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Old 06-10-2012, 11:12 PM   #121
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I don't ever really comment here, but man they botched this movie BADLY.

There was no real payoff to the movie. The movie left more questions than it answered. Just an ending that teases you into believing they might make a sequel that will deliver what this movie SHOULD HAVE delivered.

Only bright spot was Michael Fassbender's acting.
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I feel bad because I think this movie is getting a lot of flack because it was way overhyped, and not what people expected it to be.

It's not a bad movie, but I feel like it doesn't really know what it wants to be. It sort of vacillates between a regular sci-fi action/horror flick, and something slower and more meditative. In the end it seems like it just sort of walks the line between those, and I wish it would've picked a side.

That said, Fassbender is dynamite, and Theron atones for her awful Snow White overacting with a nicely modulated performance. I'm also intrigued by the implications for the whole Alien universe.

Overall I liked it, but I don't think it's quite as great as some are saying.
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I saw it today.

First things first. I was expecting it to be a lot deeper than it was. I was wondering why all the darwinism/evolution freaks weren't flipping out about this movie. The reason, is because they basically threw the premisE of them being on this planet out the window. But atleast there was god reason. But I suppose if I went to a planet searching for the meaning of life and a bunch of mud snakes started mouth raping my crew, id forget too.

The 3d is questionable, but my vision might be bad or something. Its tough wearing 3d glasses over prescription glasses. There were several times where the backround was rendered completely blurry at the expense of the 3d shot. Several scenes where charachters are standing behind a 3d map and atleast for me, it didn't look that awesome. The character would become distorted and it would take the focus away from the acting.

The Wire fans! Idris ” Stringer Bell ” Elba, was not just a throwaway character. He was outstanding. Id day he was the third or maybe even second best performance depending on what you thought of Fasbenders charachter.


Fasbender was awesome per usual. The charachter had great legs to go places, but I didn't feel like they did enough with the charachter, writing wise. They could have made Fasbenders character sadistically awesome and it looks like it was headed there, but it never made it. It was one of my biggest disappointments.

Charlize Theron got blown off the screen by Noomi Rapace. Rapace was amazing. They didn't make her a badass like Sigorny Weaver. They made her a survivalist. It was perfect. Noomi Rapace was fantastic. More on Theron in a spoiler ...


Speaking of Rapace. She provided what I believe will be one of the great scenes in cinematic history. Anyone who's seen this, knows what I'm taking about. Its worth the price of admission.

Some of the story got shakey towards the end. Not to give anything away, but ...

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the super humans turned on the regular humans and then gets raped by alien.,I really lost track if who the bad guy was and what any of it meant. Tbh, I was really thrown off by the giant bald human/alien dude.


Hey Guy Peirce is in this movie! Is what I said when the opening credits started. It took me about an hoir in a half to figure out who he was.

Now to Charlize

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first I must say, ass looked a little flabby. But that's not the spoil I wanted to talk about. I haven't read much of this thread, but Charlize Theron was a robot right? Stringer foreshadowed it when he was trying to bang her. Then theres that scene where she man handles Fasbender and threatens to turn him off. Which became curious because Fasbender bot was very strong. He lifts and opens that helmet. Then she shows no emotion when her dad dies and the last clue for me was that the bypass machine in her room wasnt made for a woman. I thought that was curious. Maybe all this is obvious and been talked about, I dunno. ”


I give this movie 3 out of 4 stars. It was an excellent summer movie. Noomi Rapace is worth the price alone.
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Oh yah,.the accordion reference flew over my head. Can anyone clue me in?
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Sorry, wrapped that Theron.spoiler up
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Now to Charlize

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first I must say, ass looked a little flabby. But that's not the spoil I wanted to talk about. I haven't read much of this thread, but Charlize Theron was a robot right? Stringer foreshadowed it when he was trying to bang her. Then theres that scene where she man handles Fasbender and threatens to turn him off. Which became curious because Fasbender bot was very strong. He lifts and opens that helmet. Then she shows no emotion when her dad dies and the last clue for me was that the bypass machine in her room wasnt made for a woman. I thought that was curious. Maybe all this is obvious and been talked about, I dunno. ”
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I think it's left deliberately ambiguous. My guess is she was human, and her cold nature was sort of a compare/contrast with the actual android, David. The fact that the med tank was calibrated for a man was because it was actually there for Weyland, just in case.
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The Repace scene was so brilliantly executed, that for about an hour you know its coming. The moment Fasbender dips his finger in that drink, you could see how this was going to happen. Then when it starts to happen, its like 3 minutes of ” oh fuck here it comes, she's about to do this thing. ” and then it happens and it was fucking glorious.
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also was there another dark knight rises trailer before prometheus... i got there a little late
no new dark night trailer.
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I think it's left deliberately ambiguous. My guess is she was human, and her cold nature was sort of a compare/contrast with the actual android, David. The fact that the med tank was calibrated for a man was because it was actually there for Weyland, just in case.
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I thought there were strong vibes that Theron and David were suppose to be brother and sister, but I might have looked to far into that. Then again, she was in the pod for two years and David didn't need to be, becausE he was a droid, BUT THEN AGAIN, they made it obvious that the droid was developing more human emotions and thought of himself as a human. Like the scene where David is putting on the oxygen helmet.
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Oh yah,.the accordion reference flew over my head. Can anyone clue me in?
Crosby, Stills, & Nash reference.

