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Old 10-18-2011, 12:00 AM   #121
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Just throwing this out there, but maybe they had Del Rio win the Rumble, have a title match at Wrestlemania and close out Summerslam as champion for reasons other than planning for this tour to Mexico.
But that still doesn't explain this photo
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Old 10-18-2011, 12:10 AM   #122
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Old 10-18-2011, 12:40 AM   #123
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Seriously can't see how Cena isn't winning on Sunday now with that stipulation.

The only possible ending where Del Rio wins is one where he somehow ties Cena to the ground. Probably with some help.
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Old 10-18-2011, 12:44 AM   #124
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Also, still can't believe that Zack Ryder has gone from getting squashed to squashing former World Champions.
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Old 10-18-2011, 12:46 AM   #125
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So you think it'd be more likely for Del Rio to retain against Cena in a regular one on one match?
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Old 10-18-2011, 01:07 AM   #126
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Yeah. He would only have to keep him down for 3. Which is not an easy feat... but definitely way more accomplishable than a 10 count.
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Old 10-18-2011, 01:29 AM   #127
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Seriously can't see how Cena isn't winning on Sunday now with that stipulation.

The only possible ending where Del Rio wins is one where he somehow ties Cena to the ground. Probably with some help.

The entire WWE locker room, Justin Roberts, the timekeeper, the English AND Spanish announce teams, and the cameramen and the refs could Krazy Glue Cena to the mat and he could STILL somehow win
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Old 10-18-2011, 01:33 AM   #128
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Yeah. He would only have to keep him down for 3. Which is not an easy feat... but definitely way more accomplishable than a 10 count.
Even tho Del Rio can use weapons and outside interference, which he can't do in a regular match?
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Old 10-18-2011, 01:37 AM   #129
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I somehow think Miz/Truth will be involved and cost Cena again. Del Rio keeps the title and Cena loses with that stipulation. Gets Del Rio in with the Survivor Series I think they are setting up with Cena/HHH/Punk/Rock/Random Face all on one team vs Del Rio/Miz/Truth/Random Heel 1/ Random Heel 2
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Old 10-18-2011, 01:39 AM   #130
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I really don't think Punk is gonna be on the Cena/Rock team, because CM Punk has been scheduled to feud with Del Rio for a few weeks now
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Old 10-18-2011, 01:40 AM   #131
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Which is why odds are that Del Rio retains at Vengeance
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Old 10-18-2011, 01:49 AM   #132
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But that still doesn't explain this photo
That pic is a little "coom si coom sa" as The Rock would say.

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Old 10-18-2011, 01:57 AM   #133
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Maybe we'll get another "Passion of the Cena" match like he had against The Miz over the summer. He will overcome the odds, even death.
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Old 10-18-2011, 02:00 AM   #134
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It just doesn't make sense to put the WWE Champion in a multi-man tag match at a big PPV like SS.

I may be wrong, but I doubt it.
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Old 10-18-2011, 03:48 AM   #135
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How can HHH have immigration problems?
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Old 10-18-2011, 03:53 AM   #136
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Because they were in Mexico?
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I was comparing it to the traditional meaning of immigration.
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You don't have to literally migrate to another country to have immigration problems
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That would be my guess, but I wouldn't put too much thought into it
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Old 10-18-2011, 05:29 AM   #142
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Whatever it was, it made Otunga take a thoughtful sip out of his travel mug that's for sure.
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That crowd seemed pretty boisterous. And I'm not talking about the piped-in stuff. Legitimately huge pops relative to a regular Raw crowd.
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Whatever it was, it made Otunga take a thoughtful sip out of his travel mug that's for sure.
It was the defining moment for that episode of RAW.
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Also, still can't believe that Zack Ryder has gone from getting squashed to squashing former World Champions.
i love zack ryder, but i wouldnt look to far into this, remember back a lil bit ago when santino won in a squash over sheamus?
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I somehow think Miz/Truth will be involved and cost Cena again. Del Rio keeps the title and Cena loses with that stipulation. Gets Del Rio in with the Survivor Series I think they are setting up with Cena/HHH/Punk/Rock/Random Face all on one team vs Del Rio/Miz/Truth/Random Heel 1/ Random Heel 2
This really makes the most sense. Cena and Rock are confirmed partners at Survivor Series, and it'd play off their stuff earlier in the year if The Miz was in there, and he's been running buddies with R-Truth. I wonder if they'll try and get some other "huge matches" on the card, though.

