Europe and completely shut them down, fucked them up and put two past them.

Fair point could be made that it was an understrength Lazio, However Middlesbrough have around the same amount of injury problems.

I predict Middlesbrough making it to the last 8 of the Uefa Cup, without a sweat.
Wait till the Champions League teams come into it next round. Suddenly it won't be so easy.
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Old 11-05-2004, 08:19 AM   #1530
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Right lets look at who's getting knocked out of the Champions League shall we?

Anderlect, Celtic, Shakhtar, Rosenborg, Tel Aviv, Sparta, Fenerbache, Panathinaikos, Deportive, Ajax, Roma, PSG, Porto, Valencia

Only one team there I think we may struggle against, Valencia. However they had a lot of top players leave during the summer, a great manager left during the summer and they havn't yet recovered.

Lazio are favourites to win the Uefa Cup, with the understrength squad they now have. Middlesbrough totally annihilated them last night.
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Deportivo - Sitting bottom of their Champions League group with two points from 4 games. Just Lost to Liverpool, who had a fucking dismal game. Also Deportivo are sitting 10th in La Liga with 13 points from 9 games.

Valencia - Sitting 6th in La Liga with 15 points from 9 games and have played all of the bottom 5. Ranieri has no control over the squad and has had to take Fiore away from the first team due to the disruption he's causing. Corradi hasn't settled in down the right. and their top scorer is out injured for 6 months.

Porto - are obviously not the side they were last year, Mourinho has gone and a lot of the talent has followed. Sat Rock bottom of Group H, arguably the weakest group in the competition. Maniche is the only world class player they have left. being the playmake in the side it's important to them that he plays well, he is not performing and hasn't been all season.

Roma - Another side bottom of their Champions league group. Montella, the top scorer injured his ankle in the Leverkusen game and is reported to be out for 4 - 5 months. Baldini the director of football at Roma has recently said he was on the verge of walkign out then changed his mind. The coach Delnieri is tasting his first time in european football and has obviously made tough work of it.

Celtic - Larsson is gone, Hartson is reportedly on his way out, Thier domestic form is lookign good, but to be fair to them, West Brom would finish in the top three in that league. The only thing I would consider challenging against Celtic is Martin O'Neills tactics, He's come up with some amazing stuff against us in the past when he was boss at Leicester.

I will admit that Boro look the weaker team on paper than all of the above, but if you read into it slightly the table definately starts to turn.
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Old 11-05-2004, 10:10 AM   #1533
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Deportivo - Sitting bottom of their Champions League group with two points from 4 games. Just Lost to Liverpool, who had a fucking dismal game. Also Deportivo are sitting 10th in La Liga with 13 points from 9 games.

Valencia - Sitting 6th in La Liga with 15 points from 9 games and have played all of the bottom 5. Ranieri has no control over the squad and has had to take Fiore away from the first team due to the disruption he's causing. Corradi hasn't settled in down the right. and their top scorer is out injured for 6 months.

Porto - are obviously not the side they were last year, Mourinho has gone and a lot of the talent has followed. Sat Rock bottom of Group H, arguably the weakest group in the competition. Maniche is the only world class player they have left. being the playmake in the side it's important to them that he plays well, he is not performing and hasn't been all season.

Roma - Another side bottom of their Champions league group. Montella, the top scorer injured his ankle in the Leverkusen game and is reported to be out for 4 - 5 months. Baldini the director of football at Roma has recently said he was on the verge of walkign out then changed his mind. The coach Delnieri is tasting his first time in european football and has obviously made tough work of it.

Celtic - Larsson is gone, Hartson is reportedly on his way out, Thier domestic form is lookign good, but to be fair to them, West Brom would finish in the top three in that league. The only thing I would consider challenging against Celtic is Martin O'Neills tactics, He's come up with some amazing stuff against us in the past when he was boss at Leicester.

I will admit that Boro look the weaker team on paper than all of the above, but if you read into it slightly the table definately starts to turn.
The only one of those who might make the UEFA Cup (Ie 3rd in their group) are Valencia.
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Right lets look at who's getting knocked out of the Champions League shall we?