Elba was even singing their song while playing it.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:39 AM   #131
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I do have a question though...
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So is the typical alien that we see at the end and is in all these alien movies made first in this film or is it an existing species and just pops up here.


If it was first made here, was it just because the creature implanted in the humanoid creature? If so then the chain of events would be infected scientist impregnating other scientist... her birthing/aborting a squid alien which face hugs an engineer, which causes a typical xenomorph to birth?

What about the deep throat snakes in the pyramid? did the black slime cause the meal worms to turn into that? then once they jumped down the throat of the scientist, why did it turn him into a miami resident and not impregnate him with an alien?

Actually why didnt he start to disintegrate when he drank the shit like the engineers did?

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About Theron and Fassbender:

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Fassbender calls her "mom" early in the film...just like she calls Weyland "father' later on. I interpreted this as them both being androids, but maybe Theron had a hand in creating Fassbender, just like Fassbender had a hand in creating the eventual Alien. Dunno.


I liked the movie for the most part tho. Better than 90% of sci fi movies. 7.5/10
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About Theron and Fassbender:

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Fassbender calls her "mom" early in the film...just like she calls Weyland "father' later on. I interpreted this as them both being androids, but maybe Theron had a hand in creating Fassbender, just like Fassbender had a hand in creating the eventual Alien. Dunno.


I liked the movie for the most part tho. Better than 90% of sci fi movies. 7.5/10
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So he did say "mom." I swear I heard "mum" too, but thought he might have said ma'am. Does make you think thought.
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Fassbender calls her "mom" early in the film...just like she calls Weyland "father' later on. I interpreted this as them both being androids, but maybe Theron had a hand in creating Fassbender, just like Fassbender had a hand in creating the eventual Alien. Dunno.


I liked the movie for the most part tho. Better than 90% of sci fi movies. 7.5/10
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I'm pretty sure "Mum" is just how British people say "Ma'am" (at least from what I can tell from watching James Bond movies and Doctor Who). I've seen it before, when a woman in a higher ranking position is addressed as "Mum." So I imagine David is just referring to Vickers' status as a high-ranking official in the Company.
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I do have a question though...
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So is the typical alien that we see at the end and is in all these alien movies made first in this film or is it an existing species and just pops up here.


If it was first made here, was it just because the creature implanted in the humanoid creature? If so then the chain of events would be infected scientist impregnating other scientist... her birthing/shorting a squid alien which face hugs an engineer, which causes a typical xenomorph to birth?

What about the deep throat snakes in the pyramid? did the black slime cause the meal worms to turn into that? then once they jumped down the throat of the scientist, why did it turn him into a miami resident and not impregnate him with an alien?

Actually why didnt he start to disintegrate when he drank the shit like the engineers did?

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think the point being made was that humans as we know then where essentially descendants of Aliens
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think the point being made was that humans as we know then where essentially descendants of Aliens
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I'm pretty sure that the Alien shown at the end was the first ever species, and it goes back to the theme of creating a "perfect" creature. David was considered a "perfect" creation, and after rewatching Alien last night, the species created at the end of Prometheus is considered "absolute DNA perfect". So from my stand point it seems like David poisoned that bro, so that he would impregnate Rapace with the tentacle beast, which would thru "divine providence" save her in the end and create the perfect being (the Alien).


I am pretty new to the Alien universe tho so I really dont know wtf I'm talking about
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Dude asks almost every possible question relating to prometheus



This was cut down from 30 mins...get the full video here http://www.criticswatch.com/reviews/...bag-prometheus
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I'm pretty sure that the Alien shown at the end was the first ever species, and it goes back to the theme of creating a "perfect" creature. David was considered a "perfect" creation, and after rewatching Alien last night, the species created at the end of Prometheus is considered "absolute DNA perfect". So from my stand point it seems like David poisoned that bro, so that he would impregnate Rapace with the tentacle beast, which would thru "divine providence" save her in the end and create the perfect being (the Alien).