Triple H and CM Punk could both be in Team Cena, for example, or they could do Triple H vs. CM Punk II (this time...it's not personal) and have their spots filled by guys from SmackDown! like Orton and Sheamus, since brands don't matter anymore.
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:15 AM   #149
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John Cena, The Rock, Air Boom Vs. R-Truth, Miz, Swagger, Dolph.

Maybe they throw in Zack Ryder (Mason Ryan maybe) and another heel.
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Just something to throw out there, though -- why would Cena choose a Last Man Standing Match? Yeah, Cena usually wins them (has he ever lost one?), but wouldn't an "I Quit" Match work better? Cena never gives up, and his opponents never do. It's the same No DQ environment, only Cena's got even more control.
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:25 AM   #152
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John Cena, The Rock, Air Boom Vs. R-Truth, Miz, Swagger, Dolph.

Maybe they throw in Zack Ryder and another heel.
The idea of Zack Ryder interacting with John Cena and The Rock is making me smile. I'm not calling for a Ryder main event push, by the way. Just saying that it'd be harmless fun. Especially if Ryder wins the US Title, and they could throw in Rhodes and have a Champion vs. Champion aspect. If that were the case, you could have Randy Orton join Team Cena, which would make marks jizz and would add to the dynamic of having Ryder around these bad-ass faces. That leaves one guy, and you could have it be Mason Ryan. He seems to have a mini-feud with Ziggler & Swagger going.

The heel team would then be The Miz, R-Truth, Cody Rhodes, Dolph Ziggler & Jack Swagger. This leaves CM Punk open to challenge for the WWE Title, Kane ready to return and face Mark Henry once Big Show is knocked back, and a second Survivor Series Match featuring mostly SmackDown! dudes:

Sheamus, Big Show, Sin Cara & Air Boom vs. Christian, Wade Barrett, Presumably Unmasked Heel Sin Cara, Curt Hawkins & Tyler Reks

And then you could also have Daniel Bryan, with Shawn Michaels in his corner, against Tyson Kidd, with Bret Hart in his. Yeah, that seems very unlikely -- but maybe the WWE would do something like this to promote their new DVD?

Throw in a random Divas Match, and you've got a pretty fucking stacked card.
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:26 AM   #153
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:35 AM   #154
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They always mix in midcard (or lower CM Punk/Mike Knox) feuds into their Survivor Series matches. So, it is perfectly reasonable that Zack would be on the team.
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Just something to throw out there, though -- why would Cena choose a Last Man Standing Match? Yeah, Cena usually wins them (has he ever lost one?), but wouldn't an "I Quit" Match work better? Cena never gives up, and his opponents never do. It's the same No DQ environment, only Cena's got even more control.
He already competed in an "I Quit" match with the Miz this year. Apparently they have those stips cycled to Cena matches.
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Why do people keep ignoring the fact that Punk is supposed to feud with Del Rio so him being on Team Rock/Cena is highly unlikely?
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Sources report that WWE's Vengeance pay-per-view will be the event where John Cena finally breaks away from the WWE Title picture. Cena will be facing Alberto Del Rio in a Last Man Standing Match for Del Rio's WWE Title.

This would indicate that Del Rio is retaining the title. After Vengeance, Cena will begin the build for Survivor Series and further his feud with The Rock. Del Rio is scheduled to go into a feud with CM Punk.

Source: PWInsider
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What will they do with the loose alliance of Christian, Rhodes, Ziggler, Swagger and Otunga, seems like a Survivor Series team right there.
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Why do people keep ignoring the fact that Punk is supposed to feud with Del Rio so him being on Team Rock/Cena is highly unlikely?
Because it's also likely that Del Rio will be included in the match against Cena and The Rock, and thus any problems Punk has with Del Rio could lead to, or come out of, that match?

That being said, I'm starting to think the babyface team will look like John Cena, The Rock, Triple H, Mason Ryan & Zack Ryder, with CM Punk challenging Alberto Del Rio elsewhere on the card. And I could see them letting Punk win there.
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On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely is it that Del Rio will be included in the match against Cena/Rock?
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