Anderlect, Celtic, Shakhtar, Rosenborg, Tel Aviv, Sparta, Fenerbache, Panathinaikos, Deportive, Ajax, Roma, PSG, Porto, Valencia

Only one team there I think we may struggle against, Valencia. However they had a lot of top players leave during the summer, a great manager left during the summer and they havn't yet recovered.

Lazio are favourites to win the Uefa Cup, with the understrength squad they now have. Middlesbrough totally annihilated them last night.
Celtic, Shakhtar, Sparta, Panathinaikos, Deportivo, Ajax, PSG and Valencia would all give you incredibly hard games. Even Rosenborg held Arsenal to a draw.

You can't look at it and say "The only team we might struggle against is Valencia" because matches in Europe don't work like that. All it takes is for a clever bit of trickery and you're down to 10 men. So called rubbish teams pull off shock results all the time because they can defend like lions and pinch goals at any time.
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Old 11-05-2004, 10:18 AM   #1535
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Also Lazio's injury problems:

INJURED

Angelo Peruzzi (GK)
Matteo Sereni (GK)
Luciano Zauri (DF)
Sebastiano Siviglia (DF)
Emanuele Filippini (MF)
Fabio Liverani (MF)
Dino Baggio (MF)
Simone Inzaghi (ST)
Roberto Muzzi (ST)

Guiliano Giannichedda also got taken off early on due to an injury.

INELIGIBLE

Jose Leonardo Talamonti (DF)
Matias Lequi (DF)
Esteban Gonzalez (MF)
Miguel Angel Mea Vitaly (MF)
Bryan Robert (MF)
Claudio De Sousa (ST)

OTHER

Top scorer Tomasso Rocchi was on the bench
Regular starters like Christian Manfredini and Goran Pandev were on the bench

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To say you anhiliated the favourites is taken a bit out of context.
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Old 11-05-2004, 10:27 AM   #1536
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Lazio are a poor side even at full-stregnth.
It's saying something that their top scorer so far is a regular sub.
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Old 11-05-2004, 10:28 AM   #1537
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Old 11-06-2004, 10:26 AM   #1541
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Yo haven't been around recently.

Funniest thing while I've been away - Andy Gray saying it was "definitely" a penalty when Rooney fell over.

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Guys I know that alot of you won't know this bloke (except Wee Gooner and Downunder) but he's passed away and I'm truly gutted at the news....the person I'm talking about is Johnny Warren, who to me WAS Australian football. I just thought, seeing this is a football thread and all, to post this article in here so as to give you an insight into this incredible man and what he's done trying to improve the state of football in Australia.

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Farewell 'Captain Socceroo'
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Socceroos legend Johnny Warren has lost his brave battle with cancer.

The man affectionately known as 'Captain Socceroo' died at Prince Alfred Hospital at approximately 5.30pm on Saturday evening with his family and friends by his side.

He was admitted to hospital on Wednesday suffering from major breathing problems and other complications associated with the cancer, which was first diagnosed in late 2002.

Funeral arrangements will be announced in the coming days.

The face of Australian soccer for the past 30 years, Johnny captained the Socceroos for eight years (between 1966 and 1972) and led Australia through three World Cup campaigns, including a major involvement in the Socceroos' only appearance at the 1974 World Cup finals.

His involvement with SBS Television began in 1980. He called and co-commentated several major matches including Australia's World Cup campaigns, the network's telecasts of the 1990, 1994, 1998 and 2002 World Cups, the European Championships and Cup Winners Cups and World Youth Championships and was the chief football analyst on SBS Television's The World Game.

In 1998, he was one of 200 sports starts to be inducted into the Australian Hall of Fame.

In 2002, Johnny published his first book Sheila's Wogs and Poofters, which has gone on to become an Australian best seller. He was also included among the Queen's birthday honours list, receiving a Medal of the Order of Australia.

In July of this year, Johnny was honoured for his services to soccer by FIFA president Sepp Blatter and was awarded the Centennial Medal of Honour in a formal ceremony in Sydney.

"I want Australia to embrace this fabulous game," he said on receiving the honour. "It's not 'wog-ball'. This is the game of the world."