I am pretty new to the Alien universe tho so I really dont know wtf I'm talking about
I took it a little deeper I guess

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I took it as evolution fast forwarded. The black stuff obviously was some alien organism. It got into the Dna of the doctor, who then fucked a baby into the female, who then produced an alien form. That allen form then impregnated the alien/humanoid and he birthed what we've all known as the traditional alien. I think this theory might be wrong tho. I thought what the movie ultimately was trying to say, was that the original alien that we know and love, was essentially part human.

Now, this could be wrong becausE, when they walk into the room with the mural on the ceiling, I remember seeing something silver plated that looked a lot like the queen alien.
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Lol that video is amazing. I didn't even think about half that stuff.
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Old 06-13-2012, 01:07 PM   #144
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Xenos existed before this film. Remember the first time they enter the chamber with the Giant head? there is a Giant Green Crystal under a mural of a Xeno.
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:38 PM   #145
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Agree with the comment this film creates more questions than it gives answers. i have total faith in Scott and assume there is a sequel on the way.
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The 'Prometheus' sequel is set for a 2014 or 2015 release.
The eagerly anticipated follow-up to the blockbuster is being actively pursued by studio Fox but co-writer Damon Lindelof may not be available to work on it due to scheduling conflicts.
Fox told The Hollywood Reporter: ''[Sir Ridley Scott and Fox] are actively pushing ahead with a follow-up,'' and looking to a 2014 or 2015 release.
Ridley has previously hinted at the name for the sequel which is expected to again feature Michael Fassbender and Noomi Rapace.
When discussing what he envisages in the second movie, he referenced the film's original working title, 'Paradise', suggesting it will be used next time.
He said: ''From the very beginning, I was working from a premise that lent itself to a sequel.
''I really don't want to meet God in the first one. I want to leave it open to Shaw saying, 'I don't want to go back to where I came from. I want to go where they came from.'
''I'd love to explore where [Dr. Shaw] goes next and what does she do when she gets there because if it is paradise, paradise can't be what you think it is.''
The director views paradise in his movie as ''sinister and ominous''.
He added: ''Because [the Engineers] are such aggressive f*****s. I always had it in there that the God-like creature that you will see actually is not so nice, and is certainly not God.''
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May be looking at a rebellion here. This means xenomorphs are still unlikely, but I'm interested.
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The pieces of the puzzle is slowly being put in place.
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Prometheus reminds me of really smart people who pretends to be stupid to get as many friends as possible. I keep feeling they nerfed what it wanted to be just to be that kind of summer tentpole flick.

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I keep wanting to like Prometheus, even though I still feel let down by it. I honestly think it just tried to do too much given the time constraints of a movie. If they had played with maybe just one of the themes it evoked (the ramifications of creating life, the interaction between a creator and his creation, the natural acceptance of death vs. the selfish prolonging of life--hell, just more character interaction with David and Vickers and old man Weyland), it could have been incredible, but there's just no way you can do all of those to their fullest extent in just two hours. So instead, they just kind of took a couple of steps in five different directions before winding up with a par-for-the-course monster movie.

I have a feeling that it would have made for a fucking incredible novel, though.
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Yeah it should be better explored in a longer movie or some alternate medium. Maybe even split it into two or three movies. I can't imagine Prometheus 2 (code named Paradise) being really good. And for what Promethus ended up being, they should have just kept it in line with the Alien movies.
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I love this movie. Within three days of first watching the film I have watched it nearly three times.

Ridley Scott is a master of scifi. If you want to you can find beef with this film yet those things are minor and rarely matter to the story or experience and the questions answered and asked.
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Fuck this movie. The tagline for the DVD is "questions will be answered." As if any questions were answered in that movie at all.
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Old 10-14-2012, 04:10 AM   #155
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Yeah, I knew going in that it was purposely left open.

Doesn't make me angry. Dudes wanted to tell a story, but it ended up being too big for just one movie, and they didn't want to sacrifice their vision by hacking the shit out of it to fit it into one film.

Scott has even said that the sequel wouldn't be a direct tie in to the first Alien, and that it would in fact move even further from the Alien franchise. If they were to make the tie in film, it would be a third movie.
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Besides, I feel like the whole movie is more about delving into our intsinctual curiosity into where we came from, and different peoples motives for wanting to know our origins, rather just straight up answering it.
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I just downloaded this and when I was skipping through it to make sure it work I saw that Engineer guy, hope he does some crazy shit
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