Johnny Warren was 61.


I just feel like absolute shit hearing this news and yeah, I'm still stunned. I really, sincerely hope Australia qualifies for the 2006 World Cup for Johnny. A true legend will be missed.
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And he never got to see Australia qualify for another World Cup.

We'll fuck 'em next year for Johnny .
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And he never got to see Australia qualify for another World Cup.

We'll fuck 'em next year for Johnny .
I'll never forget the night Iran knocked us out at the MCG with that 2-2 draw and he was in tears when he was trying to give his post-match analysis on SBS.
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…It should be noted that almost two and a half months of Rio Ferdinand's ban ran while he would not have been playing football (Mid May-Early June, Late June-Mid August), whereas it is effectively 10 months before Mutu can again play competitive football (as he will not be fit for WC qualifiers).
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Old 11-07-2004, 10:43 AM   #1549
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Robben truely is the man, he was BY FAR our best player yesterday, I can't think who else played very well. Can't wait to see more of him.
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lol 4 minutes into the derby and 4 players have had to have treatment for clashing of heads, 2 clearences off city's line and united could have had 2 penalties if a lesser referee than graham poll was in charge.
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Yeah Mike Riley would have been creaming himself by now if he was in charge.
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can someone explain why united payed so much for saha?? ive lost count of how many times hes been offside and that free header from 6 yards just sums up uniteds season - we've completely dominated the game but cant score for shit at the moment.
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Saha started well, scoring 7 in 9 games (although the free kick on his debut shouldnt count its still credited to him)

I SHOULD feel sorry for Saha, he got headbutted, fouled int he area, bundled over in the second half and got fuck all for it. As it happens he plays for united so I couldn't care less.

United deserved at least a 3-0 win, if not 7-0.

Good to see Smith get sent off, he always has been and always will be a fucking prick. Can't deny his football ability though.

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What do you think about Mourinho's comments about the Chelsea fans yesterday Dazz?
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Care to enlighten me as to what he said
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He says that the team deserve more vocal support and that the Chelsea fans were out cheered by the 2 500 Everton fans, or something to that effect.
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He said last month that he wants us to have a song for every player on the pitch, Neil Barnett (our announcer) tried to get us to shout everyones surname when he announced the team line up but that didn't go too well.

In all fairness to the Chelsea fans Mourinho's dugout was between the Everton fans, them, ManYoo and Liverpool have been the only three teams to take the whole allocation of our East Stand Lower, and the dugout is on the half way line, so he had Everton fans singing to the left and right of him. I sit in the Matthew Hadring Upper, Matthew Harding lower is the 'Voice of Stamford Bridge' and we have to encourage the West Stand, Shed End (South Stand) and East Stand to sing, or they don't bother. We should have been more vocal in the match but I think we have been quieter in other games this season, alot of the time we get louder the better we play, and we were aweful yesterday, Robben was the only player who played well. I don't think Mourinho always heard us, he didn't acknowledge us when we sung about him, unlike Kezman who kepts thanking us for chanting for him, Lampard, Terry, and Gudjonhsen ( ) are the ones we normally sing about whatever, but we didn't yesterday and the Everton fans were really loud. I guess I can understand his point.

I liked it when the Everton fans kept chanting "Where were you when you were shit", as it is often a quetion I would love to ask alot of Chelsea fans too. Like any team that does well our prices go up and the real fans get phased out and people with more money come in and watch games without passion.

Which is why I have often said that it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if Roman Abramovich quit, we had to sell loads of players, and then the fake fans would piss off and we'd have a great atmosphere again.
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…It should be noted that almost two and a half months of Rio Ferdinand's ban ran while he would not have been playing football (Mid May-Early June, Late June-Mid August), whereas it is effectively 10 months before Mutu can again play competitive football (as he will not be fit for WC qualifiers).
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Woop I'm THE Eoghan these days but alas it's not me, well not that I remember allthough he's right. In regards to the Mutu thing though see hes been made assistant manager of Romania while he serves the ban
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Chelsea and Madrid target Robinho's mum was kidnapped today. No doubt shit like this will make him want him and his family out of Brazil asap
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